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ArrestedDev
#4931 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:24:24 PM
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Some comments are missing in this thread. @obiero, did you delete them?
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Impunity
#4932 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:27:30 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
Some comments are missing in this thread. @obiero, did you delete them?


Bro @obiero has left the counter permanently!

Look at his foot not:

<<COOP 7,200; HFCK 2,300>>

No KQ anywhere anymore.

Pole ndugu...sisi twangoja sub 2 bob as earlier planned.
Sad Sad Sad
Portfolio: Sold
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mlennyma
#4933 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:27:38 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
Some comments are missing in this thread. @obiero, did you delete them?

obiero has become the hunted but he has 9 lives kq will rally hard when a partner/new financier is unveiled
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ArrestedDev
#4934 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:36:32 PM
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snipermnoma wrote:
obiero wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline.

In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off


The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation.

Unless we see the results. It is unfair to say that fundamental are still very poor

Tha Balance Sheet [as of 1H 2015-16] was NEGATIVE 30 Billion... Very solid balance sheet, eh? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

KES 789,500 could be my take home if I sold today, but I shall not take a shilling less than KES 12. It is worth mentioning that KES 58,800 is my paper gain in the last 3 days.. That's all I know.... However I will not sell even if we reverse temporarily based on tomorrow's massive loss announcement.. As I have said before, this stock isn't for everyone


Obiero wish I had your confidence. If I was in your shoes, I would cash in on the gain. It is likely a loss will be announced and the price will likely reduce, especially in this bear market. So why not sell and re-enter at a lower price?

It is guaranteed that a loss shall be announced.. That was forecasted right here on wazua about 4 months ago. What is also certain is that there will be an operating profit for the first time in 4 years


Ok. I hear you on the operating profit, that is good. Shows improvement in the core business. Going back to owning shares in KQ, it still makes sense for you to cash in and re-enter lower. Why hold to watch it go lower?

I am really struggling to get why you are leaving money on the table. Perhaps I should just accept what you said, this share is not for everyone.


Let the operating profit not deceive you. Please factor in the finance costs and see the correct position. The debt is a killer. There is a sharp rise in finance costs due to the bridging loan acquired at a high interest rate.
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Impunity
#4935 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:39:40 PM
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Yaani the gross profit leaped up 42% but the net loss after tax is a whopping 26B....How can it be possible to have proffit anf loss in the same sentence?

Anybody has the tabulated results?
Portfolio: Sold
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mlennyma
#4936 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:41:57 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
obiero wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline.

In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off


The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation.

Unless we see the results. It is unfair to say that fundamental are still very poor

Tha Balance Sheet [as of 1H 2015-16] was NEGATIVE 30 Billion... Very solid balance sheet, eh? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

KES 789,500 could be my take home if I sold today, but I shall not take a shilling less than KES 12. It is worth mentioning that KES 58,800 is my paper gain in the last 3 days.. That's all I know.... However I will not sell even if we reverse temporarily based on tomorrow's massive loss announcement.. As I have said before, this stock isn't for everyone


Obiero wish I had your confidence. If I was in your shoes, I would cash in on the gain. It is likely a loss will be announced and the price will likely reduce, especially in this bear market. So why not sell and re-enter at a lower price?

It is guaranteed that a loss shall be announced.. That was forecasted right here on wazua about 4 months ago. What is also certain is that there will be an operating profit for the first time in 4 years


Ok. I hear you on the operating profit, that is good. Shows improvement in the core business. Going back to owning shares in KQ, it still makes sense for you to cash in and re-enter lower. Why hold to watch it go lower?

I am really struggling to get why you are leaving money on the table. Perhaps I should just accept what you said, this share is not for everyone.


Let the operating profit not deceive you. Please factor in the finance costs and see the correct position. The debt is a killer. There is a sharp rise in finance costs due to the bridging loan acquired at a high interest rate.

trading dangerously, dollar loans!!!!
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ArrestedDev
#4937 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:49:01 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Yaani the gross profit leaped up 42% but the net loss after tax is a whopping 26B....How can it be possible to have profit and loss in the same sentence?

Anybody has the tabulated results?


Interest on loans will wipe out any gains realised. The airline is flying/ staff working for the banks.
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Impunity
#4938 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:51:34 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Yaani the gross profit leaped up 42% but the net loss after tax is a whopping 26B....How can it be possible to have profit and loss in the same sentence?

Anybody has the tabulated results?


Interest on loans will wipe out any gains realised. The airline is flying/ staff working for the banks.


What was the gross profit last year?
A 42% increase makes it look big, may its a 42% increase on 2 million which is equal to 2.8 million shillings!

Liar Liar
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moneydust
#4939 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:55:11 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
Some comments are missing in this thread. @obiero, did you delete them?


I have also noticed the same..
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mlennyma
#4940 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:59:43 PM
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moneydust wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Some comments are missing in this thread. @obiero, did you delete them?


I have also noticed the same..

and something is missing also in Obiero 's signature smile may have dropped the hot potato
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