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CS Matiang'i...Kenya's Magufului?
Anti_Burglar
#61 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:44:02 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:

There is more mischief in this drama than meets the eye. Has there been links established of these fires to the hiked fees? or to the lucrative holiday tuition? Are those not sources of stress to parents and pupils? Someone is playing dirty here as Sheri says.


Typical Kenyan reaction to deflect blame from the responsible person(s) and blame the boogeyman. So which someone are we referring to hear.

Matiang'i does not need to take responsibility for any single school burning, but he has to take responsibility for multiple schools or a systemic failure.



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murchr
#62 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:34:54 PM
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If they really want to know whats going on, they should ask the watchmen. One from kisii (i think Itieri or something) was interviewed in one of the local stations and he said that "watu wengine wanasema matiang'i anatumiwa apindue hii area from ODM to Jubilee" he was told to stop talking nonsense.
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Othelo
#63 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:37:59 PM
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murchr wrote:
If they really want to know whats going on, they should ask the watchmen. One from kisii (i think Itieri or something) was interviewed in one of the local stations and he said that "watu wengine wanasema matiang'i anatumiwa apindue hii area from ODM to Jubilee" he was told to stop talking nonsense.

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Swenani
#64 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:44:34 PM
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Othelo wrote:
murchr wrote:
If they really want to know whats going on, they should ask the watchmen. One from kisii (i think Itieri or something) was interviewed in one of the local stations and he said that "watu wengine wanasema matiang'i anatumiwa apindue hii area from ODM to Jubilee" he was told to stop talking nonsense.

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what about those schools burnt in Nyeri, Narok, Uasin Gishu etc
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Angelica _ann
#65 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:20:57 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Othelo wrote:
murchr wrote:
If they really want to know whats going on, they should ask the watchmen. One from kisii (i think Itieri or something) was interviewed in one of the local stations and he said that "watu wengine wanasema matiang'i anatumiwa apindue hii area from ODM to Jubilee" he was told to stop talking nonsense.

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what about those schools burnt in Nyeri, Narok, Uasin Gishu etc

Like seriously, spin it kabisa to blame Baba Sad Sad Sad
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Kratos
#66 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:54:30 PM
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washiku wrote:
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Education Cabinet Secretary Fred Matiang’i on Tuesday attributed the wave of arson attacks on schools to frustrations by students over failure to illegally access national examination papers.

He said he had information from police and headteachers that students had already paid for the papers but the teachers who abet cheating had been unable to procure the tests after the government dismantled the cartels which used to distribute them at the Kenya National Examinations Council.

“Students who have been arrested and are facing charges have told police that they were protesting because they had paid for the papers but they have not received them,” Dr Matiang’i said in his Jogoo House office in Nairobi on Tuesday.


contradiction....

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Although the minister said the students involved in the unrest had their own peculiar reasons for burning dormitories, laboratories and libraries, the key trigger was fear that they would fail the exams because they had not been shown the sample tests


This guy is an idiot!!!


5 more last night


What is contradictory there?


So far majority of those students caught after this incidences have attributed their actions to various reasons whether justified or not, in fact some of them could be lies. Nevertheless Matiangi in his own wisdom brushes aside these "reasons"and claims to know exactly what is going on without even investigations and proper evidence showing the same.

In the first quote he says the reason for widespread torching of schools is "failure to obtain exam leakage" but on the second quote he says that indeed he has been informed that the students who have been caught are giving "peculiar reasons". For instance if some students are burning schools because the school calendar has been changed according to Matiangi that is peculiar and so it has to be automatically "failure to obtain exam leakage"


“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Kratos
#67 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:02:54 PM
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sheri wrote:
Kratos wrote:
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Education Cabinet Secretary Fred Matiang’i on Tuesday attributed the wave of arson attacks on schools to frustrations by students over failure to illegally access national examination papers.

He said he had information from police and headteachers that students had already paid for the papers but the teachers who abet cheating had been unable to procure the tests after the government dismantled the cartels which used to distribute them at the Kenya National Examinations Council.

“Students who have been arrested and are facing charges have told police that they were protesting because they had paid for the papers but they have not received them,” Dr Matiang’i said in his Jogoo House office in Nairobi on Tuesday.


contradiction....

Quote:
Although the minister said the students involved in the unrest had their own peculiar reasons for burning dormitories, laboratories and libraries, the key trigger was fear that they would fail the exams because they had not been shown the sample tests


This guy is an idiot!!!


5 more last night

Why do you think he is an idiot. Majority of the schools burnt are public funded schools very few if any private schools have been burnt. Are private school students any different from their private counter parts. The unions are quick in calling for closure of schools and blaming the CS. Let be serious someone is playing dirty.


In my humble opinion he is an idiot.

One time US president Obama was asked why he had not responded to certain issues that were causing much public outcry, his answer was "I like to take my time so that I can understand what i will be talking about"
Matiangi is the opposite, very quick to offer ëxcuses without proper understanding of the subject matter nor even caring for investigations and fact finding. Ask those guys he was dealing with in ICT before he was appointed CS for Education.
So far according to him all this is happening because he has put in place stringent measures to curb exam cheating. Really?? Seriously? As much as cheating is a big issue, it is not the only issue.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
murchr
#68 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:21:19 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Othelo wrote:
murchr wrote:
If they really want to know whats going on, they should ask the watchmen. One from kisii (i think Itieri or something) was interviewed in one of the local stations and he said that "watu wengine wanasema matiang'i anatumiwa apindue hii area from ODM to Jubilee" he was told to stop talking nonsense.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly don't make me die laughing. That is a new low from you

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
what about those schools burnt in Nyeri, Narok, Uasin Gishu etc

Like seriously, spin it kabisa to blame Baba Sad Sad Sad


I was expecting such a response. Calm down read what I wrote again slowly, I was looking for that youtube clip but I notice K24 has turned it "private". Use your critical thinking skills here, if the watchie has such an opinion, its only wise to ask why? Are there people on the ground spreading propaganda and inciting students and the local communities? Another man was interviewed and said the "community dont want the schools near them" Something is cooking.



Am still looking for the watchie clip
The forces behind these fires are cartels. They use all means
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FRM2011
#69 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:25:32 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
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Some bright Kenyans have been at work and they have noted a very interesting trend.

What do most of the schools in flames have in common? In 2015, they recorded their best kcse results in history.

At this point, I should request the smart wazua analysts like @masukuma to fill in the gaps for the slow ones.


At watuka boys in my home county nyeri, the poor students were in class during preps when they heard screams after their dorm was set on fire.


A dorm was burnt today at nyahururu boys as the students were sitting for their end of term exams.

But there will be an idiot on tv foaming at the mouth going like "the bible says, spare the rod spoil the child, we must reintroduce caning in schools".
murchr
#70 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:43:36 PM
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A principal, his deputy, two teachers and a school bursar are amongst the people under investigation in Narok county for suspicion of setting a school on fire. The school officials were taken in for questioning in relation to a fire at Nkareta high school on Sunday.

Property burnt, Admin block, bazaars office and principals office.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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