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How I'm surviving the brutal NSE bear run
the deal
#1 Posted : Sunday, August 28, 2016 9:00:39 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
The bear run at the NSE was first a slow grind until last week when that Bill brought a slaughter. I actively started investing at the NSE whle still readng at UoN...thats from 2007 until now. Because I was so deep in it...I used to run a popular blog which earned me regular spots in local & international publications It all came to a stand still when I graduated from UoN and went back home... Because of a busy schedule...I had to reduce my holdings at the NSE. Like I started from the bottom at the NSE....when I came home I started a few ventures here in Namibia...I started a metering & car tracking company using my investments from the NSE The two ventures have exploded & I'm very happy But im back smiling...im loving this bear run.... If you have time & love being your boss...start a business venture out of the NSE especially in down turns...it really helps! Watching your portifolio getting wacked can lead to stupid decisions Stay true...integrity is number 1...say no to corruption.
hisah
#2 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 3:07:12 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
@deal welcome back. I see the ulcers central has caught you attention smile Now waiting for @mwekezaji, stocksmaster and ProverB to come out of hibernation we start having proper discussions as the heavy bear mauling creates pandemonium.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Impunity
#3 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 3:20:48 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
hisah wrote:
@deal welcome back. I see the ulcers central has caught you attention smile Now waiting for @mwekezaji, stocksmaster and ProverB to come out of hibernation we start having proper discussions as the heavy bear mauling creates pandemonium.
When do you guys think we will see the "real" end of this downtrend in banks? Will it be in Q4 or well after the 2017 pols? Or will it next week?
Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
streetwise
#4 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 3:46:15 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/23/2011
Posts: 1,740
Location: Nairobi
This one is not yet over. Fist it was the bear run. The came warning by atleat 8 listed companies Then came Brexit. Then came interest caps Yet to come elections 2017. Any way don't worry the shares will be in the range of cents you may accumulate and you wish
hisah
#5 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 4:06:58 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
Impunity wrote:
hisah wrote:
@deal welcome back. I see the ulcers central has caught you attention smile Now waiting for @mwekezaji, stocksmaster and ProverB to come out of hibernation we start having proper discussions as the heavy bear mauling creates pandemonium.
When do you guys think we will see the "real" end of this downtrend in banks? Will it be in Q4 or well after the 2017 pols? Or will it next week?
The volume activity (financials) in coming weeks will decide the direction.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Mangs
#6 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 4:12:16 PM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 9/12/2014
Posts: 31
Impunity wrote:
hisah wrote:
@deal welcome back. I see the ulcers central has caught you attention smile Now waiting for @mwekezaji, stocksmaster and ProverB to come out of hibernation we start having proper discussions as the heavy bear mauling creates pandemonium.
When do you guys think we will see the "real" end of this downtrend in banks? Will it be in Q4 or well after the 2017 pols? Or will it next week?
The problem with most of the so-called "Investors" in this forum is that they are just short-term speculative traders looking for a cent here and a few shillings there in terms of capital gains. We need to focus more on whatever is happening now not in the context of how battered our portfolios are, but by how well-positioned we are in the face of this battering. Will KCB, COOP, EQTY, I&M et al sink into oblivion because of the Banking Amendment Bill? Certainly not. If you look at the same scenario in the long term, the bear is just doing what all bears do; offer you an opportunity to get more shares at hugely discounted prices. So if I may ask, you guys preferred buying Equity at Ksh. 40, KCB at Ksh. 32.50 etc last week but when the market offers the same to you at much lower prices you start whining and curse the bear? No wonder Michael Joseph said Kenyans are a peculiar lot. Five or so years from now, those who are whining about the bear will wish they were buying shares instead. And for guys wishing to take money out of the stock market and do business with, clearly you don't understand the essence of investing in the stock market; the bourse is where you keep money that you don't have immediate use for. If you are using business money (meant for active investments) to buy shares (passive investment), you're exposing yourself to paper loss. Stock market is for your savings...that's why it's a long term playstore.
Ericsson
#7 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 5:35:29 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,820
Location: NAIROBI
Stock market is like your pension/retirement money not something you treat like monthly salary
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Impunity
#8 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 5:38:57 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
streetwise wrote:
This one is not yet over. Fist it was the bear run. The came warning by atleat 8 listed companies Then came Brexit. Then came interest caps Yet to come elections 2017. Any way don't worry the shares will be in the range of cents you may accumulate and you wish
smile
Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
shocks
#9 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 6:22:06 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/15/2009
Posts: 362
streetwise wrote:
This one is not yet over. Fist it was the bear run. The came warning by atleat 8 listed companies Then came Brexit. Then came interest caps Yet to come elections 2017. Any way don't worry the shares will be in the range of cents you may accumulate and you wish
In 2013 guys who were waiting to board after elections missed the bus, or they had to chase it for several km
lochaz-index
#10 Posted : Monday, August 29, 2016 8:44:04 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/18/2014
Posts: 1,127
Mangs wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hisah wrote:
@deal welcome back. I see the ulcers central has caught you attention smile Now waiting for @mwekezaji, stocksmaster and ProverB to come out of hibernation we start having proper discussions as the heavy bear mauling creates pandemonium.
When do you guys think we will see the "real" end of this downtrend in banks? Will it be in Q4 or well after the 2017 pols? Or will it next week?
The problem with most of the so-called "Investors" in this forum is that they are just short-term speculative traders looking for a cent here and a few shillings there in terms of capital gains. We need to focus more on whatever is happening now not in the context of how battered our portfolios are, but by how well-positioned we are in the face of this battering. Will KCB, COOP, EQTY, I&M et al sink into oblivion because of the Banking Amendment Bill? Certainly not. If you look at the same scenario in the long term, the bear is just doing what all bears do; offer you an opportunity to get more shares at hugely discounted prices. So if I may ask, you guys preferred buying Equity at Ksh. 40, KCB at Ksh. 32.50 etc last week but when the market offers the same to you at much lower prices you start whining and curse the bear? No wonder Michael Joseph said Kenyans are a peculiar lot. Five or so years from now, those who are whining about the bear will wish they were buying shares instead. And for guys wishing to take money out of the stock market and do business with, clearly you don't understand the essence of investing in the stock market; the bourse is where you keep money that you don't have immediate use for. If you are using business money (meant for active investments) to buy shares (passive investment), you're exposing yourself to paper loss. Stock market is for your savings...that's why it's a long term playstore.
It's hard to understand 'the sky is falling' kind of attitude currently engulfing the market. We should be celebrating the low/lower prices. Other than crunching numbers, deducing charts or any other type of analysis, steely nerves are vital if one is to survive and thrive in the market.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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