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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,190 Location: Nairobi
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I have flown Rwandair on multiple occasions and IMHO the iCandy is  vs KQ. Just saying. The same goes for Emirates, Etihad and Ethiopian. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:I have flown Rwandair on multiple occasions and IMHO the iCandy is vs KQ. Just saying. The same goes for Emirates, Etihad and Ethiopian. Thats exactly what the Rwandese say about Kenyans  In other confirmed news, expect an improved loss of KES 5.7B in H1 for KQ.. Will avail the detailed forecast at end of next month
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/22/2011 Posts: 561 Location: House
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This thing at this rate should be closed.
Their flight delays and cancellations are out of this world. I have been delayed 50% of the time i have been booked on KQ (and i travel quite a lot) but only about 10% of the other airlines.
Like now i had a 7.30pm flight to JKIA but just received an alert: flight delayed by 2hrs 20min.....2hrs what the f*ck
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Ngogoyo wrote:This thing at this rate should be closed.
Their flight delays and cancellations are out of this world. I have been delayed 50% of the time i have been booked on KQ (and i travel quite a lot) but only about 10% of the other airlines.
Like now i had a 7.30pm flight to JKIA but just received an alert: flight delayed by 2hrs 20min.....2hrs what the f*ck IMO, 2hrs is better. Due to the accident at DXB, no flights were allowed to land there and might have affected last night KQ flight and had an impact on their schedule.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,190 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:Ngogoyo wrote:This thing at this rate should be closed.
Their flight delays and cancellations are out of this world. I have been delayed 50% of the time i have been booked on KQ (and i travel quite a lot) but only about 10% of the other airlines.
Like now i had a 7.30pm flight to JKIA but just received an alert: flight delayed by 2hrs 20min.....2hrs what the f*ck IMO, 2hrs is better. Due to the accident at DXB, no flights were allowed to land there and might have affected last night KQ flight and had an impact on their schedule. Unless @Ngogoyo is flying from/via DXB, why should any other flights of KQ be affected? @Ngogoyo - Where's your flight coming from? What's the routing? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ngogoyo wrote:This thing at this rate should be closed.
Their flight delays and cancellations are out of this world. I have been delayed 50% of the time i have been booked on KQ (and i travel quite a lot) but only about 10% of the other airlines.
Like now i had a 7.30pm flight to JKIA but just received an alert: flight delayed by 2hrs 20min.....2hrs what the f*ck IMO, 2hrs is better. Due to the accident at DXB, no flights were allowed to land there and might have affected last night KQ flight and had an impact on their schedule. Unless @Ngogoyo is flying from/via DXB, why should any other flights of KQ be affected? @Ngogoyo - Where's your flight coming from? What's the routing? KQ as it is currently has very few planes. Any delay affecting a single plane will manifest in the whole schedule.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I have flown Rwandair on multiple occasions and IMHO the iCandy is vs KQ. Just saying. The same goes for Emirates, Etihad and Ethiopian. Thats exactly what the Rwandese say about Kenyans In other confirmed news, expect an improved loss of KES 5.7B in H1 for KQ.. Will avail the detailed forecast at end of next month I believe Saturday or Sunday can't remember when exactly they uplifted the highest number of passengers this year... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,190 Location: Nairobi
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We used to love KQ... We rallied around KQ after the Abuja & Cameroon crashes. Would we do the same today? Interesting article. http://www.businessdaily...29232-ru7uu7z/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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[quote=VituVingiSana]We used to love KQ... We rallied around KQ after the Abuja & Cameroon crashes. Would we do the same today? Interesting article. http://www.businessdaily...9232-ru7uu7z/index.html[/quote] KQ is the company being referred to in that article.. A bullet proof brand loved by many despite robust media attempts to kill it
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I have flown Rwandair on multiple occasions and IMHO the iCandy is vs KQ. Just saying. The same goes for Emirates, Etihad and Ethiopian. Thats exactly what the Rwandese say about Kenyans In other confirmed news, expect an improved loss of KES 5.7B in H1 for KQ.. Will avail the detailed forecast at end of next month I believe Saturday or Sunday can't remember when exactly they uplifted the highest number of passengers this year... Who are we referring to KQ or the other airline
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,190 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]We used to love KQ... We rallied around KQ after the Abuja & Cameroon crashes. Would we do the same today? Interesting article. http://www.businessdaily...9232-ru7uu7z/index.html[/quote] KQ is the company being referred to in that article.. A bullet proof brand loved by many despite robust media attempts to kill it Yes, the media is to blame. They report flight delays, potential strikes by pilots, losses in the 25bn+ range. It is a vendetta the media has against loss-making entities that are funded by the taxpayer. The media should be muzzled. It should only report on the excellent service that is not provided. The flights that fly on time. The revenues and not the expenses. The reduction in fuel costs but not the losses on hedges. Then the CEOs, CFOs and COOs of KQ should be given presidential medals of honor for running the airline into the ground. We should be proud of mediocre performance as Kenyans and the media should celebrate that! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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[quote=VituVingiSana]We used to love KQ... We rallied around KQ after the Abuja & Cameroon crashes. Would we do the same today? Interesting article. http://www.businessdaily...9232-ru7uu7z/index.html[/quote] Not Abuja, it was Douala and Abidjan. The crashes were suspicious. KQ Douala crash stands out as the B737-800 was just 6 months old. Infact, some families have sued Boeing. Quote:There has also been considerable disquiet about the investigation, which is being carried out by a team drawn from Kenya, representing the airline, Cameroon, where the accident happened, and the United States, the country where the plane was built. http://www.telegraph.co....er-Kenya-air-crash.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I have flown Rwandair on multiple occasions and IMHO the iCandy is vs KQ. Just saying. The same goes for Emirates, Etihad and Ethiopian. Thats exactly what the Rwandese say about Kenyans In other confirmed news, expect an improved loss of KES 5.7B in H1 for KQ.. Will avail the detailed forecast at end of next month I believe Saturday or Sunday can't remember when exactly they uplifted the highest number of passengers this year... Who are we referring to KQ or the other airline KQ possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I have flown Rwandair on multiple occasions and IMHO the iCandy is vs KQ. Just saying. The same goes for Emirates, Etihad and Ethiopian. Thats exactly what the Rwandese say about Kenyans In other confirmed news, expect an improved loss of KES 5.7B in H1 for KQ.. Will avail the detailed forecast at end of next month I believe Saturday or Sunday can't remember when exactly they uplifted the highest number of passengers this year... Who are we referring to KQ or the other airline KQ @maka So it means things are starting to change for the better?
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]We used to love KQ... We rallied around KQ after the Abuja & Cameroon crashes. Would we do the same today? Interesting article. http://www.businessdaily...9232-ru7uu7z/index.html[/quote] KQ is the company being referred to in that article.. A bullet proof brand loved by many despite robust media attempts to kill it Yes, the media is to blame. They report flight delays, potential strikes by pilots, losses in the 25bn+ range. It is a vendetta the media has against loss-making entities that are funded by the taxpayer. The media should be muzzled. It should only report on the excellent service that is not provided. The flights that fly on time. The revenues and not the expenses. The reduction in fuel costs but not the losses on hedges. Then the CEOs, CFOs and COOs of KQ should be given presidential medals of honor for running the airline into the ground. We should be proud of mediocre performance as Kenyans and the media should celebrate that! Indeed that would be a good start. The media should refer more to the positives
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]We used to love KQ... We rallied around KQ after the Abuja & Cameroon crashes. Would we do the same today? Interesting article. http://www.businessdaily...9232-ru7uu7z/index.html[/quote] KQ is the company being referred to in that article.. A bullet proof brand loved by many despite robust media attempts to kill it Yes, the media is to blame. They report flight delays, potential strikes by pilots, losses in the 25bn+ range. It is a vendetta the media has against loss-making entities that are funded by the taxpayer. The media should be muzzled. It should only report on the excellent service that is not provided. The flights that fly on time. The revenues and not the expenses. The reduction in fuel costs but not the losses on hedges. Then the CEOs, CFOs and COOs of KQ should be given presidential medals of honor for running the airline into the ground. We should be proud of mediocre performance as Kenyans and the media should celebrate that! Indeed that would be a good start. The media should refer more to the positives That's an irony. These cartels should be exposed. Is it the media that ask the cartels to run down the govt controlled entities? They line their pockets,invest in real estate to the detriment of critical sectors of the economy and yet you still advocate for total ban on media coverage?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]We used to love KQ... We rallied around KQ after the Abuja & Cameroon crashes. Would we do the same today? Interesting article. http://www.businessdaily...9232-ru7uu7z/index.html[/quote] KQ is the company being referred to in that article.. A bullet proof brand loved by many despite robust media attempts to kill it Yes, the media is to blame. They report flight delays, potential strikes by pilots, losses in the 25bn+ range. It is a vendetta the media has against loss-making entities that are funded by the taxpayer. The media should be muzzled. It should only report on the excellent service that is not provided. The flights that fly on time. The revenues and not the expenses. The reduction in fuel costs but not the losses on hedges. Then the CEOs, CFOs and COOs of KQ should be given presidential medals of honor for running the airline into the ground. We should be proud of mediocre performance as Kenyans and the media should celebrate that! Indeed that would be a good start. The media should refer more to the positives That's an irony. These cartels should be exposed. Is it the media that ask the cartels to run down the govt controlled entities? They line their pockets,invest in real estate to the detriment of critical sectors of the economy and yet you still advocate for total ban on media coverage? Times are changing. KQ will shock many here.. Only one full month to go in H1..
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:My friends that will never happen. If you knew who owns Ambosseli and Savannah, then you wouldn't entertain such reckless dreams Tell us. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Spikes wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:majimaji wrote:
How is it that an insolvent company KQ is still listed and trading?
The authorities are sleeping on the job. I agree it is insolvent. Do you expect Kenyan securities exchange authorities to delist KQ? Which image will it send locally and internationally? Mtangoja sana KQ iwe scrapped off the NSE trading. It will never happen in Kenyan soil. Though the price will keep moving down to 50CTS. Stock trading suspension can be done.It is not de-listing. The problem is that KQ stock is cross-listed on the USE, RSE and Dar es Salaam Stock Exchange. Authorities there can suspend trading and it will trigger action by NSE. If the loss next year will still be huge then anything can happen. Hakuna stori ya kusema eti mtangoja. Probably if Raila was president that would work, but not under this regime.. GoK is KQ and KQ is GoK. Our neighbors would dare not suspend it, they are alert to the political ramification. Plus as I have said here severally, airlines across the world run frequently on negative equity but that does not intrinsically imply that the carriers are insolvent. Personally I would rather walk to Rwanda than have to fly Rwandair in the abscense of KQ Do not be too optimistic. Anything can happen. There is nothing like political ramifications. Just hold your horses. They are closely watching KQ already. If we are discussing here to such a great extent then what about them. In Dec. 15, the below article was published in Tanzania. Quote:Orbit Securities Limited General Manager, Mr Simon Juventus said in Dar es Salaam yesterday that the two companies’ adverse balance sheets are bad news that will hurt their share trading at the equity markets. http://www.dailynews.co....ncial-challenges-deepen
If the Govt of Kenya loves KQ so much, let them buy it (nationalise) and make it a parastatal in the Ministry of Culture and Social Services. No amount of taxpayer money pumped in will revive KQ to operate and make money for its shareholders like a private business. The way KQ is operating now is like the way a family has a pet: seeing it gives pleasure but you can't milk a cat.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/22/2011 Posts: 561 Location: House
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VituVingiSana wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ngogoyo wrote:This thing at this rate should be closed.
Their flight delays and cancellations are out of this world. I have been delayed 50% of the time i have been booked on KQ (and i travel quite a lot) but only about 10% of the other airlines.
Like now i had a 7.30pm flight to JKIA but just received an alert: flight delayed by 2hrs 20min.....2hrs what the f*ck IMO, 2hrs is better. Due to the accident at DXB, no flights were allowed to land there and might have affected last night KQ flight and had an impact on their schedule. Unless @Ngogoyo is flying from/via DXB, why should any other flights of KQ be affected? @Ngogoyo - Where's your flight coming from? What's the routing? Just next door neighbor ET. So KQ should not be affected by the DXB incident. wish i had taken ET return. I took ET for JKIA/ADDIS but decided to take KQ for Addis/JKIA because it had better timing. ...ole wangu! 
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