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obiero
#5001 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 11:51:40 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point

@Obiero - On Wednesday, you stated that come what may, you cannot accept anything below 12/= on your KQ shares. Next morning you are selling at 4.50/=

You really need to reevaluate your source of "inside information".

Link: @Obiero not accepting anything below Kshs. 12/= on KQ shares - see post #4917


I have tried to expose this conman and his ways. If there are still some who believe him... Washindwe.

But why does your mother trust me with extreme sensitive areas. I am a noble man

Have some class @Obiero. Surely!!?? This kind of language is beneath even a class 3 drop out!!!

You cannot use such language anywhere let alone in Wazua.

So conman and shit can be used freely but not trust and sensitive

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
ArrestedDev
#5002 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 11:57:07 AM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
Kausha wrote:
@Maka, the route downsizing has not been done, it is rather evident. This is the elephant in the room and it is the bitter pill to be swallowed before the patient can be moved to HDU and hopefully the General Ward. I am yet to run the exact numbers but this is the general theme. Let us retrace where the roof started cracking. Back in 2004 - 2006 KQ was running a very profitable and near optimally resourced airline. Load factors were among the best in global aviation space. What did Tito and team do? They went on a route opening spree opening up new routes in remote places in Africa whose result was to go into cities whose aviation routes were not developed and would require long lead times. Nothing wrong with that but it is the pace of doing it. One can't have 30% of new routes that have long lead times opened up in 2 years. If you are expanding into big cities where the economies are large enough, passenger volumes and airport infra support viable business cases then you only have to deal with competition to make money. What happens when you go to economies emerging from decades of war, ravaged by political instability, limited commerce and challenged airport infra? you end up having to wait for eons to make money or worse you never make money over the next 10-20 years because the routes don't make commercial sense and perhaps that is the reason why nobody flies there. I believe this is what KQ needs to trail its eyes on.

KQ has many of these routes to West Africa, what has happened is that the cash holes have drained the good routes and challenged the resources and quality of product on the profitable routes (OTP, price flexibility and Equipment quality) to the extent the profitable routes were since invaded by competition while KQ was opening up Africa its share severely dented. Classic examples are; Nairobi - Lagos, Nairobi - Lusaka, Nairobi - Dubai, Nairobi - Accra, Nairobi - London, Nairobi - Bangkok etc.

The Western Africa routes I believe had very weak business cases supporting them and closing down non profitable ones is the initial step in getting KQ back on recovery. The routes have ended up messing KQ's aircraft architecture, where KQ would use large B777s and optimize on scale while making shitloads of cash, they now ended up having to rely on Embraers which are limited in cargo haulage and economies of scale. Plus if you are landing in Lagos daily with an Embraer or an enroute 737-800 when you used to land daily with a 777, iko shida.

Until KQ retraces it's business model fixing the business as is, will be very expensive and inefficient.

In 2012 I predicted KQ would be a government baill off case by 2015, my fear is if they don't shrink, the airline my to be broken up into what GoK requires to have as a minimum for strategic reasons which they can support and what must the other airline but that must be let to die. Tz and Uganda already let their national carriers die natural deaths it's not unthinkable.


It is all not about shrinking the routes but a clear strategy / sound management is lacking. West Africa is a gem. There are underlying issues which needs to be addressed. One of them is KQ's product which has deteriorated since 2012 when well trained staff were sacked. The relationship with KLM among other issues. Ngunze cannot deliver and should just vacate.
ArrestedDev
#5003 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 12:05:10 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.
obiero
#5004 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 12:12:16 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
Kausha wrote:
@Maka, the route downsizing has not been done, it is rather evident. This is the elephant in the room and it is the bitter pill to be swallowed before the patient can be moved to HDU and hopefully the General Ward. I am yet to run the exact numbers but this is the general theme. Let us retrace where the roof started cracking. Back in 2004 - 2006 KQ was running a very profitable and near optimally resourced airline. Load factors were among the best in global aviation space. What did Tito and team do? They went on a route opening spree opening up new routes in remote places in Africa whose result was to go into cities whose aviation routes were not developed and would require long lead times. Nothing wrong with that but it is the pace of doing it. One can't have 30% of new routes that have long lead times opened up in 2 years. If you are expanding into big cities where the economies are large enough, passenger volumes and airport infra support viable business cases then you only have to deal with competition to make money. What happens when you go to economies emerging from decades of war, ravaged by political instability, limited commerce and challenged airport infra? you end up having to wait for eons to make money or worse you never make money over the next 10-20 years because the routes don't make commercial sense and perhaps that is the reason why nobody flies there. I believe this is what KQ needs to trail its eyes on.

KQ has many of these routes to West Africa, what has happened is that the cash holes have drained the good routes and challenged the resources and quality of product on the profitable routes (OTP, price flexibility and Equipment quality) to the extent the profitable routes were since invaded by competition while KQ was opening up Africa its share severely dented. Classic examples are; Nairobi - Lagos, Nairobi - Lusaka, Nairobi - Dubai, Nairobi - Accra, Nairobi - London, Nairobi - Bangkok etc.

The Western Africa routes I believe had very weak business cases supporting them and closing down non profitable ones is the initial step in getting KQ back on recovery. The routes have ended up messing KQ's aircraft architecture, where KQ would use large B777s and optimize on scale while making shitloads of cash, they now ended up having to rely on Embraers which are limited in cargo haulage and economies of scale. Plus if you are landing in Lagos daily with an Embraer or an enroute 737-800 when you used to land daily with a 777, iko shida.

Until KQ retraces it's business model fixing the business as is, will be very expensive and inefficient.

In 2012 I predicted KQ would be a government baill off case by 2015, my fear is if they don't shrink, the airline my to be broken up into what GoK requires to have as a minimum for strategic reasons which they can support and what must the other airline but that must be let to die. Tz and Uganda already let their national carriers die natural deaths it's not unthinkable.


It is all not about shrinking the routes but a clear strategy / sound management is lacking. West Africa is a gem. There are underlying issues which needs to be addressed. One of them is KQ's product which has deteriorated since 2012 when well trained staff were sacked. The relationship with KLM among other issues. Ngunze cannot deliver and should just vacate.

Agreed. The loss was shocking even by their own standards.. The hub is ripe for business but the business model is severely flawed, but can be fixed. KQ should never had made a loss if right management was engaged

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
Spikes
#5005 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 12:13:29 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
ArrestedDev wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.



KLM is screwing up KQ because the executive still believe it is not yet uhuru! They are suffering not only inferiority complex but also colonial mentality. Just accepting KLM decisions by acclamation eti mzungu amesema! Halafu KQ pays such idiots overwhelming salaries, perks and bonuses.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
maka
#5006 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 12:16:23 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.


I have always complained about the management...they run the co kienyeji all the well trained guys who have worked for years at the airline are leaving.
possunt quia posse videntur
MaichBlack
#5007 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 12:38:50 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,547
ArrestedDev wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.

For one, they are still there. Secondly, even after they leave, the agreements they have gotten into might follow KQ for years to come - just like the way we continued paying for Anglo leasing even after we had all agreed it was a scam. The fellows winning their cases meant we had to pay or get into bigger problems internationally with rating agencies, getting international financing etc.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#5008 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 12:50:13 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.


I have always complained about the management...they run the co kienyeji all the well trained guys who have worked for years at the airline are leaving.

@maka I believe you now

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
MaichBlack
#5009 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 12:54:50 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,547
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.


I have always complained about the management...they run the co kienyeji all the well trained guys who have worked for years at the airline are leaving.

No wonder they keep making very costly mistakes like fuel hedging at much higher prices when the whole world including random people on the streets can see the prices heading south!!!

Fuel being on the highest costs in an airline, you would expect their best brains to be handling such issues - with the help of sufficient data, analysis, research etc.

But then again, maybe they had their best brains on the job. Only that their best might not be good enough!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#5010 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 12:58:51 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.


I have always complained about the management...they run the co kienyeji all the well trained guys who have worked for years at the airline are leaving.

No wonder they keep making very costly mistakes like fuel hedging at a higher price when the whole world including random people on the streets can see the prices heading south!!!

These hedges were made ages ago and were tappering off to end in September this year

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
MaichBlack
#5011 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 1:02:31 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,547
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.


I have always complained about the management...they run the co kienyeji all the well trained guys who have worked for years at the airline are leaving.

No wonder they keep making very costly mistakes like fuel hedging at a higher price when the whole world including random people on the streets can see the prices heading south!!!

These hedges were made ages ago and were tappering off to end in September this year

Which other major airlines made such self defeating hedges in the same period?

We started discussing KQ's disastrous hedging strategy in Wazua ages ago!

Their expansion plan - project mawingu - was also discussed here at length from the day it was announced with a good number of wazuans explaining why it was a terrible idea and predicting it will spectacularly fail!! And this came to pass.

Mind you, these wazuans are not aviation experts. Wazuans who are in totally different fields can see the problems with a project and its inevitable failure and fellows who call themselves aviation experts and who are actually get paid to make those decisions are truly clueless!!

That is when you know a company is being run by idiots.

If a carpenter can correctly point out the flaws in your treatment plan for a patient, and you call yourself a doctor, surely it is time to quit medicine!! The best time was actually yesterday!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Ash Ock
#5012 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 1:17:55 PM
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Joined: 8/27/2010
Posts: 495
Location: Nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
Which other major airlines made such self defeating hedges in the same period?

We started discussing KQ's disastrous hedging strategy in Wazua ages ago!


Airlines Pull Back on Hedging Fuel Costs

Quote:
After decades of spending billions of dollars to hedge against rising fuel costs, more airlines, including some of the world’s largest, are backing off after getting burned by low oil prices.

When oil prices were rising, hedging often paid off for the airlines, helping them reduce their exposure to higher fuel costs. But the speed of the 58% plunge in oil prices since mid-2014 caught the industry by surprise and turned some hedges into big money losers.

Last year, Delta Air Lines Inc., the nation’s No. 2 airline by traffic, racked up hedging losses of $2.3 billion, while United Continental Holdings Inc., the No. 3 carrier, lost $960 million on its bets.

Meanwhile, No. 1-ranked American Airlines Group Inc., which abandoned hedging in 2014, enjoyed cheaper fuel costs than many of its rivals as a result. “Hedging is a rigged game that enriches Wall Street,” said Scott Kirby, the airline’s president, said in an interview.

Now, much of the rest of the industry is rethinking the costly strategy of using complex derivatives to lock in fuel costs, airlines’ second-largest expense after labor.
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streetwise
#5013 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 1:50:17 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2011
Posts: 1,740
Location: Nairobi
The guy even threw in exchange rate. I think he should have said the made losses because the sky was blue
Impunity
#5014 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 2:11:04 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,330
Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point

@Obiero - On Wednesday, you stated that come what may, you cannot accept anything below 12/= on your KQ shares. Next morning you are selling at 4.50/=

You really need to reevaluate your source of "inside information".

Link: @Obiero not accepting anything below Kshs. 12/= on KQ shares - see post #4917


I have tried to expose this conman and his ways. If there are still some who believe him... Washindwe.

But why does your mother trust me with extreme sensitive areas. I am a noble man


This is NOT a kind of language expected in this blue section of wazua, please.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#5015 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 2:12:49 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,711
Location: nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.


I have always complained about the management...they run the co kienyeji all the well trained guys who have worked for years at the airline are leaving.

No wonder they keep making very costly mistakes like fuel hedging at a higher price when the whole world including random people on the streets can see the prices heading south!!!

These hedges were made ages ago and were tappering off to end in September this year

Which other major airlines made such self defeating hedges in the same period?

We started discussing KQ's disastrous hedging strategy in Wazua ages ago!

Their expansion plan - project mawingu - was also discussed here at length from the day it was announced with a good number of wazuans explaining why it was a terrible idea and predicting it will spectacularly fail!! And this came to pass.

Mind you, these wazuans are not aviation experts. Wazuans who are in totally different fields can see the problems with a project and its inevitable failure and fellows who call themselves aviation experts and who are actually get paid to make those decisions are truly clueless!!

That is when you know a company is being run by idiots.

If a carpenter can correctly point out the flaws in your treatment plan for a patient, and you call yourself a doctor, surely it is time to quit medicine!! The best time was actually yesterday!!!

KQ shall rise from the ashes like the proverbial phoenix. Airline investment is not for everyone and requires patience

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
ArrestedDev
#5016 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 2:25:51 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Besides the gulf carriers, Look at how KLM is pulling a fast one on KQ due to the incompetence of its executives.

Quote:
“KLM feels that it dominates only because KQ does not put in similar effort,” says the Seabury report. “It does not prepare for meetings and frequently does not have proper background for their positions.”

One of the recommendations given by the consultants is that KLM needs to take time to explain sophisticated issues to KQ “stay transparent and include KQ input in all steps of decisions”.

KQ was also asked to assign “top talent” into the working groups and resources. This is because KQ employees have a general lack of understanding on how the joint venture operates and how to cooperate at day-to-day levels.


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/5b5k7uz/-/index.html^

In short, they are saying KQ is being run by a bunch of idiots. And they have full control of the company!

Surely, what can be worse to a company???

You'd rather have your company facing a number of external challenges but being ran by a group of smart, informed, experienced and committed employees than have it being ran by a bunch of idiots in any environment!!!


It is very likely that there is a problem with the management of KQ. With time, this shall come to pass.


I have always complained about the management...they run the co kienyeji all the well trained guys who have worked for years at the airline are leaving.

No wonder they keep making very costly mistakes like fuel hedging at a higher price when the whole world including random people on the streets can see the prices heading south!!!

These hedges were made ages ago and were tappering off to end in September this year

Which other major airlines made such self defeating hedges in the same period?

We started discussing KQ's disastrous hedging strategy in Wazua ages ago!

Their expansion plan - project mawingu - was also discussed here at length from the day it was announced with a good number of wazuans explaining why it was a terrible idea and predicting it will spectacularly fail!! And this came to pass.

Mind you, these wazuans are not aviation experts. Wazuans who are in totally different fields can see the problems with a project and its inevitable failure and fellows who call themselves aviation experts and who are actually get paid to make those decisions are truly clueless!!

That is when you know a company is being run by idiots.

If a carpenter can correctly point out the flaws in your treatment plan for a patient, and you call yourself a doctor, surely it is time to quit medicine!! The best time was actually yesterday!!!

KQ shall rise from the ashes like the proverbial phoenix. Airline investment is not for everyone and requires patience


It shall rise with good managers. The road to recovery is long. He was shoving around 18 months last year. Yesterday, I heard 18-24 months. The board chair denies that there is no strategic no investor till after one year but the CS Treasury talks about within a month. A confused bunch of servants holding brief for the master.
obiero
#5017 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 2:31:35 PM
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maka wrote:
littledove wrote:
KQ reduces operating loss from Kshs 16.3 billion to Kshs 4.1 billion
Revenues grew by 5% to sh. 116 billion





No one commented on the positives

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
mapengo
#5018 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 2:39:21 PM
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This stock is "deadier" than a deadbeat dad..
maka
#5019 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 2:56:50 PM
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Why is Ngunze still the CEO?
possunt quia posse videntur
enyands
#5020 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 3:13:14 PM
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maka wrote:
Why is Ngunze still the CEO?


Because our country rewards the most incompetent and inefficient officials
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