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The Director of the new platform “SportPesa” is Gerasim Nikolov. He is “one of the main organizers of credit card draining in the world, according to experts from the National Security Agency (DANS),” the journalist Slavi Angelov from “24 Hours” daily claims in his investigation. His report was aired on the “On Target” broadcast of the public TV BNT1 in June 2014
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Don't get the rationale, what is the business case for sponsoring an anonymous English club, Kenyans will still focus on their Arsenal/Man-U slave masters. Can Sportspesa compete with the Russian oligarchs and the ME petro-dollars
Why not throw all that money at KPL, get it more organized, buy equity in many of the struggling sides and wait to reap rewards in future. Its the longer harder road to take but has the highest upside.
For crying out loud, roll out a Diamond league styled athletics comp in Kenya or Africa, take it to all the major towns/cities and see yourself hitting it big.
I could go on all day about the sporting opportunities I see in Kenya that this guys have ignored
Do kenyans even bother to go watch those athletics competition when they are held in the various parts of the country, or even those volleyball competitions, despite both being successful sports regionally and internationally for Kenya. Leave alone everyone else, how many parents attend their kids sporting events, like those high school games. Kenya hakuna sporting opportunities, we just love our booze and politics. Recently during the Olympics Qualification in Eldoret, the stadium was full to the brim. 
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kimanimsc wrote:The Director of the new platform “SportPesa” is Gerasim Nikolov. He is “one of the main organizers of credit card draining in the world, according to experts from the National Security Agency (DANS),” the journalist Slavi Angelov from “24 Hours” daily claims in his investigation. His report was aired on the “On Target” broadcast of the public TV BNT1 in June 2014  
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Rollins wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Don't get the rationale, what is the business case for sponsoring an anonymous English club, Kenyans will still focus on their Arsenal/Man-U slave masters. Can Sportspesa compete with the Russian oligarchs and the ME petro-dollars
Why not throw all that money at KPL, get it more organized, buy equity in many of the struggling sides and wait to reap rewards in future. Its the longer harder road to take but has the highest upside.
For crying out loud, roll out a Diamond league styled athletics comp in Kenya or Africa, take it to all the major towns/cities and see yourself hitting it big.
I could go on all day about the sporting opportunities I see in Kenya that this guys have ignored
Do kenyans even bother to go watch those athletics competition when they are held in the various parts of the country, or even those volleyball competitions, despite both being successful sports regionally and internationally for Kenya. Leave alone everyone else, how many parents attend their kids sporting events, like those high school games. Kenya hakuna sporting opportunities, we just love our booze and politics. Last I checked the athletics meets are very popular. You can actually have a very successful circuit in Kenya. Very true @Obi. Kenyans love athletics and will throng those stadias. They just need to give it some glamour so that those 'fellows' who attend Masaku 7s without any clue on matters rugby can attend... And the Volleyball meets have very many fans as well...You enjoy the game as you also kula na macho....  that's prison vs pipeline Why don't you post photos of the Kenya volleyball queens at Kasarani Gym. Infact I have never heard of Hull city despite them being in the EPL (Ok I don't watch EPL)so other than they being in the EPL they are no names. SportPesa is looking at the world out there. Their focus in sponsoring Hull City is to be visible wherever Hull City will be watched. After which they will roll out their betting platform to other markets/countries/continents. It's marketing and it has worked for other small brands before, after which they became world brands. If Kenya is making them all that money, imagine what richer markets will do. Pesa umulikwa na pesa!
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Othelo wrote:harrydre wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Othelo wrote:On Hull's website, wazungu are annoyed beyond words on being sponsored by an African betting company. let them accept and move on   funny people, they are annoyed at receiving cash, but one can understand them they feel bad receiving cash from rural poor peasants who skip a meal to send some sms in the hope of being lifted out of poverty. Africa rising jo! Soon we will have Sportpesa English Premier League especially considering the direction barclays is moving to
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Rollins wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Don't get the rationale, what is the business case for sponsoring an anonymous English club, Kenyans will still focus on their Arsenal/Man-U slave masters. Can Sportspesa compete with the Russian oligarchs and the ME petro-dollars
Why not throw all that money at KPL, get it more organized, buy equity in many of the struggling sides and wait to reap rewards in future. Its the longer harder road to take but has the highest upside.
For crying out loud, roll out a Diamond league styled athletics comp in Kenya or Africa, take it to all the major towns/cities and see yourself hitting it big.
I could go on all day about the sporting opportunities I see in Kenya that this guys have ignored
Do kenyans even bother to go watch those athletics competition when they are held in the various parts of the country, or even those volleyball competitions, despite both being successful sports regionally and internationally for Kenya. Leave alone everyone else, how many parents attend their kids sporting events, like those high school games. Kenya hakuna sporting opportunities, we just love our booze and politics. Last I checked the athletics meets are very popular. You can actually have a very successful circuit in Kenya. Very true @Obi. Kenyans love athletics and will throng those stadias. They just need to give it some glamour so that those 'fellows' who attend Masaku 7s without any clue on matters rugby can attend... And the Volleyball meets have very many fans as well...You enjoy the game as you also kula na macho.... that's prison vs pipeline Why don't you post photos of the Kenya volleyball queens at Kasarani Gym. Infact I have never heard of Hull city despite them being in the EPL (Ok I don't watch EPL)so other than they being in the EPL they are no names. I am talking about the club games, the backbone of sports if we can't pull crowds to go watch two of the best women volleyball teams in africa then its very hard to have a self sustaining industry in the same. International events pull crowds, but remember much of that cash goes to the national federations, in the west even darts events between clubs pull big crowds, hata gmes like handball. hapa kenya guys would rather fill up stadiums to listen to politics than go watch two of the best teams in the region sweating it out.
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Rollins wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Don't get the rationale, what is the business case for sponsoring an anonymous English club, Kenyans will still focus on their Arsenal/Man-U slave masters. Can Sportspesa compete with the Russian oligarchs and the ME petro-dollars
Why not throw all that money at KPL, get it more organized, buy equity in many of the struggling sides and wait to reap rewards in future. Its the longer harder road to take but has the highest upside.
For crying out loud, roll out a Diamond league styled athletics comp in Kenya or Africa, take it to all the major towns/cities and see yourself hitting it big.
I could go on all day about the sporting opportunities I see in Kenya that this guys have ignored
Do kenyans even bother to go watch those athletics competition when they are held in the various parts of the country, or even those volleyball competitions, despite both being successful sports regionally and internationally for Kenya. Leave alone everyone else, how many parents attend their kids sporting events, like those high school games. Kenya hakuna sporting opportunities, we just love our booze and politics. Last I checked the athletics meets are very popular. You can actually have a very successful circuit in Kenya. Very true @Obi. Kenyans love athletics and will throng those stadias. They just need to give it some glamour so that those 'fellows' who attend Masaku 7s without any clue on matters rugby can attend... And the Volleyball meets have very many fans as well...You enjoy the game as you also kula na macho.... that's prison vs pipeline Why don't you post photos of the Kenya volleyball queens at Kasarani Gym. Infact I have never heard of Hull city despite them being in the EPL (Ok I don't watch EPL)so other than they being in the EPL they are no names. I am talking about the club games, the backbone of sports if we can't pull crowds to go watch two of the best women volleyball teams in africa then its very hard to have a self sustaining industry in the same. International events pull crowds, but remember much of that cash goes to the national federations, in the west even darts events between clubs pull big crowds, hata gmes like handball. hapa kenya guys would rather fill up stadiums to listen to politics than go watch two of the best teams in the region sweating it out. I don't know which teams are in this picture you posted but I am 100% sure those are not our topflight volleyball teams. They look to me like high school teams or maybe club teams in the early 90's. Even the uniform they are wearing is outdated and not in sync with what club players wear in Kenya, I have atleast seen Kenya prisons and pipeline play and they were totally different from the photo you have there. You don't have to win an argument by lying you know? @Washiku, please post for this chap real photos of Kenya volleyball club matches "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Rollins wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Don't get the rationale, what is the business case for sponsoring an anonymous English club, Kenyans will still focus on their Arsenal/Man-U slave masters. Can Sportspesa compete with the Russian oligarchs and the ME petro-dollars
Why not throw all that money at KPL, get it more organized, buy equity in many of the struggling sides and wait to reap rewards in future. Its the longer harder road to take but has the highest upside.
For crying out loud, roll out a Diamond league styled athletics comp in Kenya or Africa, take it to all the major towns/cities and see yourself hitting it big.
I could go on all day about the sporting opportunities I see in Kenya that this guys have ignored
Do kenyans even bother to go watch those athletics competition when they are held in the various parts of the country, or even those volleyball competitions, despite both being successful sports regionally and internationally for Kenya. Leave alone everyone else, how many parents attend their kids sporting events, like those high school games. Kenya hakuna sporting opportunities, we just love our booze and politics. Last I checked the athletics meets are very popular. You can actually have a very successful circuit in Kenya. Very true @Obi. Kenyans love athletics and will throng those stadias. They just need to give it some glamour so that those 'fellows' who attend Masaku 7s without any clue on matters rugby can attend... And the Volleyball meets have very many fans as well...You enjoy the game as you also kula na macho.... that's prison vs pipeline Why don't you post photos of the Kenya volleyball queens at Kasarani Gym. Infact I have never heard of Hull city despite them being in the EPL (Ok I don't watch EPL)so other than they being in the EPL they are no names. I am talking about the club games, the backbone of sports if we can't pull crowds to go watch two of the best women volleyball teams in africa then its very hard to have a self sustaining industry in the same. International events pull crowds, but remember much of that cash goes to the national federations, in the west even darts events between clubs pull big crowds, hata gmes like handball. hapa kenya guys would rather fill up stadiums to listen to politics than go watch two of the best teams in the region sweating it out. I don't know which teams are in this picture you posted but I am 100% sure those are not our topflight volleyball teams. They look to me like high school teams or maybe club teams in the early 90's. Even the uniform they are wearing is outdated and not in sync with what club players wear in Kenya, I have atleast seen Kenya prisons and pipeline play and they were totally different from the photo you have there. You don't have to win an argument by lying you know? @Washiku, please post for this chap real photos of Kenya volleyball club matches sawa boss, hata hizi utasema are not real  
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masukuma wrote:[quote=Othelo][quote=gadj]
but you guys only made money from obscure sports like Tennis. Kabumbu ilikuwa inawanyosha! .....Does money won betting some obscure sport become any less? or if i may ask, kuna pesa Kamau na pesa Njoroge? .Back to obscure sports! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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washiku wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Don't get the rationale, what is the business case for sponsoring an anonymous English club, Kenyans will still focus on their Arsenal/Man-U slave masters. Can Sportspesa compete with the Russian oligarchs and the ME petro-dollars
Why not throw all that money at KPL, get it more organized, buy equity in many of the struggling sides and wait to reap rewards in future. Its the longer harder road to take but has the highest upside.
For crying out loud, roll out a Diamond league styled athletics comp in Kenya or Africa, take it to all the major towns/cities and see yourself hitting it big.
I could go on all day about the sporting opportunities I see in Kenya that this guys have ignored
Do kenyans even bother to go watch those athletics competition when they are held in the various parts of the country, or even those volleyball competitions, despite both being successful sports regionally and internationally for Kenya. Leave alone everyone else, how many parents attend their kids sporting events, like those high school games. Kenya hakuna sporting opportunities, we just love our booze and politics. Recently during the Olympics Qualification in Eldoret, the stadium was full to the brim. Thats a very BIG stadium, for real. Portfolio: Sold
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Guka karibu huku. I was all alone taking all the matusi on behalf of #team betting. Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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@Jaduong, Can't understand why we are concerned how the owners of SP are going to spend their dough.....i mean, this would have me worried if they'd bought my granny to go play for Hull ....Now, go there and have a feel of my obscure picks for late evening and let's make obscure money . Sumptuous games and good luck! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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sio matusi... read again what i wrote. first it was a question - why people are silent huko alternative investments i was told it was because it was off season I asked off season? coz kabumbu was out of season and i knew kabumbu chomad a few fingers huko but "obscure" sports like tennis are the ones that gave akina njunge money. more power to team betting - siwezi bet in something I cannot add value in. but more power to you guys. at a macro level it's not a productive economic activity but who cares - kila mtu ajipange... more power to you! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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repeat Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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washiku wrote:
Recently during the Olympics Qualification in Eldoret, the stadium was full to the brim.
People will watch athletics if entry is free.And again they thy will only watch major events like the trials. Nevertheless the crowd in Eldoret was of impressive size. The problem with other sports in my opinion is that they are dominated by corporate teams that people cannot relate to. I mean who supports Tusker or Ushuru or the various sugar teams. On the other hand, grassroots football is very popular. What I wish sportpesa would do is organize a tournament pitting various counties against each other. People will come to root for their county. And in Nairobi, everytime a tournament pitting various neighbourhoods against each other is played, the crowds are much bigger than KPL. E.g. a game between Jericho All stars vs kariobangi Sharks will draw much bigger crowds than Tusker vs Sofapaka. Also believe it or not, schools football draws crowds that KPL teams can only dream of. See below. People up country walk incredible distances go watch popular school teams. Kenyan marketers just haven't figured out how to monetize that passion. 
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It seems wazuans are experts on stocks, but when it comes to dirty business mko nje kidogo. Sportpesa is a perfect avenue for money laundering, and UK is the money laundering capital of the world. Do some research on the main Sportpesa directors, Guerrassim Nikolov, Mario Nikolov and Slavi Binev. You will be shocked beyond words. Bandit economy through and through this Kenya. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hull sponsorship was a front excuse for the directors to travel freely to the City of London tax haven. That's the only explanation that makes sense to me.
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