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4,000 oil barrels daily...by road and dead railway!
masukuma
#21 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 11:25:58 AM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
4000 barrels per day should place us above akina Iran and UAE in oil production, at least according to wikipedia
List_of_countries_by_oil_production

@masukuma is that data correct smile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly no! Bangladesh has 4,800 and Switzerland has 3,900 so at 4000 we will be number 99!
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Impunity
#22 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 11:49:00 AM
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masukuma wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
4000 barrels per day should place us above akina Iran and UAE in oil production, at least according to wikipedia
List_of_countries_by_oil_production

@masukuma is that data correct smile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly no! Bangladesh has 4,800 and Switzerland has 3,900 so at 4000 we will be number 99!


I am surprised Jordan produces almost zero barrels per day when compared to her rich neighbors.
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murchr
#23 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 3:35:19 PM
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Impunity wrote:
murchr wrote:
Instead of looking for trucks that you can hire so that you can transport that oil b4 a heating pipeline is built, ni gumzo tu! Laughing out loudly 4000 barrels is just enough fuel to run the proboxes in EA.



I know a few kiuk friends who have gone bought the normal tankers used to ferry refined fuel in anticipation to transport the crude...how sad!
You need special tankers to ferry crude, and its not cheap.


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sitaki.kujulikana
#24 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 4:50:18 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I think all will be well as long as we can process the oil at equal or lower than imported refined oil.

Atleast we get to save on forex.

which is a measly Sh 4B per annum for the starting 2,000BPD assuming world class efficiency in the production process

I highly doubt it, the saudis can easily sell us their oil at a lower price than we can produce ours, unless we go the nationalist route, even the americans wamewezwa.
We don't need much oil as a country, I think its better if we export the oil in its crude form, wacha that waste (which I assume exists after the refining process) ikae huko majuu. And we can enjoy our geothermal


Where did you learn your economics, Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly there are no two prices for the same thing, Saudis produce cheap but still sell at the world market prices. So as long our break even point is equivalent or below the world market prices, we are in business.

We can also still be in business if we tax imports but don't tax local production to match our local production costs to world prices, were they to be higher.

I have been learning my economics on wazua smile but the saudis fracked those american frackers smile
its like if you have a borehole that needs a pump to bring water to the surface, and so you have to fuel and maintain that pump to get water, but your neighbor has a well that ka aquifers well that just pushes water out by itself, now would you be better getting your water from the expensive pump or buying the cheap water from your neighbor.

but either-way my opinion would be not to invest too much into an energy source that's headed into extinction.
sitaki.kujulikana
#25 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2016 4:52:14 PM
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masukuma wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
4000 barrels per day should place us above akina Iran and UAE in oil production, at least according to wikipedia
List_of_countries_by_oil_production

@masukuma is that data correct smile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly no! Bangladesh has 4,800 and Switzerland has 3,900 so at 4000 we will be number 99!

Laughing out loudly 99 is not bad, if only they (whoever does that) can come up with a car, or machine that runs efficiently on crude oil, we would be set.
FRM2011
#26 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 11:34:24 AM
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Isn't it interesting that we are discussing this without puting it in its rightful political context.

Min of Energy is under URP. 2017 is an election year.

Ama we have dreamers here who believe arap mashamba would actually be interested in a project that improves the lives of Kenyans. The only thing that sells in urp is that which promises wsr the highest amount of cash. And this looks like an easy money maker.
sitaki.kujulikana
#27 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 1:54:58 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Isn't it interesting that we are discussing this without puting it in its rightful political context.

Min of Energy is under URP. 2017 is an election year.

Ama we have dreamers here who believe arap mashamba would actually be interested in a project that improves the lives of Kenyans. The only thing that sells in urp is that which promises wsr the highest amount of cash. And this looks like an easy money maker.

which politician is interested in projects that improve the lives of kenyans, if that was the case we would be in the same league with the tigers. Just mention one political leader that has the kenyan people as his first priority
FRM2011
#28 Posted : Sunday, August 14, 2016 5:54:16 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Isn't it interesting that we are discussing this without puting it in its rightful political context.

Min of Energy is under URP. 2017 is an election year.

Ama we have dreamers here who believe arap mashamba would actually be interested in a project that improves the lives of Kenyans. The only thing that sells in urp is that which promises wsr the highest amount of cash. And this looks like an easy money maker.

which politician is interested in projects that improve the lives of kenyans, if that was the case we would be in the same league with the tigers. Just mention one political leader that has the kenyan people as his first priority


Our president is very close. You get a feeling his heart is in the right place but he is beholden by the baggage of corrupt cartels in his own party and a difficult marriage to a kleptomaniac partner.
Taurrus
#29 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2016 8:55:20 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Isn't it interesting that we are discussing this without puting it in its rightful political context.

Min of Energy is under URP. 2017 is an election year.

Ama we have dreamers here who believe arap mashamba would actually be interested in a project that improves the lives of Kenyans. The only thing that sells in urp is that which promises wsr the highest amount of cash. And this looks like an easy money maker.

which politician is interested in projects that improve the lives of kenyans, if that was the case we would be in the same league with the tigers. Just mention one political leader that has the kenyan people as his first priority


Our president is very close. You get a feeling his heart is in the right place but he is beholden by the baggage of corrupt cartels in his own party and a difficult marriage to a kleptomaniac partner.

Thanks!Applause
sitaki.kujulikana
#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:11:43 AM
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Taurrus wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Isn't it interesting that we are discussing this without puting it in its rightful political context.

Min of Energy is under URP. 2017 is an election year.

Ama we have dreamers here who believe arap mashamba would actually be interested in a project that improves the lives of Kenyans. The only thing that sells in urp is that which promises wsr the highest amount of cash. And this looks like an easy money maker.

which politician is interested in projects that improve the lives of kenyans, if that was the case we would be in the same league with the tigers. Just mention one political leader that has the kenyan people as his first priority


Our president is very close. You get a feeling his heart is in the right place but he is beholden by the baggage of corrupt cartels in his own party and a difficult marriage to a kleptomaniac partner.

Thanks!Applause


This thing about excuses is just that, its like a man complaining that if it were not for the wife or his money hungry relatives he would have done wonders for his hungry, sickly kids.
If you put your kids first then the wife or relatives won't matter, in fact they will realize that and adopt accordingly.
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