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Lek wrote:Word is, CMA has cracked the whip on cash management solutions offered by various fund managers. They've been asked to shut them down and refund the cash. Any confirmation on this? Cytton also offers this product. This crackdown includes Unit Trusts? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/6/2010 Posts: 25
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Unit trusts are not affected as they are properly within CMA regulations.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/12/2011 Posts: 57 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:[quote=Lek]Word is, CMA has cracked the whip on cash management solutions offered by various fund managers. They've been asked to shut them down and refund the cash. Any confirmation on this? Cytton also offers this product. This crackdown includes Unit Trusts? Unit trusts is not affected only CMS, cyntonn is not regulated by cma so i hardly doubt they received the letter to discontinue the product,all other fund managers have been asked to discontinue.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Unit Trusts and CMSs, what us the difference In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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deadline is 15 November to find a solution... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/31/2014 Posts: 24
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KulaRaha wrote:deadline is 15 November to find a solution... Which probably explains the setting up if Cytonn Asset Managers Lts as per their weekly newsletter sent out yesterday: "In order to provide more clients with access to our investment solutions, the Board of Directors of Cytonn Investments Management Limited has recently approved the formation of a regulated subsidiary, Cytonn Asset Managers Ltd, CAM. CAM will be focused on offering our unique and high return products to regulated segments such as Unit Trust investors and pension schemes. Our products have generally been restricted to institutions, private wealth investors through structured partnerships and to the ordinary investor through our investment co-operative, Cytonn Co-operative."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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Hii ni wivu ya ma bankas apparently. I see nothing wrong with a well-managed treasury cash product kama hii Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Angelica _ann wrote:Unit Trusts and CMSs, what us the difference Unit trusts are regulated and transparent in their operations. CMS are ponzi schemes
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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mawinder wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Unit Trusts and CMSs, what us the difference Unit trusts are regulated and transparent in their operations. CMS are ponzi schemes Genius is overflowing
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/4/2015 Posts: 153
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enyands wrote:Ash Ock wrote:Food for thought: Quote:Cytonn pays Sh220m debt owed to Finnish PE firm
Cytonn Investments has paid Sh220 million owed to Finnish PE firm Taaleritehdas Private Equity Funds (TTA), giving the fund what Cytton said is a return of 54 per cent on the short-term debt.
Cytonn chief investment officer Elizabeth Nkukuu said the Sh220 million payment is inclusive of total returns due to the Finnish firm.
The note was part of the Sh1.4 billion Cytonn raised in September from local and foreign investors in a private placement to fund its real estate projects.
The debt was used as bridging financing for some of the firm’s real estate projects. Payment of such notes usually indicates that the borrower has secured longer-term financing from financial institutions at lower interest rates.
READ: Cytonn, Finnish firm break ground for Sh1bn Karen homes
“The note was structured at a market rate cost of funds of 18 per cent plus participation in the capital appreciation achieved during the period the note was outstanding, bringing the total annualised return earned by TTA to 54 per cent,” said Ms Nkukuu in a statement.
“TTA has financed over Sh2 billion of Cytonn projects and we are very glad to have demonstrated to them our capabilities in structured financing and commitment to our financiers by starting to return some of that capital in less than a year.”
The two firms are partnering in real-estate projects, including the high-end Amara Ridge in Karen worth Sh1 billion. http://www.businessdaily...2/-/fxi08a/-/index.html
Very good retutns.... Bright minds .whose willing to spread risks .need four people on board @Enyands did you invest? Anyone willing to go in with 500k? I have 500K we can share the risk!Let's do atleast 3 months for a trial..! Those who has invested at Cytonn since the start to date have earned well and with elections in sight the rates will only go North..!As for the critics. I guess they made something somewhere..! Dreams are not the thing you see in your sleep..it's the thing that doesn't let you sleep. - A.P.J. Abdul Kalam
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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ayushnehra wrote:enyands wrote:Ash Ock wrote:Food for thought: Quote:Cytonn pays Sh220m debt owed to Finnish PE firm
Cytonn Investments has paid Sh220 million owed to Finnish PE firm Taaleritehdas Private Equity Funds (TTA), giving the fund what Cytton said is a return of 54 per cent on the short-term debt.
Cytonn chief investment officer Elizabeth Nkukuu said the Sh220 million payment is inclusive of total returns due to the Finnish firm.
The note was part of the Sh1.4 billion Cytonn raised in September from local and foreign investors in a private placement to fund its real estate projects.
The debt was used as bridging financing for some of the firm’s real estate projects. Payment of such notes usually indicates that the borrower has secured longer-term financing from financial institutions at lower interest rates.
READ: Cytonn, Finnish firm break ground for Sh1bn Karen homes
“The note was structured at a market rate cost of funds of 18 per cent plus participation in the capital appreciation achieved during the period the note was outstanding, bringing the total annualised return earned by TTA to 54 per cent,” said Ms Nkukuu in a statement.
“TTA has financed over Sh2 billion of Cytonn projects and we are very glad to have demonstrated to them our capabilities in structured financing and commitment to our financiers by starting to return some of that capital in less than a year.”
The two firms are partnering in real-estate projects, including the high-end Amara Ridge in Karen worth Sh1 billion. http://www.businessdaily...2/-/fxi08a/-/index.html
Very good retutns.... Bright minds .whose willing to spread risks .need four people on board @Enyands did you invest? Anyone willing to go in with 500k? I have 500K we can share the risk!Let's do atleast 3 months for a trial..! Those who has invested at Cytonn since the start to date have earned well and with elections in sight the rates will only go North..!As for the critics. I guess they made something somewhere..! I decided to wait and see.developed some cold feet somewhere and waiting for the sign before proceeding .wish you luck
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Horton wrote:mawinder wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Unit Trusts and CMSs, what us the difference Unit trusts are regulated and transparent in their operations. CMS are ponzi schemes Genius is overflowing Any better/clearer answer to my question In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:Horton wrote:mawinder wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Unit Trusts and CMSs, what us the difference Unit trusts are regulated and transparent in their operations. CMS are ponzi schemes Genius is overflowing Any better/clearer answer to my question Unit trusts are also a CMS's If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/12/2011 Posts: 57 Location: nairobi
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fund managers are required to invest in more than one class of investments but with cms it is only in bank deposits,according to cma & cbk by allowing fund managers to do cms they are acting like micro finances and banks,could be the banks are feeling threatened.
Unit trusts are open ended and the funds are invested in many underlying instruments while in cms it is more of a fixed deposit.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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Swenani wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Horton wrote:mawinder wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Unit Trusts and CMSs, what us the difference Unit trusts are regulated and transparent in their operations. CMS are ponzi schemes Genius is overflowing Any better/clearer answer to my question Unit trusts are also a CMS's What is CMS in full basi? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Horton wrote:mawinder wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Unit Trusts and CMSs, what us the difference Unit trusts are regulated and transparent in their operations. CMS are ponzi schemes Genius is overflowing Any better/clearer answer to my question Unit trusts are also a CMS's What is CMS in full basi? Cash management services
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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jano wrote:fund managers are required to invest in more than one class of investments but with cms it is only in bank deposits,according to cma & cbk by allowing fund managers to do cms they are acting like micro finances and banks,could be the banks are feeling threatened.
Unit trusts are open ended and the funds are invested in many underlying instruments while in cms it is more of a fixed deposit.
Asante In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Quote:Cytonn Investments Posts Kshs 630.8 Million Profit In 2015 Financial Year
August 25, 2016
NAIROBI, KENYA, AUGUST, 2016 – Cytonn Investments has posted a Kshs.630.8 million profit for the 2015 Financial Year driven by strong performance in the real estate investments. The audited financial report released at Cytonn’s Annual General Meeting (AGM) this morning also cemented the company’s strong balance sheet with a total asset base of Kshs 6.5 billion.
Cytonn delivered a return on equity of 42.7% with a total equity at Kshs 3.6 billion buoyed by the company’s diversified real estate portfolio, and high yielding investment solutions, delivering robust performance built on a strong and efficient operational base.
“Our strategy to focus on the attractive alternative investment opportunities, which exist in Kenya and the region, drove our performance.’’ said Edwin Dande, Cytonn’s Chief Executive Officer. “For any great firm, it is important to have great people, products, processes and a strong distribution platform, which we have now built at Cytonn. Our focus on real estate, private equity and structured products has delivered attractive returns to our shareholders, clients and partners. As can be seen from our financial results, the balance sheet remains strong with total assets as Kshs 6.5 bn and after tax profit of Kshs 630.8 mn, which have justified our investment strategy. Our strong partnerships with global financing partners such as Taaleri of Finland, committed local partners, combined with a strong research capability has driven our strong performance,” added Edwin Dande.
With Kenya’s annual housing deficit estimated at 200,000 units annually, Cytonn’s focus on delivering institutional grade real estate, encompassed by a platform with a strong brand and focus on execution has driven the company’s total investment portfolio to 14 developments, and Kshs 73 bn of projects under mandate.
“With over 1,200 acres under development, combined with a strong private equity pipeline, we are confident that with our unique strategy of coupling supply and demand will be a catalyst for growth in the market. Our fundamental objectives are to address the housing shortage, create employment opportunities, help in deepening of the capital markets, and play our part in the growth of our economy,” said Elizabeth Nkukuu, CFA, Cytonn’s Chief Investment Officer at the Annual General Meeting.
“For our shareholders and joint venture partners, 2015 was a great year, as can be seen by our financial performance. Cytonn has delivered great numbers, registering profits of Kshs 631 million for the group,” said Prof. Daniel Mugendi, Cytonn’s Chairman. “With the continued attractive investment opportunity in Kenya and the region, and with the committed team at Cytonn, I believe we shall continue to contribute to economic growth, creating jobs and improving the standards of living” added Prof. Mugendi. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Fair value adjustment in P&L could be what????? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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