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2016 Rio Olympics Thread
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#101 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 9:57:52 AM
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Alba wrote:
Genzebe has not been running much probably because of the fiasco with her coach being busted for EPO. I am fairly certain that Genzebe Dibaba is a doper as is Mo Farah.

In any case most countries including Ethiopia and Kenya do not have an off season dope testing program. Remember that doping is most effective when you are doing your pre-season running. Athletes build up their endurance during the months of January to March and thats when they dope. So testing during the Olympics is almost useless.

Without an effective off-season testing program in each country, its difficult to believe any result.



Oh very informative, never knew that, have always assumed they test an athlete after a race for doping.
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#102 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 11:42:37 AM
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The Fiji gold medal in Rugby 7s was the FIRST EVER MEDAL for the island. What a momentous occasion. That team will be immortalized in the annuls of fijian history. very happy for them. They must be in sevens heaven right now
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#103 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 12:18:46 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
10,000M silver is great. The winner broke the WR

The funny thing Vivian is now faster than dibaba and she has never won a race dibaba was in You have to feel for her she has been chasing dibaba for so long and now enters ayana.@Alba is right that Ayana WR is subject to some serious debate she did not even strain considering the number of people she lapped she could have even gone faster
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#104 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 2:25:35 PM
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madollar wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
10,000M silver is great. The winner broke the WR

The funny thing Vivian is now faster than dibaba and she has never won a race dibaba was in You have to feel for her she has been chasing dibaba for so long and now enters ayana.@Alba is right that Ayana WR is subject to some serious debate she did not even strain considering the number of people she lapped she could have even gone faster


Team kenya strategy was wrong.Aprot started well.Saina was supposed to take over when Aprot tired.This would have allowed Vivian to breakout within 2-3 last laps.But saina was slow to take over from aprot thus allowing Ayana to run away with the gold.
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#105 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 11:44:20 PM
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madollar wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
10,000M silver is great. The winner broke the WR

The funny thing Vivian is now faster than dibaba and she has never won a race dibaba was in You have to feel for her she has been chasing dibaba for so long and now enters ayana.@Alba is right that Ayana WR is subject to some serious debate she did not even strain considering the number of people she lapped she could have even gone faster



Now that Vivian has won....congrats to her for opening the medal...GAL power right there, true leader for the olympic team.As for Omonde making apologies for Shujaa's performance he ought to know he owes none to us mafans.Those in Kenya 7's team are the real courage of what it means to fight for a vision eregardless of the pitfalls,potholes and lack of support from a government that is so handsomely awarded with Kenyan taxes...so no matter how they perfromaed they deserve our accolades,words of encouragement and cheers!....but pliss lets also PRAY for them that all will be well given the games they have so far chosen to wash!!!..tuombe Zika isifike254!Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray
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#106 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:04:35 AM
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Alba wrote:
Genzebe has not been running much probably because of the fiasco with her coach being busted for EPO. I am fairly certain that Genzebe Dibaba is a doper as is Mo Farah.

In any case most countries including Ethiopia and Kenya do not have an off season dope testing program. Remember that doping is most effective when you are doing your pre-season running. Athletes build up their endurance during the months of January to March and thats when they dope. So testing during the Olympics is almost useless.

Without an effective off-season testing program in each country, its difficult to believe any result.


I don't know how true your statement is. From sources on the internet, tests are random and can be taken anywhere anytime. I have never heard of off season dope testing program. I'd appreciate if you enlighten me verifiable information.
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#107 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 3:54:55 AM
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Its not looking too good for KE in 10K
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#108 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 3:57:52 AM
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Tanui Silver, Mo farah is unbeatable
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#109 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:06:38 PM
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Well what to say about Ayana, i will be surprised if she doped - i think she just had too much in the tank for the rest, i feel for Vivian Cheruiyot.

On the 7's well am not surprised because i don't think they were mentally prepared for the olympics. Until Benja and Co attend technical classes like for 6 months on coaching we will always have this erratic results. In this case Kenyans tried to fall back on their natural athletisism instead of what they had been training and when that happens your goose is cooked. But it was clear they were not prepared.

I have been fortunate to visit the Nike Oregon project where Mo trains and the facilities are a sight to behold and i quickly realised it will take a monumental effort to defeat MO. To put it into context Mo came last in 2008 and 4 years later won gold - so what happened? The Oregon project has added technical bits to long distance training. i.e. Mo has a small oxygen chamber that only fits his head that he sleeps in - to recreate the high altitude in Iten and Addis. Half of his training is done in an underwater treadmill to create strength and speed (hence the kick) The advantage he has over the rest is so huge hence why they can never have a sniff at him. My question is why can't Tanui and the rest move to Oregon?

For me by far the most exciting has been the swimming, am a big fan of the American teenage sensation Katie Ledecky, Missy Franklin has been below par however in the US they have this swimming centres littered round the country and the focus is and always will be technique. It was fascinating to see - they are not interested in times but from the blocks, the angle of entry in the water, optimum amount of dolphin kicks, the turn simply amazing, maen we have a long way and we may have natural athletes but we stand no match with the technical nature of the sport. Same case with the British in Rowing (these are Cambridge/Oxford boys and both in Cambridge and Oxford they have rowing labs that have perfected the art of rowing.


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#110 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 6:10:13 PM
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