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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation. Unless we see the results. It is unfair to say that fundamental are still very poor COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/26/2015 Posts: 1,147
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obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation. Unless we see the results. It is unfair to say that fundamental are still very poor me like this momentum. let's wait to see the projection It's not over until I winskype id: karasinga. email: kkarasinga@gmail.com
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 9/12/2014 Posts: 31
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As far as KQ goes we all know the cyclic relationship that always happens between GoK bailouts and share value. I wouldn't wish to hang onto KQ in the name of fundamentals this or fundamentals that; this is a chartist's den. The best way to make money on KQ is to play with the margins. Choose your entry and exit points carefully and ride the momentum because at the end of the day it's not about how may shares you hold, but the value margins on those shares. If the margins are in the negative, you need to re-evaluate your strategy. If they are in the green, things are not looking bad so maybe hang on as you strategize on your exit. Having KQ in the red is not the same as having the likes of Safaricom or Equity in the red. And as far as fundamental analysis goes for KQ, as it does for most if not all GoK run corporates, good fundamentals today may be something else tomorrow so whichever way you look at it, KQ is not a good counter for a serious value investor. I suspect most of the value investors holding KQ have been involuntarily drawn into the situation because they are afraid of exiting due to the potential "Realized Losses" staring at them. Good luck for the KQ die-hards though...mwanaume ni kujiamini
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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karasinga wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation. Unless we see the results. It is unfair to say that fundamental are still very poor me like this momentum. let's wait to see the projection This stock has no fundamentals to boast about! KQ's sale of assets to boost its balance sheet is not enough to take pride in. After selling assets and leasing some including pilots outsourcing to Ethiopian airlines, KQ's balance sheet is still stinking with skyrocketing debt. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. If this stock can rally on expectation of reduced loss, what will happen when we turn a profit.. Fundies are for the weak hearted. We work with inside information. Granted, government firms are not easy to deal in, but we must remember that KQ once traded at KES 126 and based on volume analysis majority of those who witnessed that price are yet to sell. This is a fact COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. If this stock can rally on expectation of reduced loss, what will happen when we turn a profit.. Fundies are for the weak hearted. We work with inside information. Granted, government firms are not easy to deal in, but we must remember that KQ once traded at KES 126 and based on volume analysis majority of those who witnessed that price are yet to sell. This is a fact Yes they havent sold actually know quite a sizeable number of them...but is that a proper investment?How many years down the line?Talk of trials and tribulations...Shida tupu. Acha kesho ifike they announce another massive loss then life moves on... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Tomorrow's price is likely to be the final time in recent memory that we shall reach KES 4.60. It is official, the plane is ready for take off You are forgetting the fact that ensuing court battle by sacked employees might tank this stock further to 2/-. This time around there shall be no court case. Trust me.. Tomorrow's price and volume action on the share shall show the way forward Even if it jumps to 4.6/-with huge volume the fact remains this is sugar-coated speculation. Ni kama kukanyaga makaa ya moto! Utakosa kuchomeka kweli? @obiero if your speculation theory obeys you by Fry-dei jump out with more than 30%- otherwise you risk your fortune herein. KES 4.70 printed. We shall not see these prices again. Once we break out of KES 5.00, only God knows where we shall land. As I have posited and opined here severally, KQ should never have traded below KES 8.00 and its real value is KES 14 with a possible premium of upto KES 45 per share based on return to profitability.. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. I like the way kq shareholders have managed to encourage themselves despite the stress of watching your wealth eroded significantly.I have really learnt something to do with patience here.This is the only thread that is daily active despite kq 25 billion loss last year.Hope the turnaround will return the business back to profitability.If not we can think of starting a wazua airline. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. I like the way kq shareholders have managed to encourage themselves despite the stress of watching your wealth eroded significantly.I have really learnt something to do with patience here.This is the only thread that is daily active despite kq 25 billion loss last year.Hope the turnaround will return the business back to profitability.If not we can think of starting a wazua airline. LMFAO COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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The Pride of Africa voted leading African Airline of the Year 2015  COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,190 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation. Unless we see the results. It is unfair to say that fundamental are still very poor Tha Balance Sheet [as of 1H 2015-16] was NEGATIVE 30 Billion... Very solid balance sheet, eh? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,190 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. If this stock can rally on expectation of reduced loss, what will happen when we turn a profit.. Fundies are for the weak hearted. We work with inside information. Granted, government firms are not easy to deal in, but we must remember that KQ once traded at KES 126 and based on volume analysis majority of those who witnessed that price are yet to sell. This is a fact Warren Buffett being described as "weak" ... We work with inside information Where's the CMA? http://www.businessdaily...22/-/1qilv2/-/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,711 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation. Unless we see the results. It is unfair to say that fundamental are still very poor Tha Balance Sheet [as of 1H 2015-16] was NEGATIVE 30 Billion... Very solid balance sheet, eh? KES 789,500 could be my take home if I sold today, but I shall not take a shilling less than KES 12. It is worth mentioning that KES 58,800 is my paper gain in the last 3 days.. That's all I know.... However I will not sell even if we reverse temporarily based on tomorrow's massive loss announcement.. As I have said before, this stock isn't for everyone COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation. Unless we see the results. It is unfair to say that fundamental are still very poor Tha Balance Sheet [as of 1H 2015-16] was NEGATIVE 30 Billion... Very solid balance sheet, eh? KES 789,500 could be my take home if I sold today, but I shall not take a shilling less than KES 12. It is worth mentioning that KES 58,800 is my paper gain in the last 3 days.. That's all I know.... However I will not sell even if we reverse temporarily based on tomorrow's massive loss announcement.. As I have said before, this stock isn't for everyone 2018-2019 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 257
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Let's wait for reality kesho...we know this is all hot air.ION COO flew in jana for his new role let's see what he will streamline. In the last few weeks about 10 million shares have been traded. On hot air basis.. High of today KES 4.80. We have lift off The fundamentals are still very poor. The trade volumes are due to stock speculation. Unless we see the results. It is unfair to say that fundamental are still very poor Tha Balance Sheet [as of 1H 2015-16] was NEGATIVE 30 Billion... Very solid balance sheet, eh? KES 789,500 could be my take home if I sold today, but I shall not take a shilling less than KES 12. It is worth mentioning that KES 58,800 is my paper gain in the last 3 days.. That's all I know.... However I will not sell even if we reverse temporarily based on tomorrow's massive loss announcement.. As I have said before, this stock isn't for everyone Obiero wish I had your confidence. If I was in your shoes, I would cash in on the gain. It is likely a loss will be announced and the price will likely reduce, especially in this bear market. So why not sell and re-enter at a lower price?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Kwanza Karauri has pulled a number on KQ am sure he will sleep a happy man today. ... possunt quia posse videntur
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