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Alba
#21 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:29:31 PM
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Shak wrote:
I have interacted with a number of school heads before in the management of Cdf funded construction projects and I'm amazed at how shady they are in their dealings. I have seen such a level of greed and opaqueness with several school heads that I was shocked that these are the people guiding our children. Their level of culpability in these fires needs to be thoroughly investigated



Its Kenya people. headmasters like other Kenyan civil servants must eat or be left behind. This has been happening since the 1970s when headmasters started taking bribes from parents in order to let people into the school through the back door. I used to be amazed when I saw students who had flunked KCPE very badly end up at Alliance and Lenana

There was a headmaster of Jamhuri who used to take in approximately 50 backdoor students every year. He became wealthy very quickly.

And No expecting them to be investigated is not reasonable in Kenya. How do you investigate headmasters when everyone else in the government is also corrupt?
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tycho
#22 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 7:49:01 AM
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Given that most if not all of the reasons cited for these cases of arson and rebellion are not new, it may be that the cause of these cases is a change in conditions. That is, the conditions that allowed a general acceptance of authority are no longer valid.

Case in point is when the cabinet secretary went to a certain school and threatened students with dire action if they protested, only to have them protest after his departure in the dramatic fashion of arson...

Is there a global trend in a general distrust for authority? I believe so. Cases of lone wolf attacks around the world may indicate a general trend that may also include Kenya.

Maybe the investigations into these cases need a multi-disciplinary approach rather than a purely criminal approach which may only yield plea bargains, false confessions and bungled cases.
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Impunity
#23 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 9:23:12 AM
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Suppose we let the teachers burn all the schools, what wil they gain?
Suppose the CS refuse them to eat the school money.
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T-Bag
#24 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 9:53:56 AM
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Students of Darajani Secondary School in Kibwezi have convened an assembly and summoned the teachers. They have told the teachers that today is their closing date and they do not intend to sit for the exams scheduled for next week. That the teachers should appreciate that they have not burnt or destroyed any property. Then they have closed the school officially and asked a teacher to move a vote of thanks to them for being good students. Then they have marched out of the gate and gone home. Talk of guts!
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kayhara
#25 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 10:07:34 AM
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I studied in Nyahururu High school, we went on strike(we stroke) several times we broke window panes but never burnt, seems the kids have upgraded,
but sources say it's the head teacher who arranged for the burning, to hide some cash mis-use, see every time kids go on strike they report back with a fine say 2000-5000 per student, for Nyahururu the population is about 850 kids that's 4.5 million accountable only to the head teacher and the board, who cover the hole they made, and note they are the contractors the suppliers of the repairs to be done.
To Each His Own
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hardwood
#26 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 10:15:15 AM
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T-Bag wrote:
Students of Darajani Secondary School in Kibwezi have convened an assembly and summoned the teachers. They have told the teachers that today is their closing date and they do not intend to sit for the exams scheduled for next week. That the teachers should appreciate that they have not burnt or destroyed any property. Then they have closed the school officially and asked a teacher to move a vote of thanks to them for being good students. Then they have marched out of the gate and gone home. Talk of guts!


Discipline starts at home. When you see this kind of misbehavior, it just shows how parents have failed in their duties.
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tycho
#27 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 10:21:05 AM
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hardwood wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
Students of Darajani Secondary School in Kibwezi have convened an assembly and summoned the teachers. They have told the teachers that today is their closing date and they do not intend to sit for the exams scheduled for next week. That the teachers should appreciate that they have not burnt or destroyed any property. Then they have closed the school officially and asked a teacher to move a vote of thanks to them for being good students. Then they have marched out of the gate and gone home. Talk of guts!


Discipline starts at home. When you see this kind of misbehavior, it just shows how parents have failed in their duties.


It may be a good thing that parents have failed to discharge of their 'colonial' and 'oppressive' duties. And children are trying to find a way to survive by trying to think for themselves...
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Anti_Burglar
#28 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 10:44:29 AM
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tycho wrote:
Given that most if not all of the reasons cited for these cases of arson and rebellion are not new, it may be that the cause of these cases is a change in conditions. That is, the conditions that allowed a general acceptance of authority are no longer valid.

Case in point is when the cabinet secretary went to a certain school and threatened students with dire action if they protested, only to have them protest after his departure in the dramatic fashion of arson...

Is there a global trend in a general distrust for authority? I believe so. Cases of lone wolf attacks around the world may indicate a general trend that may also include Kenya.

Maybe the investigations into these cases need a multi-disciplinary approach rather than a purely criminal approach which may only yield plea bargains, false confessions and bungled cases.



You have not thought what you have said well. Ati because the conditions that allowed a general acceptance of authority are no longer valid and so that is why after the threat of dire consequences they protested in a dramatic fashion of arson. I'm sure they are experiencing or will certainly experience those threatened dire consequences. That they did what they did in no way negates the authority they thumbed their noses at or makes it less potent.
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hardwood
#29 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 10:48:09 AM
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tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
Students of Darajani Secondary School in Kibwezi have convened an assembly and summoned the teachers. They have told the teachers that today is their closing date and they do not intend to sit for the exams scheduled for next week. That the teachers should appreciate that they have not burnt or destroyed any property. Then they have closed the school officially and asked a teacher to move a vote of thanks to them for being good students. Then they have marched out of the gate and gone home. Talk of guts!


Discipline starts at home. When you see this kind of misbehavior, it just shows how parents have failed in their duties.


It may be a good thing that parents have failed to discharge of their 'colonial' and 'oppressive' duties. And children are trying to find a way to survive by trying to think for themselves...


I strongly support Matiangi when he says that students/parents must pay for the damage caused and that no student will be allowed to transfer from a school he has burnt. This is the best way to teach students that choices have consequences. Mtoto asipofunzwa na mamake hufunzwa na ulimwengu.
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masukuma
#30 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00:06 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Mtoto asipofunzwa na mamake hufunzwa na ulimwengu.

more like 'Mtoto asipofunzwa na mamake, yeye na mamaye hufunzwa na ulimwengu.'
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