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Law Capping interest rates
MaichBlack
#141 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:03:15 AM
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newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you hear the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Swenani
#142 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:26:37 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"



@MB, Wazuans are too average to understand macro economics
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Swenani
#143 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:31:06 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I keep reading people here arguing for protecting banks and just laugh.

Could someone check what the average interest rate in Japan is and compare that with the size of their banks, what about US and Europe. Banks in Kenya will continue making profits same way other banks are making elsewhere in the world with interest rate margins of 2 or even less.

Pass the bill so we can get rid of some of these ponzi and pyramid schemes masquerading as banks.


you cant just compare kenyan banks with banks in developed economies...It's like comparing a dick to an airport
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Obi 1 Kanobi
#144 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:51:06 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
MaichBlack
#145 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:38:44 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Othelo
#146 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 1:11:26 PM
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Willing buyer, willing seller!!! Who forces people to put money in a bank account and nobody is forced to take loans!!! Let banks be smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
sparkly
#147 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 3:30:00 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.


Look at the bigger picture boss. The bigger picture is that GOK has the absolute prerogative to make laws regulating anything and everything within the constitution. If a bank doesn't like it, it can go do business elsewhere.
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MaichBlack
#148 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 3:58:45 PM
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sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.


Look at the bigger picture boss. The bigger picture is that GOK has the absolute prerogative to make laws regulating anything and everything within the constitution. If a bank doesn't like it, it can go do business elsewhere.

Woi!!! GFF!!!

Welcome Communism
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Othelo
#149 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:02:21 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.


Look at the bigger picture boss. The bigger picture is that GOK has the absolute prerogative to make laws regulating anything and everything within the constitution. If a bank doesn't like it, it can go do business elsewhere.

Woi!!! GFF!!!

Welcome Communism

So after banks who will be regulate next, supermarkets. This thing will backfire big time. Let us wait and see. smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Othelo
#150 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:05:08 PM
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Our problem is lack of information flow to help us make informed decisions and choices. A person opens an account in bank x and wants all services from there. We need to shop around all the time and make informed decisions.
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
MaichBlack
#151 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:06:24 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Willing buyer, willing seller!!! Who forces people to put money in a bank account and nobody is forced to take loans!!! Let banks be smile

Umegonga ndipo!!!

Who owes anyone alone. If loans are too expensive, "washana naye"!! If the bank is not paying you enough interest on your deposits, chukua pesa yako!!!

Problem solved!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#152 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:15:16 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,452
Othelo wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.


Look at the bigger picture boss. The bigger picture is that GOK has the absolute prerogative to make laws regulating anything and everything within the constitution. If a bank doesn't like it, it can go do business elsewhere.

Woi!!! GFF!!!

Welcome Communism

So after banks who will be regulate next, supermarkets. This thing will backfire big time. Let us wait and see. smile

Now that Kenyans are suffering, I guess we will have to regulate food prices, rent, transport, school fees, clothes, doctor fees, medicine, dowry and I'm sure @Swenani and @Impunity will want landing fees controlled. Actually @Impunity has already complained about the cost of landing gear equipment on this thread.

Nilikuwa nimesahau beds, blankets, diapers, day care, house girl salaries, Dstv, Sportpesa etc.

We have to make sure Kenyans don't suffer!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
tom_boy
#153 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:12:39 PM
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I have always wondered, why lend to someone who is at high risk of default and then charge them a high interest rate and argue its because they are high risk. Defeats logic.

Interest rate controll will bring about economic growth. Many are the businesses that qualify for good loans but they do not borrow because the interest rates do not make economic sense. I believe the amount of business that banks forego by charging high rates is much much more than the the money lost in bad loans. Many are the individuals who are a good credit risk but will not dare touch a mortgage due to the high rates. If rates came down, such arguements like mortgage vs build would disappear. Mortgage accounts would suddenly increase, construction would pick up, SMEs will expand and soak in any jobs lost in banks right sizing and bankers will be forced to stop their very lazy approach to lending where they try to fit all borrowers into a mould.

Infact, the growth of mobile lending has adversly affected our economy. Banks would rathet lend to mama mboga type businesses via mobile and spread 1b sh across 2 million accounts at 5% a month than lend the same 1b to 100 SMEs, so they maintain the SME interest at very high levels to discourage borrowing. The SMEs are the engine to grow our economy while mama mboga will hardly ever break the ceiling to become an SME. This is economic sabotage!

This bill is good for Kenya. I doubt it will see the light of day though, mainly because of vested interests.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
tom_boy
#154 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:16:24 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.


@maichblack, you would evidently make a very bad economist.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
tom_boy
#155 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:30:03 PM
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Joined: 2/20/2007
Posts: 767
MaichBlack wrote:
Othelo wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bankers here are scaremongering.I want to get that 7% on my deposit.the banks won't refuse to take my cash deposits by setting unreasonable rules, the ceo of the bank will be Put inside for going against the law

As @mlennyma is saying, Kenyans are a bloody lazy lot!!! Why don't you think of ways you can profitably deploy your money! Were you forced to put it in the bank??? You want to deposit your money in the bank let someone else do all the work and take all the risks and give you a risk free 7% as you sit on your lazy a$$??

Even the bank will not be able to make that much despite all the work and risks! Issue loans @ 14.5% and give you 7%?? Difference? 7.5%! Now subtract all the costs from rent to salaries to marketing to validation of security to following up defaulters etc. etc. What remains??

And to make matters worse, with inflation in Kenya being at 5.xy, it means banks will be doing absolute ZERO work - if not negative!!!

Finance and Economics should be made compulsory up to form 2 at least! Not that the issue at hand needs any advanced knowledge but the arguments show how badly we are doing in financial literacy. And this is Wazua. Wait until you go to the streets and villages and you here the reasoning.

Reminds me when Kibera residents were told to pay "what the can afford" as rent. And as if that was not bad enough, one fellow appeared on TV saying "Tuliambiwa tulipe ile tunaweza afford. Ambapo ni bure!!!"


Eish Bro, you are really freaking outLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Economics and free markets were not invented in Kenya. You need to expand your horizon and see how other countries practice the same.

Fact is all this free markets economics is not working in Kenya and a solution is needed that does not include maintaining the status quo.

I kid you not @Obi. Even when T Bills were at double digits, most Kenyans were too lazy to open an account and buy and left the money lying in a Bank account somewhere earning 2% then complain to whoever was willing to listen.

Let people think and put in some work - physical or mental - if they want to earn a coin.


Look at the bigger picture boss. The bigger picture is that GOK has the absolute prerogative to make laws regulating anything and everything within the constitution. If a bank doesn't like it, it can go do business elsewhere.

Woi!!! GFF!!!

Welcome Communism

So after banks who will be regulate next, supermarkets. This thing will backfire big time. Let us wait and see. smile

Now that Kenyans are suffering, I guess we will have to regulate food prices, rent, transport, school fees, clothes, doctor fees, medicine, dowry and I'm sure @Swenani and @Impunity will want landing fees controlled. Actually @Impunity has already complained about the cost of landing gear equipment on this thread.

Nilikuwa nimesahau beds, blankets, diapers, day care, house girl salaries, Dstv, Sportpesa etc.

We have to make sure Kenyans don't suffer!!!


In India, which is a much bigger economy than ours, all essential commodities have a maximum retail price, regulated by government. This idea of free for all eonomics is a creation of Bretton woods during Moi's time and it has ruined us and only served to increase the rich - poor gap.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
Baratang
#156 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 6:18:57 PM
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About financials, I know nothing much except adding and subtracting moneya and calculations on simple and compound interest. The rest, totally blank.
Could someone educate me on this;
In january to march 2015 the interest rates were in the region of 13% to 16% and the major banks posted more than kshs 5 billion in profits. So did the small financial institutions make huge profits. Right now, the interest rates are at 26%, so I expect the big banks to make at least kshs 7 to 9 billion in profits! According to the banks association capping the rate to 14.5% will be disastrous to the economy yet in 2015 when the interest rate was 14% there was nothing like economic disaster. I feel some idiot is pulling my leg!
The association is also telling us that capping the interest rate at 14.5% the SME becomes more risky to lend money to. Here someone tell me, is it more risky to lend money to SMEs at 14.5% or at 26%? Also are we having more people borrowing at 26% as compared to 14.5%? The association also claimed that capping the interest rates at 14.5% may scare away potential investors. I ask, who are those investors who are scared by low interests rates, apart from the banks themselves? Eish!!
I believe more than 70% of the banks are owned by foreigners who do not care if you are milked dry or bleed to death through these astronomical interest rates.
Don't bash me because of the outrageous reasoning, I am not educated on matters financials or economics.
alutacontinua
#157 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 6:58:16 PM
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Here is a link to the 2015 Bank Supervision Annual Report

https://centralbank.go.k...pervision-annual-report

Banks made 61% of their income from interest on loans, 14.8% from GoK securities and 9% from fees and commissions. I can see why banks are anxious about the bill.....
You dont have to be great to START but you have to start to be GREAT!!!!!!!!
DtheK
#158 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:34:18 PM
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Our Saccos operate on this model,lending at about 12% and paying around 7% for deposits.The better managed ones thrive and have grown year on year.CFC is already offering 7% on savings accounts with deposit above 5,000.00 and they are doing fine.
If M.Pigs want to bring down cost of credit they should try pushing the government to better use tools it has in its control I'm thinking expanding youth fund,SME and women fund and stopping their looting.
And what about implementing that mobile-based system treasury was going to borrow through?
Don't forget whose family owns M-shwari/C.B.A, do you seriously expect that person to cap interest rates?I would be pleasantly surprised.
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