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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:3.60 sit tight, rights was at 14 to break the 14 you will be a millionaire we have taken a big hit today.. the floor appears to have been retested.. but better times are ahead Better times of sub-2 bob are yet to be tested. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Impunity wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:3.60 sit tight, rights was at 14 to break the 14 you will be a millionaire we have taken a big hit today.. the floor appears to have been retested.. but better times are ahead Better times of sub-2 bob are yet to be tested. @Obiero I pity you! Your only NSE bellwether , KQ, is hurriedly headed to the gallows. 50CENTS is on the offing. At 50 cents I'll swing in with full force of my fortune even if KQ is being suspended from trading the following day. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Spikes wrote:Impunity wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:3.60 sit tight, rights was at 14 to break the 14 you will be a millionaire we have taken a big hit today.. the floor appears to have been retested.. but better times are ahead Better times of sub-2 bob are yet to be tested. @Obiero I pity you! Your only NSE bellwether , KQ, is hurriedly headed to the gallows. 50CENTS is on the offing. At 50 cents I'll swing in with full force of my fortune even if KQ is being suspended from trading the following day. There is nothing positive about this company it's just 1 big shit hole and the worst thing is the MD staying putting...lack of ideas kabisa. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:What's the number about? Any fresh resignations in the technical department??? Let him buy time as he wait for the pilot's strike. Answer to the above??
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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EBENYO KQ FY 2015 results analysis and commentary. Revenue-kshs 116,158,000,000 Expenses-kshs 142,265,00,000 Balance- Kshs negative 26,107,000,000. *Fuel costs forms 40% of the airline direct costs.Deloite found a lot of corruption here involving employees.The pride of africa buys fuel at higher price than any other airline.Kq is loosing about 27 bilion here.If its sealed,operating loss will be wiped out.The tender process here is very corrupt. Its commendable however that direct costs came down from 76 billion in 2014 to 67 bilion in 2015.The efforts done their are bearing fruits. *7 aircrafts were leased/sold.Nevertheless,fleet ownership cost went up from 25 bilion to 29 bilion.This partly due to the arrival of the new aircraft.KQ should stop buying new aircrafts for now.Attention should be turned to the maintenance of current 36 aircrafts only.To make sure that they are in good conditions and are generating more revenues. *With the intended staff lay off, i expect the overhead costs to come down in the next financial year.Kq should also make good use of pride center. *The govt should give kshs 30 bilion to KQ in order to brigde the gap between operation costs and loans repayment.The company should go for cheap loans in the market.Avoid loan repayment in dollars.This will save atleast kshs 3.5 bilion. *Customers should bear the costs of foreign exchange.At 10 bilion,foreign loss is high. *Longterm loan of kshs113 bilion should be rescheduled. BASED ON THESE FY 15 RESULTS: *KQ will need to generate revenue in excess of kshs 143 bilion to close the profitability gap.This means they will have to make kshs 27 bilion more. In FY 14 they generated kshs 110 bilion.That means they made 6 bilion more in FY 15. *Let me assume they will make 6 bilion more in the current FY 16 period.That will bring revenue to kshs 122 bilion.Going this way,it will take atleast the next five years for KQ to return to profitability. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:Spikes wrote:Impunity wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:3.60 sit tight, rights was at 14 to break the 14 you will be a millionaire we have taken a big hit today.. the floor appears to have been retested.. but better times are ahead Better times of sub-2 bob are yet to be tested. @Obiero I pity you! Your only NSE bellwether , KQ, is hurriedly headed to the gallows. 50CENTS is on the offing. At 50 cents I'll swing in with full force of my fortune even if KQ is being suspended from trading the following day. There is nothing positive about this company it's just 1 big shit hole and the worst thing is the MD staying putting...lack of ideas kabisa. 9900 Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,763 Location: nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:EBENYO KQ FY 2015 results analysis and commentary.
Revenue-kshs 116,158,000,000 Expenses-kshs 142,265,00,000 Balance- Kshs negative 26,107,000,000.
*Fuel costs forms 40% of the airline direct costs.Deloite found a lot of corruption here involving employees.The pride of africa buys fuel at higher price than any other airline.Kq is loosing about 27 bilion here.If its sealed,operating loss will be wiped out.The tender process here is very corrupt. Its commendable however that direct costs came down from 76 billion in 2014 to 67 bilion in 2015.The efforts done their are bearing fruits. *7 aircrafts were leased/sold.Nevertheless,fleet ownership cost went up from 25 bilion to 29 bilion.This partly due to the arrival of the new aircraft.KQ should stop buying new aircrafts for now.Attention should be turned to the maintenance of current 36 aircrafts only.To make sure that they are in good conditions and are generating more revenues. *With the intended staff lay off, i expect the overhead costs to come down in the next financial year.Kq should also make good use of pride center. *The govt should give kshs 30 bilion to KQ in order to brigde the gap between operation costs and loans repayment.The company should go for cheap loans in the market.Avoid loan repayment in dollars.This will save atleast kshs 3.5 bilion. *Customers should bear the costs of foreign exchange.At 10 bilion,foreign loss is high. *Longterm loan of kshs113 bilion should be rescheduled.
BASED ON THESE FY 15 RESULTS: *KQ will need to generate revenue in excess of kshs 143 bilion to close the profitability gap.This means they will have to make kshs 27 bilion more. In FY 14 they generated kshs 110 bilion.That means they made 6 bilion more in FY 15. *Let me assume they will make 6 bilion more in the current FY 16 period.That will bring revenue to kshs 122 bilion.Going this way,it will take atleast the next five years for KQ to return to profitability.
@ebenyo.. Are you part of the audit team handling KQ or these are simply your desires COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,763 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:Impunity wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:3.60 sit tight, rights was at 14 to break the 14 you will be a millionaire we have taken a big hit today.. the floor appears to have been retested.. but better times are ahead Better times of sub-2 bob are yet to be tested. @Obiero I pity you! Your only NSE bellwether , KQ, is hurriedly headed to the gallows. 50CENTS is on the offing. At 50 cents I'll swing in with full force of my fortune even if KQ is being suspended from trading the following day. @spikes. kindly save your pity for someone else.. I have the boxes on this one checked. KQ will make me rich. Many people who have been here for a while rarely comment on my adventure because they have seen how I engage the NSE. Picking the real bottom is my stock in trade. I rarely do value-investing in blue chip firms. Dividends excite people like @vvs and yourself, but I do not need to wait out 365days for KES 0.90 dividend to validate my portfolio. I simply go where the percentages of outsized gain are highest. In government I find comfort and select private firms.. Thank me later COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:EBENYO KQ FY 2015 results analysis and commentary.
Revenue-kshs 116,158,000,000 Expenses-kshs 142,265,00,000 Balance- Kshs negative 26,107,000,000.
*Fuel costs forms 40% of the airline direct costs.Deloite found a lot of corruption here involving employees.The pride of africa buys fuel at higher price than any other airline.Kq is loosing about 27 bilion here.If its sealed,operating loss will be wiped out.The tender process here is very corrupt. Its commendable however that direct costs came down from 76 billion in 2014 to 67 bilion in 2015.The efforts done their are bearing fruits. *7 aircrafts were leased/sold.Nevertheless,fleet ownership cost went up from 25 bilion to 29 bilion.This partly due to the arrival of the new aircraft.KQ should stop buying new aircrafts for now.Attention should be turned to the maintenance of current 36 aircrafts only.To make sure that they are in good conditions and are generating more revenues. *With the intended staff lay off, i expect the overhead costs to come down in the next financial year.Kq should also make good use of pride center. *The govt should give kshs 30 bilion to KQ in order to brigde the gap between operation costs and loans repayment.The company should go for cheap loans in the market.Avoid loan repayment in dollars.This will save atleast kshs 3.5 bilion. *Customers should bear the costs of foreign exchange.At 10 bilion,foreign loss is high. *Longterm loan of kshs113 bilion should be rescheduled.
BASED ON THESE FY 15 RESULTS: *KQ will need to generate revenue in excess of kshs 143 bilion to close the profitability gap.This means they will have to make kshs 27 bilion more. In FY 14 they generated kshs 110 bilion.That means they made 6 bilion more in FY 15. *Let me assume they will make 6 bilion more in the current FY 16 period.That will bring revenue to kshs 122 bilion.Going this way,it will take atleast the next five years for KQ to return to profitability.
@ebenyo.. Are you part of the audit team handling KQ or these are simply your desires @obiero,based on these results,the current turnaround strategy is just aimed at bridging the profitability gap.Realistically,thats painstakingly slow.It will take years to be effective. Tell me anything else either from these results or insider hearsay or whatever else on: 1.How the company intends to grow revenue. 2.How the company intends to cut down (a)Direct costs,(b)Fleet ownership costs (c)Overheads Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,763 Location: nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:EBENYO KQ FY 2015 results analysis and commentary.
Revenue-kshs 116,158,000,000 Expenses-kshs 142,265,00,000 Balance- Kshs negative 26,107,000,000.
*Fuel costs forms 40% of the airline direct costs.Deloite found a lot of corruption here involving employees.The pride of africa buys fuel at higher price than any other airline.Kq is loosing about 27 bilion here.If its sealed,operating loss will be wiped out.The tender process here is very corrupt. Its commendable however that direct costs came down from 76 billion in 2014 to 67 bilion in 2015.The efforts done their are bearing fruits. *7 aircrafts were leased/sold.Nevertheless,fleet ownership cost went up from 25 bilion to 29 bilion.This partly due to the arrival of the new aircraft.KQ should stop buying new aircrafts for now.Attention should be turned to the maintenance of current 36 aircrafts only.To make sure that they are in good conditions and are generating more revenues. *With the intended staff lay off, i expect the overhead costs to come down in the next financial year.Kq should also make good use of pride center. *The govt should give kshs 30 bilion to KQ in order to brigde the gap between operation costs and loans repayment.The company should go for cheap loans in the market.Avoid loan repayment in dollars.This will save atleast kshs 3.5 bilion. *Customers should bear the costs of foreign exchange.At 10 bilion,foreign loss is high. *Longterm loan of kshs113 bilion should be rescheduled.
BASED ON THESE FY 15 RESULTS: *KQ will need to generate revenue in excess of kshs 143 bilion to close the profitability gap.This means they will have to make kshs 27 bilion more. In FY 14 they generated kshs 110 bilion.That means they made 6 bilion more in FY 15. *Let me assume they will make 6 bilion more in the current FY 16 period.That will bring revenue to kshs 122 bilion.Going this way,it will take atleast the next five years for KQ to return to profitability.
@ebenyo.. Are you part of the audit team handling KQ or these are simply your desires @obiero,based on these results,the current turnaround strategy is just aimed at bridging the profitability gap.Realistically,thats painstakingly slow.It will take years to be effective. Tell me anything else either from these results or insider hearsay or whatever else on: 1.How the company intends to grow revenue. 2.How the company intends to cut down (a)Direct costs,(b)Fleet ownership costs (c)Overheads 1. Revenue growth via rote realignment with focus on Africa, plus enhanced incentives to ticket agents.. 2. Less planes which are operating on near full capacity will lead to lower direct cost, as well as ownership cost. Additionally HOTAC shall also be managed via the enhanced OTP. Fewer staff will have lower overhead.. COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:EBENYO KQ FY 2015 results analysis and commentary.
Revenue-kshs 116,158,000,000 Expenses-kshs 142,265,00,000 Balance- Kshs negative 26,107,000,000.
*Fuel costs forms 40% of the airline direct costs.Deloite found a lot of corruption here involving employees.The pride of africa buys fuel at higher price than any other airline.Kq is loosing about 27 bilion here.If its sealed,operating loss will be wiped out.The tender process here is very corrupt. Its commendable however that direct costs came down from 76 billion in 2014 to 67 bilion in 2015.The efforts done their are bearing fruits. *7 aircrafts were leased/sold.Nevertheless,fleet ownership cost went up from 25 bilion to 29 bilion.This partly due to the arrival of the new aircraft.KQ should stop buying new aircrafts for now.Attention should be turned to the maintenance of current 36 aircrafts only.To make sure that they are in good conditions and are generating more revenues. *With the intended staff lay off, i expect the overhead costs to come down in the next financial year.Kq should also make good use of pride center. *The govt should give kshs 30 bilion to KQ in order to brigde the gap between operation costs and loans repayment.The company should go for cheap loans in the market.Avoid loan repayment in dollars.This will save atleast kshs 3.5 bilion. *Customers should bear the costs of foreign exchange.At 10 bilion,foreign loss is high. *Longterm loan of kshs113 bilion should be rescheduled.
BASED ON THESE FY 15 RESULTS: *KQ will need to generate revenue in excess of kshs 143 bilion to close the profitability gap.This means they will have to make kshs 27 bilion more. In FY 14 they generated kshs 110 bilion.That means they made 6 bilion more in FY 15. *Let me assume they will make 6 bilion more in the current FY 16 period.That will bring revenue to kshs 122 bilion.Going this way,it will take atleast the next five years for KQ to return to profitability.
@ebenyo.. Are you part of the audit team handling KQ or these are simply your desires @obiero,based on these results,the current turnaround strategy is just aimed at bridging the profitability gap.Realistically,thats painstakingly slow.It will take years to be effective. Tell me anything else either from these results or insider hearsay or whatever else on: 1.How the company intends to grow revenue. 2.How the company intends to cut down (a)Direct costs,(b)Fleet ownership costs (c)Overheads 1. Revenue growth via rote realignment with focus on Africa, plus enhanced incentives to ticket agents.. 2. Less planes which are operating on near full capacity will lead to lower direct cost, as well as ownership cost. Additionally HOTAC shall also be managed via the enhanced OTP. Fewer staff will have lower overhead.. Thanks for the input.Based on your points,whats your projected revenue target for the current FY 16? AS I WAIT FOR YOUR REVENUE PROJECTION: *Longterm and short term loans total is kshs 142 bilion. That's short term-29 bilion Longterm-113 bilion *Its the short term loans that are causing the 26 bilion loss.This is because kq borrows money to pay loans. *At the repayment of kshs 7 bilion per year,how long will kq pay kshs 113 bilion loan? *Kq needs atleast kshs 36 bilion in cash injection,in order to have a good cash flow. *This short term borrowings is very expensive.It caused massive loses of kshs 10 bilion foreign exchange loss. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,763 Location: nairobi
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I shall post the HY projection in the next few weeks COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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obiero wrote:I shall post the HY projection in the next few weeks Should HY 16 results gives revenue in excess of kshs 72 bilion,i shall begin thinking to buy this counter.I will then take your perspective in NSE seriously.But anything below 72 bilion,know for sure that the disease thats in other gok firms is finally here. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,763 Location: nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:I shall post the HY projection in the next few weeks Should HY 16 results gives revenue in excess of kshs 72 bilion,i shall begin thinking to buy this counter.I will then take your perspective in NSE seriously.But anything below 72 bilion,know for sure that the disease thats in other gok firms is finally here. LOL. So you wait until it ripens to get in? Its hard to become rich in such a manner. Banks are already reducing the lending rate hence making it better for KQ. High risk high return COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:I shall post the HY projection in the next few weeks Should HY 16 results gives revenue in excess of kshs 72 bilion,i shall begin thinking to buy this counter.I will then take your perspective in NSE seriously.But anything below 72 bilion,know for sure that the disease thats in other gok firms is finally here. LOL. So you wait until it ripens to get in? Its hard to become rich in such a manner. Banks are already reducing the lending rate hence making it better for KQ. High risk high return Not really that way.I make my decisions based on the company latest financial results.After going through kq fy 15 results yesterday as i promised you,i now know its financial health.These must be addresed urgently: 1.Cash flow-as you have noted,operation cost deficit is just 4 billion.The bulk of the other 22 bilion in loss is from long term loans repayment of 7 billion,foreign exchange loss of 10 bilion and fuel hedging loss of 4 billion. These needs urgent financial injection.Is there any plan to the same? I now understand the reason for assets sale.Its to help the company attain good cash flow.It requires cash in excess of 30 bilion for kq to attain good cash flow.In the short term, how is this going to be met? 2.Revenue growth-as soon as cash flow problem is solved,here will be next.The aircrafts are now 36. Whats the competitive edge of the aircrafts? Will the business return to its robustness? There are alot of loopholes to be sealed if revenue growth is to be attained.Fuel alone makes kq loose more than 25 bilion in revenue.The corrupt cartels are having field day here. There is corruption involved in foreign exchange also.10 bilion loss in foreign currency is just corruption at its best.Whats mgt doing to address these loopholes? KQ is capable of generating more than 150 bilion in revenue if these holes are sealed. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,763 Location: nairobi
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Signs of life are evident.. Gross profit up 42% +KES10.549B YoY and operating loss position up 76% +KES 12.240B YoY . KQ despite turbulent times remains a bold and treasured brand, African Airline of The Year, Leading Business Class in Africa, delivering 160 landing/takeoffs with uplift of over 10,000 passengers daily covering 54 global destinations. Operation Pride now at 25% of implementation, has achieved 113 improvement activities effected out of a total of 447 specific initiatives. Overall impact being 32% increase on recurrent annual income.. 10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ: 1. End of hedging policy 2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses 3. Rightsizing of the workforce 4. Fuel efficient planes 5. Route optimization 6. Category 1 status at main hub 7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out 8. Sale of non critical assets 9. Global reduction in fuel costs 10. Revival in KE tourism 11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class 12. Cleaned-up board and management 13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers 14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,215 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,215 Location: Nairobi
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Everybody but the shareholders make money off KQ.
obiero wrote:Signs of life are evident.. Gross profit up 42% +KES10.549B YoY and operating loss position up 76% +KES 12.240B YoY . KQ despite turbulent times remains a bold and treasured brand, African Airline of The Year, Leading Business Class in Africa, delivering 160 landing/takeoffs with uplift of over 10,000 passengers daily covering 54 global destinations. Operation Pride now at 25% of implementation, has achieved 113 improvement activities effected out of a total of 447 specific initiatives. Overall impact being 32% increase on recurrent annual income.. 10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ: 1. End of hedging policy - Banks 2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses - Hotels 3. Rightsizing of the workforce Directors, Staff, etc [and Obiero] 4. Fuel efficient planes Boeing & Embraer 5. Route optimization Staff 6. Category 1 status at main hub KAA/FAA 7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out Banks 8. Sale of non critical assets Brokers 9. Global reduction in fuel costs Banks, Fuel Suppliers 10. Revival in KE tourism Hotels 11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class The only bright spot is JJ 12. Cleaned-up board and management Wapi? Anyway, good luck. 13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers Banks, Financial Advisors 14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers The advisors/consultants
Shareholders?Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,763 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Everybody but the shareholders make money off KQ.
obiero wrote:Signs of life are evident.. Gross profit up 42% +KES10.549B YoY and operating loss position up 76% +KES 12.240B YoY . KQ despite turbulent times remains a bold and treasured brand, African Airline of The Year, Leading Business Class in Africa, delivering 160 landing/takeoffs with uplift of over 10,000 passengers daily covering 54 global destinations. Operation Pride now at 25% of implementation, has achieved 113 improvement activities effected out of a total of 447 specific initiatives. Overall impact being 32% increase on recurrent annual income.. 10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ: 1. End of hedging policy - Banks 2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses - Hotels 3. Rightsizing of the workforce Directors, Staff, etc [and Obiero] 4. Fuel efficient planes Boeing & Embraer 5. Route optimization Staff 6. Category 1 status at main hub KAA/FAA 7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out Banks 8. Sale of non critical assets Brokers 9. Global reduction in fuel costs Banks, Fuel Suppliers 10. Revival in KE tourism Hotels 11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class The only bright spot is JJ 12. Cleaned-up board and management Wapi? Anyway, good luck. 13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers Banks, Financial Advisors 14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers The advisors/consultants
Shareholders? Wait for the H1.. Money is on the way COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,763 Location: nairobi
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LOL COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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