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Ebenyo
#451 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 9:46:46 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KCB rights ratified



I have a strong feeling these 1 billion un issued shares are responsible for the price decline in combination with rights. That will be some major dilution by the time they are all issued


approximately,what do u think will be the rights ratio, 1:3 or 1:4 or 1:5?
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tmatekwa
#452 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 11:20:08 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KCB rights ratified



I have a strong feeling these 1 billion un issued shares are responsible for the price decline in combination with rights. That will be some major dilution by the time they are all issued


approximately,what do u think will be the rights ratio, 1:3 or 1:4 or 1:5?


it shall translate to 1 share per every 3 held. we expect the price to fall to about 23 bob
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muandiwambeu
#453 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 3:15:32 PM
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tmatekwa wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KCB rights ratified



I have a strong feeling these 1 billion un issued shares are responsible for the price decline in combination with rights. That will be some major dilution by the time they are all issued


approximately,what do u think will be the rights ratio, 1:3 or 1:4 or 1:5?


it shall translate to 1 share per every 3 held. we expect the price to fall to about 23 bob

kioski ingine ya momo za kumi kumi imefunguliwa. Nani anauza. mchezo wa pata potea ndio hii tena ingine. Hii rights issue inawacha wengi wamegwarwa pabaya and thus should be simply called golden cuffs issue.
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ARAP CHARLES
#454 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 4:03:02 PM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
tmatekwa wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KCB rights ratified



I have a strong feeling these 1 billion un issued shares are responsible for the price decline in combination with rights. That will be some major dilution by the time they are all issued


approximately,what do u think will be the rights ratio, 1:3 or 1:4 or 1:5?


it shall translate to 1 share per every 3 held. we expect the price to fall to about 23 bob

kioski ingine ya momo za kumi kumi imefunguliwa. Nani anauza. mchezo wa pata potea ndio hii tena ingine. Hii rights issue inawacha wengi wamegwarwa pabaya and thus should be simply called golden cuffs issue.



IF I HEARD IT RIGHT THE RIGHTS WERE VALUED AT 38.50cts. SOMEONE WITH A LINK ABOUT THIS. I NEED MORE SENSE ABOUT THIS
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mulla
#455 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 4:50:24 PM
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ARAP CHARLES wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
tmatekwa wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KCB rights ratified



I have a strong feeling these 1 billion un issued shares are responsible for the price decline in combination with rights. That will be some major dilution by the time they are all issued


approximately,what do u think will be the rights ratio, 1:3 or 1:4 or 1:5?


it shall translate to 1 share per every 3 held. we expect the price to fall to about 23 bob

kioski ingine ya momo za kumi kumi imefunguliwa. Nani anauza. mchezo wa pata potea ndio hii tena ingine. Hii rights issue inawacha wengi wamegwarwa pabaya and thus should be simply called golden cuffs issue.



IF I HEARD IT RIGHT THE RIGHTS WERE VALUED AT 38.50cts. SOMEONE WITH A LINK ABOUT THIS. I NEED MORE SENSE ABOUT THIS


someone explain this to me(no matusis pleasesmile )....if you will have 4.5billion issued shares why would you want to raise only 10billion in the rights issue?? That will mean you will price the rights at just 2bob....what am I not seeing here??
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iris
#456 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:03:54 PM
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Not answering your question, but came across an interesting book that starts thus:

"Some in clandestine companies combine, erect new stocks to trade beyond the line, with air and empty names beguile the town and raise new credits first, then cry ‘em down, divide the empty nothing into shares, and set the crowd together by the ears." Daniel Defoe, ~1720
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gatoho
#457 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:19:49 PM
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researchfirst wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
researchfirst wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Crediting of the script dividend shares is today.
Tomorrow listing and trading


the conversion formula was very poor.


Agreed. It will be interesting to see how many actually took shares as opposed to cash.



@Pesa Nane. Thanks. So the total number of new shares issued represents 1.35% of the existing issued shares and 1.33% of the issued Shares as enlarged by the issue of the new shares.



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tmatekwa
#458 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:23:39 PM
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mulla wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
tmatekwa wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KCB rights ratified



I have a strong feeling these 1 billion un issued shares are responsible for the price decline in combination with rights. That will be some major dilution by the time they are all issued


approximately,what do u think will be the rights ratio, 1:3 or 1:4 or 1:5?


it shall translate to 1 share per every 3 held. we expect the price to fall to about 23 bob

kioski ingine ya momo za kumi kumi imefunguliwa. Nani anauza. mchezo wa pata potea ndio hii tena ingine. Hii rights issue inawacha wengi wamegwarwa pabaya and thus should be simply called golden cuffs issue.



IF I HEARD IT RIGHT THE RIGHTS WERE VALUED AT 38.50cts. SOMEONE WITH A LINK ABOUT THIS. I NEED MORE SENSE ABOUT THIS


someone explain this to me(no matusis pleasesmile )....if you will have 4.5billion issued shares why would you want to raise only 10billion in the rights issue?? That will mean you will price the rights at just 2bob....what am I not seeing here??


KBC is seeking to raise 10 billion shillings by selling 1 billion additional shares.

1 billion new shares represents 28.5% of the current shares. This means that 1 new share will be issued for every 3 old shares held. Given that the current price to book ration stands at 1.2, the rights should not be priced bellow 24.50/=
I expect the value to go down by 25%, i.e 3/4 of the current price of 32.5.



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Ericsson
#459 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 11:14:01 PM
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Rights issue my predictions is 2 : 15 at a price of sh.25 per share.
That equates to 400mn shares being issued
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tmatekwa
#460 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 11:47:05 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Rights issue my predictions is 2 : 15 at a price of sh.25 per share.
That equates to 400mn shares being issued


http://www.rich.co.ke/rcdata/company.php?i=MjE%3D

http://www.businessdaily.../-/firiqiz/-/index.html

where are you getting your 400m shares mister?
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