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Njung'e
#21 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 2:38:48 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!!

it is very relevant and far from useless


I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict.
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washiku
#22 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 4:27:24 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!!

it is very relevant and far from useless


I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict.


I would understand if the question was about How the law protects or says about devolution. Knowing governors by name, age and size can be such a piece of work. Those governors have really eaten a lot, even fitting in someone's memory will lead to explosion. Eg, if you knew just this particular one, are you left with any memory space for any other?
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Angelica _ann
#23 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 4:30:29 PM
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washiku wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!!

it is very relevant and far from useless


I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict.


I would understand if the question was about How the law protects or says about devolution. Knowing governors by name, age and size can be such a piece of work. Those governors have really eaten a lot, even fitting in someone's memory will lead to explosion. Eg, if you knew just this particular one, are you left with any memory space for any other?






Thanks bro!!! smile
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mkenyan
#24 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 5:10:07 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!!

it is very relevant and far from useless


I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict.

indeed.

and to add on that, i would have to quote one facebook post by an ochiel dudley who has addressed it so well i have nothing useful to add:
Quote:
Administratively: The Chief Justice of the Republic of Kenya heads the third arm of government. We now have two levels of government. The judiciary is not devolved but under Article 6 must decentralize its services to all the counties. Mutunga has tripled the number of High Court stations, working with the governors directly. It's not acceptable for the Chief Justice to fail to know who the people that head the devolved level of government are. Do you think Ginsburg or Thomas can claim not to know who the governors of Arizona or California are? Or Chief Mahmood Mohammed of Nigeria the governors of Anambra or Kano states? Civics 101.

This is the jurisprudential value: The theory of a holistic interpretation of the Constitution streamlined in the CCK Case requires interpretation to take into account non-jural phenomena including Kenya's political, social, economic and historical context. Political context includes ''who is the current governor of X county'' As a judge, moreso Chief Justice, you must lift your eyes off the law books and become aware of the sociopolitical environment. The Governor he was asked about has been in the public eye. He has led a very vocal conflict with Meru County over county boundaries and has been summoned repeatedly to the Senate over public finance management issues and has been accused of issuing bouncing cheques. How will the judge resolve devolution issues when he does not what these issues are or who people involved in these issues are?
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kaka2za
#25 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 5:59:01 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Siringi wrote:
Judge not conversant with Devolution does not know Governors... this kind of interview will make Baba Happy smile

High Court Judge Msagha Mbogholi, who was appearing before the panel as the second candidate, could not identify Tharaka Nithi, Mandera and West Pokot County Governors.

Justice Mbogholi had been asked to assure the panel that he would protect Devolution which is enshrined in the new Constitution if he was appointed to replace former CJ Willy Mutunga
read on


Justice Mbogholi stands no chance.The monkey on his back is the dismissal of the Kibaki petition in 1998 on very flimsy grounds.


@kaka2za, considering its Moi ruling the country now, wouldn't that ruling be a big Plus for him ?

100 years of KANU rule Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Hata Kibaki ni Kanu tu.

so its governor Mutua who will break this kanu thing in 2022


KANU may be in power but JSC is still dominated by Judicial activists! Grand Mullah knows what he did over there!
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Wrong forever on the throne
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Swenani
#26 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:08:00 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
washiku wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!!

it is very relevant and far from useless


I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict.


I would understand if the question was about How the law protects or says about devolution. Knowing governors by name, age and size can be such a piece of work. Those governors have really eaten a lot, even fitting in someone's memory will lead to explosion. Eg, if you knew just this particular one, are you left with any memory space for any other?






Thanks bro!!! smile


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Anti_Burglar
#27 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:39:47 AM
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mkenyan wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!!

it is very relevant and far from useless


I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict.

indeed.

and to add on that, i would have to quote one facebook post by an ochiel dudley who has addressed it so well i have nothing useful to add:
Quote:
Administratively: The Chief Justice of the Republic of Kenya heads the third arm of government. We now have two levels of government. The judiciary is not devolved but under Article 6 must decentralize its services to all the counties. Mutunga has tripled the number of High Court stations, working with the governors directly. It's not acceptable for the Chief Justice to fail to know who the people that head the devolved level of government are. Do you think Ginsburg or Thomas can claim not to know who the governors of Arizona or California are? Or Chief Mahmood Mohammed of Nigeria the governors of Anambra or Kano states? Civics 101.

This is the jurisprudential value: The theory of a holistic interpretation of the Constitution streamlined in the CCK Case requires interpretation to take into account non-jural phenomena including Kenya's political, social, economic and historical context. Political context includes ''who is the current governor of X county'' As a judge, moreso Chief Justice, you must lift your eyes off the law books and become aware of the sociopolitical environment. The Governor he was asked about has been in the public eye. He has led a very vocal conflict with Meru County over county boundaries and has been summoned repeatedly to the Senate over public finance management issues and has been accused of issuing bouncing cheques. How will the judge resolve devolution issues when he does not what these issues are or who people involved in these issues are?


Oh my! Kweli its awkward to be uninformed about things that are always in your face that demand no special effort on your part to know them.
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Siringi
#28 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 12:43:30 PM
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..yesterday

Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession



the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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alma1
#29 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 12:51:43 PM
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Siringi wrote:
..yesterday

Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession



the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism


If the fellow doesn't want to work on Saturday, they can always find others.

What is shocking was the following.

Asked by Githu Muigai what would you do if someone is sick in hospital and signs a statement that no one is contesting that they want to be put out of life support.

Answer

All life is sacred!!!!!!!!

This fellow should not be in the judiciary let alone the chief justice office.

Kweli these so called judges are so shallow? They don't know their governors, and are willing to bring their personal problems into a court room.

I can't wait to hear what the others have to say
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Siringi
#30 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2016 1:06:08 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Siringi wrote:
..yesterday

Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession



the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism


If the fellow doesn't want to work on Saturday, they can always find others.

What is shocking was the following.

Asked by Githu Muigai what would you do if someone is sick in hospital and signs a statement that no one is contesting that they want to be put out of life support.

Answer

All life is sacred!!!!!!!!

This fellow should not be in the judiciary let alone the chief justice office.

Kweli these so called judges are so shallow? They don't know their governors, and are willing to bring their personal problems into a court room.

I can't wait to hear what the others have to say


@alma1 but the Katiba say so no?
na Bibilia pia
His answers have been lauded as very intelligent
see
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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