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KQ FY 2016 operating loss down to 4bn; net loss record (26.2bn)
Pesa Nane
#71 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:54:59 PM
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Confirmed!!

obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Impunity
#72 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:11:53 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Confirmed!!

obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point


I hope he has done as promised and thus wired to @VVS's Post bank account, the sum of kes. 100,000, payment being in favor of the bet they entered a few days ago.

smile
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VituVingiSana
#73 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:49:12 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Confirmed!!

obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point


I hope he has done as promised and thus wired to @VVS's Post bank account, the sum of kes. 100,000, payment being in favor of the bet they entered a few days ago.

smile

Dear @Obiero, how do I get in touch with you re: 100k to be donated to my charity of choice. Asante.
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Ebenyo
#74 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:50:36 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Confirmed!!

obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point


what was your average buying price?
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Spikes
#75 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:54:40 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Confirmed!!

obiero wrote:
160,900 KQ sold out at KES 4.50; take home KES 708,845.. Viewing of the leaked actual financials late last night, triggered my thought pattern. one of my ladies in an established media house had filled me in.. was at the trading floor way beyond opening hour. I had to blind side a few investors and I apologise for ratting out but capital preservation preceeds integrity. However, I remain interested in the share and will likely reinvest on lower entry point


I hope he has done as promised and thus wired to @VVS's Post bank account, the sum of kes. 100,000, payment being in favor of the bet they entered a few days ago.

smile

Dear @Obiero, how do I get in touch with you re: 100k to be donated to my charity of choice. Asante.




Brother @obiero is a staunch christian and going by church doctrines I don't think he participates in anything resembling SportPesa, Mcheza except gambling in KQ.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
lochaz-index
#76 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:59:39 PM
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hisah wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
hisah wrote:
Hedged fuel contracts turned positive Think
Hedged exchange losses increase 38%

How can the hedged fuel contracts be positive?

Anyone with the breakdown of this other costs? That's a huge spike!

Meanwhile the level to watch is 3.70. Price is slipping towards the 4.00 handle. Somehow the sellers are not spooked by this results based on the traded volume. Has the counter run out of sellers?

Very puzzling on the hedged fuel contracts. They still booked a loss on the derivatives albeit a decreasing one. Unless they took out new contracts(for example a collar)on additional fuel needs to cancel the losses on the old fixed hedges it doesn't make sense since outright canceling the old contracts and seeking new ones comes with heavy penalties which would have shown up here.

Looking at the consolidated income statement line by line reveals a very sad affair at KQ. There is still a lot of work to be done if this stock is to get back to investment grade. Save for the approximately 9b saving in direct costs(Mckinsey's trick)the rest of the deductible line items are either flat/flattish or increasing. Finance costs also spiked by some considerable margin(this one if not well managed will sink this company beyond redemption). They have probably exhausted their tax credits at this point too. On the other costs item, the only thing that comes to mind is the consultancy costs that is; Mckinsey,Seabury,PJT and crew...

In my opinion, this company will not be making a PAT for the next two financial years at the very minimum. More taxpayers money will be sunk into it year on year without a clear strategy of a turn-around.




Finance costs


That's a huge gamble on their huge debt being heavily denominated in USD.

Current affairs in the global market indicates being stuck with USD debt is a dangerous game as it readies to gain more strength due to brexit fallout! Plenty of forex losses next year will likely be reported again.


My word! 98%? OMG. Just when you think you've seen the worst these KQ chaps pull out the joker card. If there are any strategic investors lined up for this one...good luck to them.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
Kausha
#77 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:19:26 PM
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Eish KQ wah!
maka
#78 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:03:21 PM
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My question again why does the effin MD have an effin job?...Why?He earns a lot of chumz the f***er should just resign...
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D32
#79 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2016 12:04:19 AM
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Is there an ongoing effort to deal with the issues raised in here:

http://www.standardmedia...k-deal-with-klm?pageNo=1
They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
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