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France's highest court suspends burkini ban in test case Quote:The state council ruled that the mayor did not have the right to issue a burkini ban – stating that local authorities could only restrict individual liberties if there was a “proven risk” to public order.
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hardwood wrote:If a bikini isn't allowed in Saudi Arabia why should this burkini be allowed in France? Yes. I agree. In addition, they should go and wear the burkinis in Saudi Arabia. There is plenty of sand and sea there after all. Hii story of kuenda kwa wenyewe and loudly demanding for privileges of tight clothing they cannot get at their home origins is ufala.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:hardwood wrote:If a bikini isn't allowed in Saudi Arabia why should this burkini be allowed in France? Yes. I agree. In addition, they should go and wear the burkinis in Saudi Arabia. There is plenty of sand and sea there after all. Hii story of kuenda kwa wenyewe and loudly demanding for privileges of tight clothing they cannot get at their home origins is ufala. @Anti_Burglar, I expected something better from you: voice of reason. All these ranting you've been unleashing in Wazua, all was just act! Right behind your heart is biasesness. But your mask has been uncovered. When it comes to forcing a religious person, you are for it. But when a religious person "forces" a gay person, you are against it! I expected you to say "none of these guys are right, you cannot force someone to your ideals, not in Saudi Arabia, not in France." Look at my position regarding this act here...
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chemirocha wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:The french have had a tough year with Islamic related terror, lets give them a little leeway to regain some semblance of control, may seem a tad overbearing but again who wouldn't react the way they are reacting.
In fact Islamic nations act in this exact way in their areas of control. The same way the french are trying to enforce french acceptable attire is the same way Islamic countries force shariah compliant attire in their countries. I don't hear anyone complaining about it though. One of the founding principles of the French Republic is social equality for all. For the government to restrict those freedoms is hypocrisy of the highest order. Very unfair rules, I agree. Not unless that Muslim dressing is promoting terrorism in some way There's a way the West is moving forcefully towards secularism and liberalism but at the same time claiming to be pro human rights Aren't religious rights human rights? Why should it be frowned upon to speak ill of gays and lesbians but it's okay to speak ill of religious people and their faith(s)? So they will not legislate against gays but will legislate against religion!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Nandwa wrote:chemirocha wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:The french have had a tough year with Islamic related terror, lets give them a little leeway to regain some semblance of control, may seem a tad overbearing but again who wouldn't react the way they are reacting.
In fact Islamic nations act in this exact way in their areas of control. The same way the french are trying to enforce french acceptable attire is the same way Islamic countries force shariah compliant attire in their countries. I don't hear anyone complaining about it though. One of the founding principles of the French Republic is social equality for all. For the government to restrict those freedoms is hypocrisy of the highest order. Extra-ordinary situations call for extraordinary measures. The French have been pushed to the wall. How does a swimming Frenchwoman's swimsuit affect the fight against terrorism? Si they chase all those Muslims out of France to Algeria, Morocco and wherever else they came from mara moja?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:chemirocha wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:The french have had a tough year with Islamic related terror, lets give them a little leeway to regain some semblance of control, may seem a tad overbearing but again who wouldn't react the way they are reacting.
In fact Islamic nations act in this exact way in their areas of control. The same way the french are trying to enforce french acceptable attire is the same way Islamic countries force shariah compliant attire in their countries. I don't hear anyone complaining about it though. One of the founding principles of the French Republic is social equality for all. For the government to restrict those freedoms is hypocrisy of the highest order. Very unfair rules, I agree. Not unless that Muslim dressing is promoting terrorism in some way There's a way the West is moving forcefully towards secularism and liberalism but at the same time claiming to be pro human rights Aren't religious rights human rights? Why should it be frowned upon to speak ill of gays and lesbians but it's okay to speak ill of religious people and their faith(s)? So they will not legislate against gays but will legislate against religion! @Lolest! you've spoken in one your most articulate manner: every person to be given a right that is believed to belong justifiably to every person.  I expected the so-called champion of human rights @burglar to speak like that, but he has betrayed himself to be not what he always claims to be.
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AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:hardwood wrote:If a bikini isn't allowed in Saudi Arabia why should this burkini be allowed in France? Yes. I agree. In addition, they should go and wear the burkinis in Saudi Arabia. There is plenty of sand and sea there after all. Hii story of kuenda kwa wenyewe and loudly demanding for privileges of tight clothing they cannot get at their home origins is ufala. @Anti_Burglar, I expected something better from you: voice of reason. All these ranting you've been unleashing in Wazua, all was just act! Right behind your heart is biasesness. But your mask has been uncovered. When it comes to forcing a religious person, you are for it. But when a religious person "forces" a gay person, you are against it! I expected you to say "none of these guys are right, you cannot force someone to your ideals, not in Saudi Arabia, not in France." Look at my position regarding this act here... Go away. Europe is a safe haven for religious folk who want to do 'forbidden' stuff. They are free to do whatever they want so long as it is not perpetuating their religion especially seeing that their religion is the most suffocating and stifling religion on the face of this planet with absolutely no freedom. This Turkish imam has been suspended after ‘pieces of cucumber’ was found in his rectum Of course suspension would not happen in Saudi Arabia and your other favourite Islamic countries. Execution would have been the only thing! If you want to practise your religion go do it where it originated from. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:hardwood wrote:If a bikini isn't allowed in Saudi Arabia why should this burkini be allowed in France? Yes. I agree. In addition, they should go and wear the burkinis in Saudi Arabia. There is plenty of sand and sea there after all. Hii story of kuenda kwa wenyewe and loudly demanding for privileges of tight clothing they cannot get at their home origins is ufala. @Anti_Burglar, I expected something better from you: voice of reason. All these ranting you've been unleashing in Wazua, all was just act! Right behind your heart is biasesness. But your mask has been uncovered. When it comes to forcing a religious person, you are for it. But when a religious person "forces" a gay person, you are against it! I expected you to say "none of these guys are right, you cannot force someone to your ideals, not in Saudi Arabia, not in France." Look at my position regarding this act here... Go away. Europe is a safe haven for religious folk who want to do 'forbidden' stuff. They are free to do whatever they want so long as it is not perpetuating their religion especially seeing that their religion is the most suffocating and stifling religion on the face of this planet with absolutely no freedom. This Turkish imam has been suspended after ‘pieces of cucumber’ was found in his rectum Of course suspension would not happen in Saudi Arabia and your other favourite Islamic countries. Execution would have been the only thing! If you want to practise your religion go do it where it originated from. @Anti_Burglar how does ‘pieces of cucumber’ has to do with a religion? You see how you've stooped so low and become Islamophobic? In fact the European country you mentioned should tell us why they suspended the man, is it coz he is Turkish or coz he is imam? Which law did he break by ‘pieces of cucumber’ was found in his rectum? And in those countries you mentioned, why would he be executed? Which law says no ‘pieces of cucumber’ should be found in a rectum? @Anti_Burglar, this time uko down!!!
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AlphDoti wrote:
@Anti_Burglar how does ‘pieces of cucumber’ has to do with a religion? You see how you've stooped so low and become Islamophobic? In fact the European country you mentioned should tell us why they suspended the man, is it coz he is Turkish or coz he is imam? Which law did he break by ‘pieces of cucumber’ was found in his rectum?
And in those countries you mentioned, why would he be executed? Which law says no ‘pieces of cucumber’ should be found in a rectum?
@Anti_Burglar, this time uko down!!!
Oh, sorry, you are right. .... Cucumber in a mans rectum has got nothing to do with religion....... they only have to do with the thought process and because of the thought process I would rather have this Imam discussing with me than you. He has liberal ideas and is willing to think of new things and even do them. The Burkini should also be made more liberal, yes?
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