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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2015 Posts: 233
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So matumbo ndio appetizer naona. Mkifika kwa main dish mmeshiba. Planning to lose opportunities "Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,477
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:mlennyma wrote:http://citizentv.co.ke/business/4-8-million-households-connected-to-electricity-kenya-power-134870/ eeemmmm! where is the news , lol Increased capacity, Huge increase in connected households... Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,717 Location: NAIROBI
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@mlennyama,Maichblack Ata street light is counted as a connection.So if on a highway 15 of them are connected and lit up;those are counted as 15 homes Hizo numbers are so cooked up you won't believe if you go to the details. That is why the numbers are not corresponding to the bottomline/revenue Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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Even in our homestead, we have 4 meters main house ya mbuyu and 3 simbas. Main house is active, simbas are very inactive lakini are counted. Replicate that to Kenya Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,185 Location: nairobi
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Othelo wrote:Even in our homestead, we have 4 meters main house ya mbuyu and 3 simbas. Main house is active, simbas are very inactive lakini are counted. Replicate that to Kenya whatever the argument I consider kpc among the easiest counter that can double to 16 bob,I only need 16 to exit "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,477
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Ericsson wrote:@mlennyama,Maichblack
Ata street light is counted as a connection.So if on a highway 15 of them are connected and lit up;those are counted as 15 homes
Hizo numbers are so cooked up you won't believe if you go to the details.
That is why the numbers are not corresponding to the bottomline/revenue Kuwaga serious @Ericsson!!! Where did you see a single lamp post with it's own meter?? Ama what do you understand "connections" to mean??? Next you will tell us they counted the number of bulbs in our houses!!! Some things you don't even need to argue! Just take a road trip to a random village that did not have electricity 5 years ago. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,477
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Othelo wrote:Even in our homestead, we have 4 meters main house ya mbuyu and 3 simbas. Main house is active, simbas are very inactive lakini are counted. Replicate that to Kenya You guys try so much!!! And not in a nice way. Why would a main house and 3 simbas owned by the same entity have four different meters??? Again, take a road trip to a random village and you will realize the reverse is actually true. Someone gets electricity into his house and then "vutias" his mother (the grandma of the family) and his son who's house is just next to his! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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MaichBlack wrote:Ericsson wrote:@mlennyama,Maichblack
Ata street light is counted as a connection.So if on a highway 15 of them are connected and lit up;those are counted as 15 homes
Hizo numbers are so cooked up you won't believe if you go to the details.
That is why the numbers are not corresponding to the bottomline/revenue Kuwaga serious @Ericsson!!! Where did you see a single lamp post with it's own meter?? Ama what do you understand "connections" to mean??? Next you will tell us they counted the number of bulbs in our houses!!! Some things you don't even need to argue! Just take a road trip to a random village that did not have electricity 5 years ago. MB I think our argument is that the increment in the number of connections will not directly translate to increment in revenues .... profits .... in a proportional manner. Revenues and profits will lag behind .... I hope I make sense  Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,477
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This issue of not letting facts get in the way of a "nice" argument is not nice! Not at all!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,477
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Othelo wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Ericsson wrote:@mlennyama,Maichblack
Ata street light is counted as a connection.So if on a highway 15 of them are connected and lit up;those are counted as 15 homes
Hizo numbers are so cooked up you won't believe if you go to the details.
That is why the numbers are not corresponding to the bottomline/revenue Kuwaga serious @Ericsson!!! Where did you see a single lamp post with it's own meter?? Ama what do you understand "connections" to mean??? Next you will tell us they counted the number of bulbs in our houses!!! Some things you don't even need to argue! Just take a road trip to a random village that did not have electricity 5 years ago. MB I think our argument is that the increment in the number of connections will not directly translate to increment in revenues .... profits .... in a proportional manner. Revenues and profits will lag behind .... I hope I make sense I haven't read that anywhere. It was stated in post #??? If that is what you are saying NOW, it makes a lot of sense - it is actually 100% true. Profits will INCREASE but not by the same margins because you cannot compare the consumption of an industry and that of a home and you cannot compare the consumption of a rural homestead to that of an urban homestead. And of course you cannot compare the consumption of a home in Runda to that in Kibera. Therefore a 60% increase in connections will definitely NOT translate to 60% increase in profits. BUT there will be a increase in profits!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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hisah wrote:At this level KP is testing multi year support zone clustered from 1996, 1999, 2004, 2005 and 2009 (GFC low). Next critical support level is 8.00 handle if this support level fails. Break below that critical support level opens up a nasty air-pocket to crazy lows last seen between 2000 - 2002 period. Testing support at 8.00 handle. Caution.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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Othelo wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Othelo wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:mkate_nusu wrote:KES 8.55 printed. And today I start to nibble at this ' disaster' This one, you take a glance at the CS (C. Keter), MD (B Chumo) GM Corporate (B Meso) GM Finance (K Tarus), ag. GM Audit (C Cheruyoit) and side of coalition (URP) and you know where it is headed!!!! Let us compare notes in 2018!!! Status conference can be held in English, Kiswahili and ............ Good I jumped out when I could (at a loss) Very sad story. Reminds me of the 90s. No wonder the capitulation. This one and simba i'm not touching. @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 345 Location: easto
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Othelo wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Ericsson wrote:@mlennyama,Maichblack
Ata street light is counted as a connection.So if on a highway 15 of them are connected and lit up;those are counted as 15 homes
Hizo numbers are so cooked up you won't believe if you go to the details.
That is why the numbers are not corresponding to the bottomline/revenue Kuwaga serious @Ericsson!!! Where did you see a single lamp post with it's own meter?? Ama what do you understand "connections" to mean??? Next you will tell us they counted the number of bulbs in our houses!!! Some things you don't even need to argue! Just take a road trip to a random village that did not have electricity 5 years ago. MB I think our argument is that the increment in the number of connections will not directly translate to increment in revenues .... profits .... in a proportional manner. Revenues and profits will lag behind .... I hope I make sense KP gets over 60% of its revenue from just about 5000 so called large power customers. Hao wengine 4.795M wanachanga hizo zingine. Now if 1M new connections are guys who pay 200-500 monthly, after huge capital outlay...extra-polate. There should be new industries for that revenue to grow, otherwise there are issues... "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,139 Location: Nairobi
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Most of the new [household] connections consume less than 200KwH and this is subsidized. Look at your bill. We pay much more per unit than they do. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,717 Location: NAIROBI
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Gava should now focus on increasing electricity per capita consumption. Otherwise the massive connections of homes for lighting bulbs will drain KP coz after sometime the lines will need maintenances. The revenue they get won't be able to sustain the maintenance cost. Gava is also shooting KPLC by promoting solar electricity coz this is also killing KP business. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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Ericsson wrote:Gava should now focus on increasing electricity per capita consumption. How?
Otherwise the massive connections of homes for lighting bulbs will drain KP coz after sometime the lines will need maintenances.how are the cause and effect related here?
The revenue they get won't be able to sustain the maintenance cost.cause and effect connection?
Gava is also shooting KPLC by promoting solar electricity coz this is also killing KP business. how do we come to this conclusion?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,185 Location: nairobi
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You can imagine how hardened iam,despite all this noise iam buying to exit at 16 "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/31/2007 Posts: 304
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mlennyma wrote:You can imagine how hardened iam,despite all this noise iam buying to exit at 16 Same here..heavily invested at sub 9..hope am not wrong.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,185 Location: nairobi
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moneydust wrote:mlennyma wrote:You can imagine how hardened iam,despite all this noise iam buying to exit at 16 Same here..heavily invested at sub 9..hope am not wrong. we can't bite the dust trusting wazua so much can make you own nothing "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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mlennyma wrote:moneydust wrote:mlennyma wrote:You can imagine how hardened iam,despite all this noise iam buying to exit at 16 Same here..heavily invested at sub 9..hope am not wrong. we can't bite the dust trusting wazua so much can make you own nothing Still have a stake in this company. Been itching to swing at it but unfortunately a lack of cash means I have not been able to take advantage of the discount served thus far. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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