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Anti_Burglar wrote:Masukuma, what came first the chicken or the egg? What produces what? Data produces the results? Or results produce the data? Are people affected by their type of environment? Or is the environment affected by type of people in it? Your faith is new and your dissonance is remarkable. As for Americans and their elections, I expect a most colourful charade with red, blue and white banners and blimps (of data). If you find them working out issues that matter e.g. world peace etc, give me a jab. Quote:I don't argue with data especially if I don't have any on my hands and I cannot touch the said object of discussion/argument. The above statement, I will hopefully revisit it somewhere else where I will more deftly use it against you. data comes from "measurement"! plain and simple! that is why I am saying that if you haven't measured anything you cannot claim that what someone else has measured and provided results for is wrong! pima yako... leta data we compare and if i am wrong I eat humble pie. criticize the measurement tool, the process used. the sampling. By the way - if you haven't noticed yet - I don't have a problem having what I said a long time ago being used against me. Humble pies are there to be eaten. I believe a future version of myself is wiser than me now. So you are welcome to use it against me... i don't have the burden to be consistent across time as if I am all knowing. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Masukuma, what came first the chicken or the egg? What produces what? Data produces the results? Or results produce the data? Are people affected by their type of environment? Or is the environment affected by type of people in it? Your faith is new and your dissonance is remarkable. As for Americans and their elections, I expect a most colourful charade with red, blue and white banners and blimps (of data). If you find them working out issues that matter e.g. world peace etc, give me a jab. Quote:I don't argue with data especially if I don't have any on my hands and I cannot touch the said object of discussion/argument. The above statement, I will hopefully revisit it somewhere else where I will more deftly use it against you. data comes from "measurement"! plain and simple! that is why I am saying that if you haven't measured anything you cannot claim that what someone else has measured and provided results for is wrong! pima yako... leta data we compare and if i am wrong I eat humble pie. criticize the measurement tool, the process used. the sampling. By the way - if you haven't noticed yet - I don't have a problem having what I said a long time ago being used against me. Humble pies are there to be eaten. I believe a future version of myself is wiser than me now. So you are welcome to use it against me... i don't have the burden to be consistent across time as if I am all knowing. Ok. Will do. But you have not really measured anything. You are just posting what others have claimed to measured and saying you will not question it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Masukuma, what came first the chicken or the egg? What produces what? Data produces the results? Or results produce the data? Are people affected by their type of environment? Or is the environment affected by type of people in it? Your faith is new and your dissonance is remarkable. As for Americans and their elections, I expect a most colourful charade with red, blue and white banners and blimps (of data). If you find them working out issues that matter e.g. world peace etc, give me a jab. Quote:I don't argue with data especially if I don't have any on my hands and I cannot touch the said object of discussion/argument. The above statement, I will hopefully revisit it somewhere else where I will more deftly use it against you. data comes from "measurement"! plain and simple! that is why I am saying that if you haven't measured anything you cannot claim that what someone else has measured and provided results for is wrong! pima yako... leta data we compare and if i am wrong I eat humble pie. criticize the measurement tool, the process used. the sampling. By the way - if you haven't noticed yet - I don't have a problem having what I said a long time ago being used against me. Humble pies are there to be eaten. I believe a future version of myself is wiser than me now. So you are welcome to use it against me... i don't have the burden to be consistent across time as if I am all knowing. Ok. Will do. But you have not really measured anything. You are just posting what others have claimed to measured and saying you will not question it. When the going gets tough, he always hides behind "data". It's a nice escape strategy to save face.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Masukuma, what came first the chicken or the egg? What produces what? Data produces the results? Or results produce the data? Are people affected by their type of environment? Or is the environment affected by type of people in it? Your faith is new and your dissonance is remarkable. As for Americans and their elections, I expect a most colourful charade with red, blue and white banners and blimps (of data). If you find them working out issues that matter e.g. world peace etc, give me a jab. Quote:I don't argue with data especially if I don't have any on my hands and I cannot touch the said object of discussion/argument. The above statement, I will hopefully revisit it somewhere else where I will more deftly use it against you. data comes from "measurement"! plain and simple! that is why I am saying that if you haven't measured anything you cannot claim that what someone else has measured and provided results for is wrong! pima yako... leta data we compare and if i am wrong I eat humble pie. criticize the measurement tool, the process used. the sampling. By the way - if you haven't noticed yet - I don't have a problem having what I said a long time ago being used against me. Humble pies are there to be eaten. I believe a future version of myself is wiser than me now. So you are welcome to use it against me... i don't have the burden to be consistent across time as if I am all knowing. Ok. Will do. But you have not really measured anything. You are just posting what others have claimed to measured and saying you will not question it. When the going gets tough, he always hides behind "data". It's a nice escape strategy to save face. sisi wote tumeketi hapa - I am pointing at data measured by others, you are pointing at nothing. it's not a strategy to save face - it's the foundation of my decision making process and philosophy. Na data ni mingi http://www.realclearpoli...com/epolls/latest_polls/All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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You have never been middle class your whole entire life.you know nothing about it.no wonder you took advantage of middle class families losing houses in Detroit and claim you did it because your were businessman.Why teach me how to be a parent and you have no kids of your own?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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enyands wrote:You have never been middle class your whole entire life.you know nothing about it.no wonder you took advantage of middle class families losing houses in Detroit and claim you did it because your were businessman.Why teach me how to be a parent and you have no kids of your own? Eish! Dude, you are taking this way, way too serious. Hii yako might be a very dangerous and unhealthy obsession. Yet you might make some sense if only you were American. Are you American?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Anti_Burglar wrote:enyands wrote:You have never been middle class your whole entire life.you know nothing about it.no wonder you took advantage of middle class families losing houses in Detroit and claim you did it because your were businessman.Why teach me how to be a parent and you have no kids of your own? Eish! Dude, you are taking this way, way too serious. Hii yako might be a very dangerous and unhealthy obsession. Yet you might make some sense if only you were American. Are you American? i think enyands is a 'she' who has lived quite a bit in the US. I could be wrong! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:enyands wrote:You have never been middle class your whole entire life.you know nothing about it.no wonder you took advantage of middle class families losing houses in Detroit and claim you did it because your were businessman.Why teach me how to be a parent and you have no kids of your own? Eish! Dude, you are taking this way, way too serious. Hii yako might be a very dangerous and unhealthy obsession. Yet you might make some sense if only you were American. Are you American? i think enyands is a 'she' who has lived quite a bit in the US. I could be wrong! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:enyands wrote:You have never been middle class your whole entire life.you know nothing about it.no wonder you took advantage of middle class families losing houses in Detroit and claim you did it because your were businessman.Why teach me how to be a parent and you have no kids of your own? Eish! Dude, you are taking this way, way too serious. Hii yako might be a very dangerous and unhealthy obsession. Yet you might make some sense if only you were American. Are you American? You made my morning
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