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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
sparkly
#5101 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:55:31 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point

@Obiero - On Wednesday, you stated that come what may, you cannot accept anything below 12/= on your KQ shares. Next morning you are selling at 4.50/=

You really need to reevaluate your source of "inside information".

Link: @Obiero not accepting anything below Kshs. 12/= on KQ shares - see post #4917


I have tried to expose this conman and his ways. If there are still some who believe him... Washindwe.

But why does your mother trust me with extreme sensitive areas. I am a noble man

Have some class @Obiero. Surely!!?? This kind of language is beneath even a class 3 drop out!!!

You cannot use such language any a here let alone in Wazua.

So conman and shit can be used freely but not trust and sensitive

@obiero do not abuse ur elderliness and use ur membership age as a delimiter of savoryness. kuona urimu tigu gukura ugi.

Negwo mani..

how can u do dat, just lyq dat.
Br kudos for that swift acrobatism. hii peso Ni yako. again its wise to follow warren buffets time proven adage, do not invest your peso in loss making monkies, despite how yappy @obiro may be.
duration from this day 22 to (shares traded)
22. 8792900
14. 7904400
9 7634600 kurakithwa tugi nayo, nakula kwa macho
8. 1422500
7. 1322400

KES 708,845 ready for trade plus an additional KES 25,000 in additional funds.. Order for purchase of 175,000 KQ shares placed


Better use that 700K to buy some kwota acre in Kamulu and hold for 3 years and sell at tripple the aomunt...KQ will still be sub 2 bob in 3 years plus naught dividend in the period.

@impunity 96% of my portfolio is on real estate with respective units spread over different income segments. I am hesitant to buy more property



@obiero now you can see meltdown has begun showing up!

I placed part of my purchase instruction at KES 3.85.. Got significant traction at KES 3.90. Buying the fear


You reckon KQ is suffering a temporary falling out of favour or a permanent deterioration of fundamentals?
Life is short. Live passionately.
mlennyma
#5102 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:05:54 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/21/2010
Posts: 6,191
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point

@Obiero - On Wednesday, you stated that come what may, you cannot accept anything below 12/= on your KQ shares. Next morning you are selling at 4.50/=

You really need to reevaluate your source of "inside information".

Link: @Obiero not accepting anything below Kshs. 12/= on KQ shares - see post #4917


I have tried to expose this conman and his ways. If there are still some who believe him... Washindwe.

But why does your mother trust me with extreme sensitive areas. I am a noble man

Have some class @Obiero. Surely!!?? This kind of language is beneath even a class 3 drop out!!!

You cannot use such language any a here let alone in Wazua.

So conman and shit can be used freely but not trust and sensitive

@obiero do not abuse ur elderliness and use ur membership age as a delimiter of savoryness. kuona urimu tigu gukura ugi.

Negwo mani..

how can u do dat, just lyq dat.
Br kudos for that swift acrobatism. hii peso Ni yako. again its wise to follow warren buffets time proven adage, do not invest your peso in loss making monkies, despite how yappy @obiro may be.
duration from this day 22 to (shares traded)
22. 8792900
14. 7904400
9 7634600 kurakithwa tugi nayo, nakula kwa macho
8. 1422500
7. 1322400

KES 708,845 ready for trade plus an additional KES 25,000 in additional funds.. Order for purchase of 175,000 KQ shares placed


Better use that 700K to buy some kwota acre in Kamulu and hold for 3 years and sell at tripple the aomunt...KQ will still be sub 2 bob in 3 years plus naught dividend in the period.

@impunity 96% of my portfolio is on real estate with respective units spread over different income segments. I am hesitant to buy more property



@obiero now you can see meltdown has begun showing up!

I placed part of my purchase instruction at KES 3.85.. Got significant traction at KES 3.90. Buying the fear


You reckon KQ is suffering a temporary falling out of favour or a permanent deterioration of fundamentals?

anybody who buys a stock in fear does so largly because he or she is sure they are breaking a certain stock investing rulesmile
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#5103 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:20:24 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
mlennyma wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point

@Obiero - On Wednesday, you stated that come what may, you cannot accept anything below 12/= on your KQ shares. Next morning you are selling at 4.50/=

You really need to reevaluate your source of "inside information".

Link: @Obiero not accepting anything below Kshs. 12/= on KQ shares - see post #4917


I have tried to expose this conman and his ways. If there are still some who believe him... Washindwe.

But why does your mother trust me with extreme sensitive areas. I am a noble man

Have some class @Obiero. Surely!!?? This kind of language is beneath even a class 3 drop out!!!

You cannot use such language any a here let alone in Wazua.

So conman and shit can be used freely but not trust and sensitive

@obiero do not abuse ur elderliness and use ur membership age as a delimiter of savoryness. kuona urimu tigu gukura ugi.

Negwo mani..

how can u do dat, just lyq dat.
Br kudos for that swift acrobatism. hii peso Ni yako. again its wise to follow warren buffets time proven adage, do not invest your peso in loss making monkies, despite how yappy @obiro may be.
duration from this day 22 to (shares traded)
22. 8792900
14. 7904400
9 7634600 kurakithwa tugi nayo, nakula kwa macho
8. 1422500
7. 1322400

KES 708,845 ready for trade plus an additional KES 25,000 in additional funds.. Order for purchase of 175,000 KQ shares placed


Better use that 700K to buy some kwota acre in Kamulu and hold for 3 years and sell at tripple the aomunt...KQ will still be sub 2 bob in 3 years plus naught dividend in the period.

@impunity 96% of my portfolio is on real estate with respective units spread over different income segments. I am hesitant to buy more property



@obiero now you can see meltdown has begun showing up!

I placed part of my purchase instruction at KES 3.85.. Got significant traction at KES 3.90. Buying the fear


You reckon KQ is suffering a temporary falling out of favour or a permanent deterioration of fundamentals?

anybody who buys a stock in fear does so largly because he or she is sure they are breaking a certain stock investing rulesmile

Caution and due diligence has been observed by myself in assessing of my risk exposure level, but as initially stated on 24.11.2014; I do not recommend a buy to any other investor since the stock is intrinsically risky in its current form

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
ArrestedDev
#5104 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:55:00 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
The pilots are chipping in once again to oust Ngunze. There is something wrong with the management.

Quote:
The historic loses are a testament to what we have been saying all along that Kenya Airways is in desperate need of new leadership and direction.



http://www.nation.co.ke/...18438-91b9nyz/index.html
VituVingiSana
#5105 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:56:09 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,190
Location: Nairobi
FlyDubai to fly from Mombasa to Dubai. http://www.businessdaily...317348-d99e7p/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
ArrestedDev
#5106 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:02:56 PM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
[quote=VituVingiSana]FlyDubai to fly from Mombasa to Dubai. http://www.businessdaily...17348-d99e7p/index.html[/quote]

This is a penetration strategy by Emirates and Etihad. They want to strangle KQ to death. They have watched closely the numbers heading to Mombasa that they feed to our local carriers via NBO.
Impunity
#5107 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:38:51 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,330
Location: Masada
ArrestedDev wrote:
The pilots are chipping in once again to oust Ngunze. There is something wrong with the management.

Quote:
The historic loses are a testament to what we have been saying all along that Kenya Airways is in desperate need of new leadership and direction.



http://www.nation.co.ke/...8438-91b9nyz/index.html



Sub-2 may arrive earlier than forecast!

Drool Drool Drool
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#5108 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:41:44 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,330
Location: Masada
VituVingiSana wrote:
FlyDubai to fly from Mombasa to Dubai. http://www.businessdaily...17348-d99e7p/index.html



Sub-2 may arrive earlier than forecaste!
Even sub-1 is now inthe horizon.
Drool Drool Drool Drool Drool
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#5109 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:08:25 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
Impunity wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
FlyDubai to fly from Mombasa to Dubai. http://www.businessdaily...17348-d99e7p/index.html



Sub-2 may arrive earlier than forecaste!
Even sub-1 is now inthe horizon.
Drool Drool Drool Drool Drool

Hehe. Dreams are valid

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
VituVingiSana
#5110 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:33:15 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,190
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]FlyDubai to fly from Mombasa to Dubai. http://www.businessdaily...17348-d99e7p/index.html[/quote]

This is a penetration strategy by Emirates and Etihad. They want to strangle KQ to death. They have watched closely the numbers heading to Mombasa that they feed to our local carriers via NBO.

What has FlyDubai to do with Etihad or Emirates?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
maka
#5111 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:51:49 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
[quote=ArrestedDev]The pilots are chipping in once again to oust Ngunze. There is something wrong with the management.

Quote:
The historic loses are a testament to what we have been saying all along that Kenya Airways is in desperate need of new leadership and direction.



http://www.nation.co.ke/...8438-91b9nyz/index.html[/quote]

If he survives this time...he has juju.
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#5112 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:15:43 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
[quote=ArrestedDev]The pilots are chipping in once again to oust Ngunze. There is something wrong with the management.

Quote:
The historic loses are a testament to what we have been saying all along that Kenya Airways is in desperate need of new leadership and direction.



http://www.nation.co.ke/...8438-91b9nyz/index.html[/quote]

If he survives this time...he has juju.

Only the presidency can determine his fate.. CS Macharia is perfectly powerless on this one

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
maka
#5113 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:13:16 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
[quote=ArrestedDev]The pilots are chipping in once again to oust Ngunze. There is something wrong with the management.

Quote:
The historic loses are a testament to what we have been saying all along that Kenya Airways is in desperate need of new leadership and direction.



http://www.nation.co.ke/...8438-91b9nyz/index.html[/quote]

If he survives this time...he has juju.

Only the presidency can determine his fate.. CS Macharia is perfectly powerless on this one


The CS doesn't like him an inch...he will go home or he flies the planes himself.
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#5114 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:18:34 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
[quote=ArrestedDev]The pilots are chipping in once again to oust Ngunze. There is something wrong with the management.

Quote:
The historic loses are a testament to what we have been saying all along that Kenya Airways is in desperate need of new leadership and direction.



http://www.nation.co.ke/...8438-91b9nyz/index.html[/quote]

If he survives this time...he has juju.

Only the presidency can determine his fate.. CS Macharia is perfectly powerless on this one


The CS doesn't like him an inch...he will go home or he flies the planes himself.

Indeed the CS doesn't like his guts.. He doesn't even hide it

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
ArrestedDev
#5115 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:19:35 AM
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Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]FlyDubai to fly from Mombasa to Dubai. http://www.businessdaily...17348-d99e7p/index.html[/quote]

This is a penetration strategy by Emirates and Etihad. They want to strangle KQ to death. They have watched closely the numbers heading to Mombasa that they feed to our local carriers via NBO.

What has FlyDubai to do with Etihad or Emirates?


All these airlines belong to either the royal family or the members of the royal family. FlyDubai is an LCC formed by Emirates but they do not put it out there.
ArrestedDev
#5116 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:26:14 AM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
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Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
[quote=ArrestedDev]The pilots are chipping in once again to oust Ngunze. There is something wrong with the management.

Quote:
The historic loses are a testament to what we have been saying all along that Kenya Airways is in desperate need of new leadership and direction.



http://www.nation.co.ke/...8438-91b9nyz/index.html[/quote]

If he survives this time...he has juju.

Only the presidency can determine his fate.. CS Macharia is perfectly powerless on this one


The CS doesn't like him an inch...he will go home or he flies the planes himself.

Indeed the CS doesn't like his guts.. He doesn't even hide it


He needs to leave. I have always said here that he is not fit for the job. A year in a business is just too long for you to present the same bottom line. The results released on the 21st was even worse considering the proceeds from the sale of assets. Nothing like one-offs, everything must be taken into consideration in order to get the true picture. He talked of the same one-offs last year too. Even these KALPA guys cornered him.



obiero
#5117 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:38:24 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
[quote=ArrestedDev]The pilots are chipping in once again to oust Ngunze. There is something wrong with the management.

Quote:
The historic loses are a testament to what we have been saying all along that Kenya Airways is in desperate need of new leadership and direction.



http://www.nation.co.ke/...8438-91b9nyz/index.html[/quote]

If he survives this time...he has juju.

Only the presidency can determine his fate.. CS Macharia is perfectly powerless on this one


The CS doesn't like him an inch...he will go home or he flies the planes himself.

Indeed the CS doesn't like his guts.. He doesn't even hide it


He needs to leave. I have always said here that he is not fit for the job. A year in a business is just too long for you to present the same bottom line. The results released on the 21st was even worse considering the proceeds from the sale of assets. Nothing like one-offs, everything must be taken into consideration in order to get the true picture. He talked of the same one-offs last year too. Even these KALPA guys cornered him.




I would wish that Mr Mbuvi Ngunze stays. KALPA by striking and offering constant go slows in 2014-2015 are the real reason why some of the KPIs dint fair well. KALPA have killed some of the brand equity at KQ and they are at it once again. Terrible union with leadership members being staff who are unable to find jobs in the Middle East like some of their colleagues. They have a wanting CV, being excellent pilots with low ethics. Anywho, Operation Pride in action.. http://www.businessdaily...tem-0-15rjy4y/index.html

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
obiero
#5118 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:05:46 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
Bought back in the most recent batch at all time low of KES 3.70.. Total outlay KES 731,980. I am in this for the long haul and as said here once to many times, I go solo on this journey; join me at own risk appetite level, with consideration of own analysis.. Total potentially earned investment income in 5 trading days considering fall from KES 4.50 to average buy of KES 3.95, equals KES 88,495 inclusive of applicable F&C 2.1%

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
Impunity
#5119 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:28:24 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,330
Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
Bought back in at all time low of KES 3.70.. Total outlay KES 731,980. I am in this for the long haul and as said here once to many times, I go solo on this journey; join me at own analysis and risk appetite levels


What is your average buy price for this counter since time immemorial? Yaani since you fisrt enetered it.

If the buy price is below 3.70, then congrats...also what has changed for you to dip in again 7 days afetr exiting?

I would like to be your broker, he/she is a happy person.smile
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#5120 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:32:56 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Bought back in at all time low of KES 3.70.. Total outlay KES 731,980. I am in this for the long haul and as said here once to many times, I go solo on this journey; join me at own analysis and risk appetite levels


What is your average buy price for this counter since time immemorial? Yaani since you fisrt enetered it.

If the buy price is below 3.70, then congrats...also what has changed for you to dip in again 7 days afetr exiting?

I would like to be your broker, he/she is a happy person.smile

Bought back in the most recent batch at all time low of KES 3.70.. Total outlay KES 731,980. I am in this for the long haul and as said here once to many times, I go solo on this journey; join me at own risk appetite level, with consideration of own analysis.. Total potentially earned investment income in 5 trading days considering fall from selling price of KES 4.50 to average buy of KES 3.95, equals KES 88,495 exclusive of applicable F&C 2.1%. In the business world, you have to spread money around at times so as to make money.. My average buy price is KES 4.05

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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