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Co-operative Bank fate.. discuss
Spikes
#541 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:44:01 AM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
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Location: Mombasa
Realtreaty wrote:
President Uhuru as a Banker himself will not be much swayed by hysteria to punish banks heavily by cutting a 400 point basis but will throw back the bill to Parliamentary committee to check more on proper regulation that is workable.
Kenya should never focus on General Elections to make decisions. They should focus on what is good for all.
With the Liberalized banking systems and competition, regulations should never come as fixed notes. Its not all Kenyans are seeking Loans and so not all banks should be forced to charge the same as each is free to look for market it want to serve.
Regulation should Never be fixed. Banks like any other business are in business.
Or Should we regulate Vegetable prices?



@Realtreaty I don't like the way your arguments are skewed towards supporting high interest rates regime hurting the economy in entirety. Remember even the prices of vegetables can be influenced by bank rates as farmers borrowing costs them dearly. The bill capping interest rates must be signed like yesterday. Kenyans want to see whether the president has their views and desires on heart. It is a real test of this Jubilee administration as Wanjiku is in favour of interest caps, period.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
enyands
#542 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:41:55 AM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
Spikes wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
President Uhuru as a Banker himself will not be much swayed by hysteria to punish banks heavily by cutting a 400 point basis but will throw back the bill to Parliamentary committee to check more on proper regulation that is workable.
Kenya should never focus on General Elections to make decisions. They should focus on what is good for all.
With the Liberalized banking systems and competition, regulations should never come as fixed notes. Its not all Kenyans are seeking Loans and so not all banks should be forced to charge the same as each is free to look for market it want to serve.
Regulation should Never be fixed. Banks like any other business are in business.
Or Should we regulate Vegetable prices?



@Realtreaty I don't like the way your arguments are skewed towards supporting high interest rates regime hurting the economy in entirety. Remember even the prices of vegetables can be influenced by bank rates as farmers borrowing costs them dearly. The bill capping interest rates must be signed like yesterday. Kenyans want to see whether the president has their views and desires on heart. It is a real test of this Jubilee administration as Wanjiku is in favour of interest caps, period.


If he signs then he will stay in power and if he doesn't sign,ODM has a campaign tool after JJ story.im sure he is going to sign it .popular votes politics have to be played
enyands
#543 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:12:01 AM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
Aguytrying wrote:
obiero wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Seriously what spooked the COOP share.. This is madness

You. It appears you have bad blood/omen following you just like someone who when he supports a side, that side loses kama Harambee stars. Now @Obiero if we had wazua ipsos rating am sure you'd be ranked lowest and loosing publicity/liking fastest. Having misled the upcoming investors into the compost KQ covered with perfume. Now coop too. It's high time you went under, refresh and be reborn. Come back when you're sobber that you distinguish emotions and investments. Your sells were good but your buys?????? KQ PPT...is Co-op hiring you again?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly compost covered KQ.
I once said the reason coop shares never fly is coz they have too many shares. It's a good bank, but serious growth is needed to exorcise the demons above 30. This is a good time to buy now that share price is beaten down. Kcb, nic have also dropped sharply remember and they are decent banks too.

Now if COOP is accused of having many shares what about SCOM. Kuna watu hunishangaza sana hapa wazua Laughing out loudly


Exactly. remember how long safaricom laboured below 5 bob because of those many shares, share consolidation was the hot topic then.
How did they exorcise the sub 10 demon? Consistent growth and becoming a super brand. now baffling everyone. the former being my recommended remedy for coop. Even Cic has too many shares. When a company is still growing its better to have fewer shares then the impact can be felt. too many shares coupled with a slight overvaluation historically equals price stagnation in future. my 2 cents.


You are right especially on the law of supply and demand . There are so many shares yet the uptake is few. Try list 10,000 shares of Windsor hotel and see how the price will rise everyday and compare with 600m shares of the same?same thing applies with coop.Also in addition to redundant management with old school ideas of running a bank
VituVingiSana
#544 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:15:34 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
Spikes wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
President Uhuru as a Banker himself will not be much swayed by hysteria to punish banks heavily by cutting a 400 point basis but will throw back the bill to Parliamentary committee to check more on proper regulation that is workable.
Kenya should never focus on General Elections to make decisions. They should focus on what is good for all.
With the Liberalized banking systems and competition, regulations should never come as fixed notes. Its not all Kenyans are seeking Loans and so not all banks should be forced to charge the same as each is free to look for market it want to serve.
Regulation should Never be fixed. Banks like any other business are in business.
Or Should we regulate Vegetable prices?



@Realtreaty I don't like the way your arguments are skewed towards supporting high interest rates regime hurting the economy in entirety. Remember even the prices of vegetables can be influenced by bank rates as farmers borrowing costs them dearly. The bill capping interest rates must be signed like yesterday. Kenyans want to see whether the president has their views and desires on heart. It is a real test of this Jubilee administration as Wanjiku is in favour of interest caps, period.


@RealTreaty has a point. If you are going to control one sector/aspect then it will lead to controls in other sectors. Instead of "price controls" I prefer GoK borrows less, gets out of the business of Business and creates structures that facilitate private citizens to do more by themselves...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
wukan
#545 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:55:16 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,654
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
President Uhuru as a Banker himself will not be much swayed by hysteria to punish banks heavily by cutting a 400 point basis but will throw back the bill to Parliamentary committee to check more on proper regulation that is workable.
Kenya should never focus on General Elections to make decisions. They should focus on what is good for all.
With the Liberalized banking systems and competition, regulations should never come as fixed notes. Its not all Kenyans are seeking Loans and so not all banks should be forced to charge the same as each is free to look for market it want to serve.
Regulation should Never be fixed. Banks like any other business are in business.
Or Should we regulate Vegetable prices?



@Realtreaty I don't like the way your arguments are skewed towards supporting high interest rates regime hurting the economy in entirety. Remember even the prices of vegetables can be influenced by bank rates as farmers borrowing costs them dearly. The bill capping interest rates must be signed like yesterday. Kenyans want to see whether the president has their views and desires on heart. It is a real test of this Jubilee administration as Wanjiku is in favour of interest caps, period.


@RealTreaty has a point. If you are going to control one sector/aspect then it will lead to controls in other sectors. Instead of "price controls" I prefer GoK borrows less, gets out of the business of Business and creates structures that facilitate private citizens to do more by themselves...


We need a Thatcher or Reagan to roll back the govt unfortunately we have Hugo Chavez's socialism. It's suffocating to do business with GoK in everyone's business. Wait till la nina kicks in, the next price controls will be Unga
Realtreaty
#546 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 6:16:09 PM
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Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,386
Realtreaty
#547 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 6:22:31 PM
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Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,386
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Muriuki is still very Young and cannot be called Old Generation. He is a Jubilee Generation
http://www.nation.co.ke/busines...347730-c81byi/index.html
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Now the Haters got the middle finger gift!!!
Realtreaty
#548 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:24:27 PM
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Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,386
Laughing out loudly Do you mean people had already pressed sale buttons but no buyers triggering a fall after positive results?
They refused to engage an interim dividend by considering that they never offered such services earlier.
Now what is in the bag next year?
Realtreaty
#549 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:12:07 PM
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Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,386
Sad Sad Total Terrorism spilling all Banks blood on the floor!!!!
They have been slaughtered at close range.
They need to look for other ways to make Money. Now the banks will enter into partnership with commercial and industrial firms thereby hitting hard the common mwananchi with small business!!!Sad
obiero
#550 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 8:11:23 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
COOP has become the first and only listed lender to bite the bullet by adoption of the bill as signed.. This will be the moment to remember how COOP became the largest and most profitable Kenyan bank.. Interesting times
https://citizentv.co.ke/...rates-to-14-5pc-138641/

http://www.businessdaily...58884-t7dbtvz/index.html

KQ ABP 4.26
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