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masukuma
#111 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:15:01 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
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Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
24M range rover those are 24 Mobius trucks. made right here home. invest that money with a local company, more R & D and in 10 years, Mobius would probably produce a car same level as Range Rover, but try explain that to a 'lawyer'

bure kabisa!

surely? Then what will the point be in DBK cannot 'thank himself'?


By bragging to the world? He is just like Donald Trumpamba. Real successful people do things that will change the world and will be remembered for generations to come. Anyway how you behave when you get lots of cash says a lot about you as an individual.


What will you gain to be remembered after you have gone?
You toil your entire poor life so that you will be remembered once departed?
Make no sense to me.
d'oh!

As I hinted... it's about "CULTURE". to some this is important. Has anyone visited the Pyramids, their story is fascinating (depending on who you ask of course). These people were obsessed with death! Building burial chambers for i don't know how long. The Japanese are obsessed with "honor" and would perform "harakiri" to ensure it. Some would sell their mothers down the river to protect their lives. To me all humans are mostly almost the same (except some superficial phenotypical differences) but the human species has not changed fundamentally in like 150-200k days. - what makes a group of people seem "better" than others is CULTURE. CULTURE defines who you are, your worldview, your place in the universe e.t.c. so it's pretty understandable for something like "how one will be remembered" to make sense to one person and make no sense to another.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
AlphDoti
#112 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:31:38 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Lolest! wrote:
harrydre wrote:
24M range rover those are 24 Mobius trucks. made right here home. invest that money with a local company, more R & D and in 10 years, Mobius would probably produce a car same level as Range Rover, but try explain that to a 'lawyer'

bure kabisa!

surely? Then what will the point be in DBK cannot 'thank himself'?

@harrydre, this Mobius truck is sh1M? And I wanted to acquire one for some small errands? Sad Sad Sad
AlphDoti
#113 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:41:04 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
24M range rover those are 24 Mobius trucks. made right here home. invest that money with a local company, more R & D and in 10 years, Mobius would probably produce a car same level as Range Rover, but try explain that to a 'lawyer'

bure kabisa!

surely? Then what will the point be in DBK cannot 'thank himself'?

By bragging to the world? He is just like Donald Trumpamba. Real successful people do things that will change the world and will be remembered for generations to come. Anyway how you behave when you get lots of cash says a lot about you as an individual.

What will you gain to be remembered after you have gone?
You toil your entire poor life so that you will be remembered once departed?
Make no sense to me.
d'oh!

As I hinted... it's about "CULTURE". to some this is important. Has anyone visited the Pyramids, their story is fascinating (depending on who you ask of course). These people were obsessed with death! Building burial chambers for i don't know how long. The Japanese are obsessed with "honor" and would perform "harakiri" to ensure it. Some would sell their mothers down the river to protect their lives. To me all humans are mostly almost the same (except some superficial phenotypical differences) but the human species has not changed fundamentally in like 150-200k days. - what makes a group of people seem "better" than others is CULTURE. CULTURE defines who you are, your worldview, your place in the universe e.t.c. so it's pretty understandable for something like "how one will be remembered" to make sense to one person and make no sense to another.

@masukums has talked some sense!

We have different racing/strivings - to different motives. Some people do one job, another does another different type/path job.

We are all born as little "innocent" babies, and then we are brought up in different environments and cultures. Then we are shattered into pieces - different paths.

People have different or diverse aims in life for which they strive. One might be talking of the pleasures of this world while another may be mindful of what he will leave after his death. No one lives aimlessly, but we should be careful of the way in which we use our "blessings" and powers in order to understand if it is for good or vain.
Taurrus
#114 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:56:41 PM
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Joined: 8/25/2015
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Location: Kite
Wacha nikatafute bandos!
maka
#115 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:05:00 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
harrydre wrote:
24M range rover those are 24 Mobius trucks. made right here home. invest that money with a local company, more R & D and in 10 years, Mobius would probably produce a car same level as Range Rover, but try explain that to a 'lawyer'

bure kabisa!

surely? Then what will the point be in DBK cannot 'thank himself'?

@harrydre, this Mobius truck is sh1M? And I wanted to acquire one for some small errands? Sad Sad Sad


Bro Alph ...you already have a 110 defender or what was it again in other news DBK failed to pay kanjo fees...Sad
possunt quia posse videntur
maka
#116 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:30:22 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
harrydre wrote:
24M range rover those are 24 Mobius trucks. made right here home. invest that money with a local company, more R & D and in 10 years, Mobius would probably produce a car same level as Range Rover, but try explain that to a 'lawyer'

bure kabisa!

surely? Then what will the point be in DBK cannot 'thank himself'?

@harrydre, this Mobius truck is sh1M? And I wanted to acquire one for some small errands? Sad Sad Sad


Bro Alph ...you already have a 110 defender or what was it again in other news DBK failed to pay kanjo fees...Sad



possunt quia posse videntur
Impunity
#117 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:53:20 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
24M range rover those are 24 Mobius trucks. made right here home. invest that money with a local company, more R & D and in 10 years, Mobius would probably produce a car same level as Range Rover, but try explain that to a 'lawyer'

bure kabisa!

surely? Then what will the point be in DBK cannot 'thank himself'?


By bragging to the world? He is just like Donald Trumpamba. Real successful people do things that will change the world and will be remembered for generations to come. Anyway how you behave when you get lots of cash says a lot about you as an individual.


What will you gain to be remembered after you have gone?
You toil your entire poor life so that you will be remembered once departed?
Make no sense to me.
d'oh!

As I hinted... it's about "CULTURE". to some this is important. Has anyone visited the Pyramids, their story is fascinating (depending on who you ask of course). These people were obsessed with death! Building burial chambers for i don't know how long. The Japanese are obsessed with "honor" and would perform "harakiri" to ensure it. Some would sell their mothers down the river to protect their lives. To me all humans are mostly almost the same (except some superficial phenotypical differences) but the human species has not changed fundamentally in like 150-200k days. - what makes a group of people seem "better" than others is CULTURE. CULTURE defines who you are, your worldview, your place in the universe e.t.c. so it's pretty understandable for something like "how one will be remembered" to make sense to one person and make no sense to another.


Really, someone like @Gerishon Kirima (RIP) who toiled whole his life, died at relatively older age but did not "enjoy" fully his weolth as we know it...but people now talk of him "NICELY" as a hard working man who left immense weolth with little formal schooling...now how is this "nice" talking helping him while in sayuni?

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Taurrus
#118 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 6:38:43 PM
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Location: Kite
Nimepata bandos! sasa hio merc ni ya mboch kununua mboga na kadhalika!
masukuma
#119 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 6:56:29 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:

Really, someone like @Gerishon Kirima (RIP) who toiled whole his life, died at relatively older age but did not "enjoy" fully his weolth as we know it...but people now talk of him "NICELY" as a hard working man who left immense weolth with little formal schooling...now how is this "nice" talking helping him while in sayuni?

Here is what you don't realise - your type of thinking is what some people look at africans with and wonder - hawaoni? Hawaoni siri? We are naturally hardworking people but rarely do we work for the next generation (at least some of us). The place of the individual in the grand scheme of things is also defined by culture. Let me ask you - to what benefit is someone comitting suicide in Japanese culture?

A child is born into the world and is taught by his/her environment. So you push against society and society either responds positively or negatively or is indifferent and since we are social beings we do and enforce those things that we learnt society reacts +vely to and shun -vity. In cultures like Jewish cultures that give +ve strokes to person who leave something behind to their children and laugh (-ve strokes) at those who didn't over time have the notion of - "in order for me to be seen and remembered as a great member of society - I need to leave as much as I can to my kids and teach them how to build on it". Let me give you a local example of how our culture changed - P.S. Culture is not traditions (traditions are part of culture). In kenya a long time ago people who worked in gava and retired without stealing would be looked at like fools... it was not uncommon to say "Ona kale kajinga? Kalikuwa wapi wengine wakiJipanga?". What this communicated to people who were coming later was - if you don't want to be the laughing stock - "Jipange". In Luo Nyanza for a long time - if you wanted to be recognized as a proper member of society you needed to have higher education. Cash alone was not enough - a PhD made the society recognize you as a person who had "made it". People were proud to be associated with you. In Central (for sometime), Just having papers was not enough - People who didn't school and made money were treated better that those with papers. There is a saying "Kithomo ti thuruari". In Kikuyu culture a man is frowned upon if he is just in the house! <-- anafanya nini? A pakistani friend of mine came over and she made a note... WHAT ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE DOING OUTSIDE? Huko watu hawatoki tuu sababu ya kutoka! Anyway back to my point. How you @impunity was raised - individualistic logic informs your school of thought... NAWACHIA NANI? I SHOULD ENJOY - HAWA WAJIPANGE! and that is why i put up this video

Most people are intergenerational wealthy - passing it forward!! sisi tunachoma each and everytime, receiving very little and passing on very little. The same thing was happening to us with experience and knowledge - we did not pass it down "efficiently". so each generation relearns some of the stuff. Asians take their kids into their businesses. During holidays hakuna kukaa home - watu wanaenda duka ya baba so that they can learn the trade early. Asians are in the same economy you guys are in! they came here to build railways - not rich but their superior culture lifted their community above local communities. Sisi tunaficha and our kids don't aspire to do what their dad did or bring that education into the business - they start from scratch AGAIN and AGAIN. Each time we are restarting - that is why we are poor... it's not the government! it's because you received very little from your father and you will make it and pass on very little. Looking at it from a macro perspective you can see the wisdom of having a rich society but it does not just happen it's designed and worked at! A society that reinforces these good attributes and despises bad ones survives and becomes richer. Right now... corruption is a culture hapa... get rich or die trying if you wanted to fix it you would shun all ill gotten wealth. Think of a devil worshipper.... refuse their money, don't let your daughters get married to them. e.t.c. (by the way the role of the belief all seeing eye in the sky is important in culture).
I dare say - ALL HUMANS ARE EQUAL BUT CULTURES ARE NOT! the more prosperous a nation is the more superior their culture is (or was) coz it can change and destroy civilization - just ask the romans and the greeks.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#120 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:20:41 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
By the way there is an interesting book here
https://careerlanenigeri...-evans-company-2009.pdf

it has seven keys to Jewish success
1. Understand that real wealth is portable; it's knowledge
2. Take care of your own and they will take care of you
3. Successful people are professionals and entrepreneurs
4. Develop your verbal confidence
5. Be selectively extravagant but prudently frugal
6. Take pride in individuality: encourage creativity
7. Be psychologically driven to prove something

You can learn something from that text.... they are simple things but hard (Simple vis-a-vis Easy).
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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