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Turkish Govt overthown
masukuma
#41 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 7:28:39 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Does this mean Turkey no longer wants to join the EU?

I think they still have a stick i.e. being a conduit for Migrants to that greek island of Lesbos! once they are in Lesbos they are in the EU. so the EU (or Greece) must rub their back.
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Swenani
#42 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 7:31:00 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Does this mean Turkey no longer wants to join the EU?


Why should they join when the rest are looking for a way out?
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AlphDoti
#43 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:29:09 PM
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To defeat the coup, the Turkish president used his iPhone. Mosques used their loudspeakers, broadcasting the call to prayer hours before dawn. Political leaders of all creeds, some staunch opponents of the president, called unambiguously for the coup to be defeated. Policemen arrested soldiers.

Unarmed people recaptured CNN Turk and the bridges across the Bosphorus, braving gunfire to recapture democracy for their country.

This was unambiguously a military coup. And yet the US Embassy in Ankara in its emergency message to US citizens called it an “uprising”.

Geopolitical Futures released an analysis saying the coup was successful. BBC Arabic, Sky News Arabic, El Arabiya TV, the ITN diplomatic editor, the US networks were all running commentaries saying Erdogan was finished, or had fled to Germany.

The Guardian ran a piece whose first headline (it was later amended) said everything about an author unable to contain his glee at the demise of a man he qualified as authoritarian islamist: “How Recep Tayyip Erdogan inflamed tensions in Turkey”.

As the people of Turkey battled for their future, there was a crashing silence from Western leaders whose brand image is democracy. The French consulate had closed two days earlier. Did it know something Turkey did not?

In his initial statement, US Secretary of State John Kerry used every word except the dreaded “d” one. He hoped for “stability and peace and continuity” within Turkey.

Nothing about supporting a legitimately elected president and a legitimately elected parliament. Only when it was already obvious that the coup was failing did President Barack Obama and Kerry issue a statement unambiguously backing Erdogan.

If you want to know why Europe and the US are a busted flush in the Middle East, why they have lost all moral authority, indeed any authority at all, and why they are no longer the candle bearers of democratic change, look no further than the three hours of silence as they waited to see which way the wind was blowing in Istanbul and Ankara.

The Saudis waited 15 hours before issuing a statement supporting Erdogan. The Emiratis and the media they controlled spread the message that Erdogan had fled the country.

The exact opposite was the truth. Erdogan showed bravery getting into a plane and heading for Istanbul knowing F16s were in the air and that the runway at Ataturk airport could have been closed.

Only three countries in the world clearly supported Erdogan from the start - Morocco, Qatar, and Sudan.

What was particularly impressive were the statements of Turkish politicians who had every reason to want Erdogan to go, and who had themselves been displaced by him. To his credit, the leader of Turkey’s largest party, Kemal Kalicdaroglu of the centre-left People's Republican Party (CHP), came out immediately against the coup in a series of tweets, saying the country has "suffered a lot" in past military takeovers.

Two AK Party leaders from the liberal wing, who had been displaced or recently sacked by Erdogan supported him. Former president Abdullah Gul told CNN Turk that "Turkey is not a Latin America country ... I'm calling those who attempt to overthrow the government [they] should go back to their barracks."

When people come out in response to the Adhaan and when they pray Fajr despite the chaos of a military uprising - they prayed Fajr on their flag as the musalla - then the help of Allahﷻ is إن شاء اللهُ assured. We all saw the results.


What you should know about Turkey's President, Recap Tayyip Erdogan:

1. The Turkish economy between 2002 and 2012 caused a growth of 64% in real GDP and a 43% increase in GDP per capita.

2. Erdoğan inherited a debt of $23.5 billion to the IMF, which was reduced to $0.9 billion in 2012. He decided not to sign a new deal. Turkey's debt to the IMF was thus declared to be completely paid and he announced that the IMF could borrow from Turkey.

3. In 2010, five-year credit default swaps for Turkey's sovereign debt were trading at a record low of 1.17%, below those of nine EU member countries and Russia.

4. In 2002, the Turkish Central Bank had $26.5 billion in reserves. This amount reached $92.2 billion in 2011. During Erdoğan's leadership. Inflation fell from 32% to 9.0% in 2004.

5. Under Erdoğan's government, the number of airports in Turkey increased from 26 to 50.

6. Between 2002 and 2011, another 13500 km of expressway were built.

7. For the first time in Turkish history, high speed railway lines were constructed, and the country's high-speed train service began in 2009. In 8 years, 1076 km of railway were built and 5449 km of railway renewed.

8. Erdogan put greater investments into the healthcare system than any predecessor. As part of the reforms, the "Green Card" program, which provides free health benefits to the poor.

9. Erdoğan increased Education spending from 7.5 billion lira in 2002 to 34 billion lira in 2011, the highest share of the national budget given to one ministry and number of universities in Turkey nearly doubled, from 98 in 2002 to 186 in October 2012.

10. In 1996 1$=222 Lira and in 2016 1$=2.94 Lira, even after the recent turmoil.


Today it seems that they are the only people who have the potential to do it. The Arabs have disintegrated. The Indian subcontinentals were never leaders of the Ummah in any case. Just local despots who had no global impact.

The encouraging thing was that even the opposition, including Kurdish leaders, came out in support of Erdogan. The Western media campaign is seeking to malign him once again by talking about his so-called autocratic nature because he stands up to them. He is the only one who threw off the IMF yoke. And forced Israel to allow aid into Gaza. The Ottomans first beat the hell out of Europe and then ruled it for 400 years and left an indelible mark. That is what the white man can't stomach. So they hate him. They want lackeys who make sujood to them instead of to Allahﷻ.

When people come out in response to the Adhaan and when they pray Fajr despite the chaos of a military uprising - they prayed Fajr on their flag as the musalla - then the help of Allahﷻ is إن شاء اللهُ assured. We all saw the results.
AlphDoti
#44 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:31:23 PM
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Who is Fetullah Gulen, d man accused to be behind latest Turkish coup attempt.

1. Born in Erzurum in 1941

2. Began religious career as Imam delivering Waz /Beyan in 1966

3. Used the Nursi movement in 1970’s to gain fame, power and monetary wealth.

4. He deviated from Said Nursi's teachings.

5. Started to develop his own movement and network, supported by the Kemalist Military and Government.

6. Supported the 1980 Coup of General Kenan Evren; in return the military government financed his network's newspaper, ZAMAN, which is the largest circulated periodical in Turkey.

7. Met with the late Pope John Paul II in 1998 and developed Dialogue for Tolerance and Alliance with Catholics.

8. Started Hizmet (service) movement, cooperating with Catholic churches.

9. He misrepresented his group to Turkish businessmen to solicit donations for his schools around the world where he claimed Turkish language and culture would be taught to the world.

10. Established an estimated over than three thousand schools in the world with the help of the Pope and Zionist businessmen from Turkey especially in Muslim Countries to help secular leaders and make money.

11. Hizmet connected with Israel and Zionist lobby inside the United States and established 129 schools in the USA with an estimated yearly income over than 400 million

12. Developed a network of insiders who are loyal to his network inside the entire Turkish systems (Education, Judicial, Police and Legislative) but was unsuccessful in entry to Turkish Military.

13. Supported Tayyip Erdogan's government (AKP) hoping that he can capture the party and hoping to attain more control in different levels in the Turkish government.

14. Conflict began between Tayyip Erdogan and Fetullah Gulen over the Anti Israeli Stance of the Erdogan Government; some think that Gulen was told by the Zionists to control Erdogan’s messages against Israel. Remember in Chicago in the hotel I gave a copy of the Rand Corp’s Civil Democratic Islam, in which the US was using him against any Islamic movements.

He even established schools in Pakistan and Bangladesh to help the governments. Especially Bangladesh donated huge territory for their activities. In Turkey his media supported capital punishment of the Jamaati Islami leaders contrary to President Gul and Erdogan. Both Gul and Erdogan were pressuring Bangladesh Government not to go through with capital punishment. Once again Gulen’s Media were accusing the Erdogan Government of interfering with the internal matters of Bangladesh.

15. Erdogan’s supports Gaza and gave symbolic criticism to Israel. However, his criticism mobilized huge support from Islamic oriented youth and Israel became very unhappy with Erdogan’s rhetoric. Israel pressured Gulen to stop Erdogan by using the Sixty Minutes TV program and The New York Times exposing how much Gulen is receiving from these schools and his businesses in the US. Using tactical maneuvers, they were saying if you do not stop Erdogan all these benefits will stop.

16. Gulen tried to change the interpretations of Qur'an's Ayats and Hadith issuing statements to Zionists gathering in New York that he misunderstood the Ayats in regard to Jews and Christians. They can go to heaven. He used Thomas Michel (one time popes’ secretary) to take him to Turkey and other countries. Michel started writing and lecturing that the Qur’an may have misunderstood the trinity and this misunderstanding was entered into the Qur’an from illiterate Bedouin Arabs. Erdogan’s education was from Imam Hatip (religious schools). He was very unhappy with Gulen’s distortion of Islam and further more his base was very unhappy and put pressure on Erdogan to deal with Gulen. Meanwhile, Gulen was using his loyalist police force to listen to and record Erdogan’s activities, even personal activities, as well as they listed to Persident Gul and the Chief of Military staff. Erdogan claims that Gulen was reporting to Israeli Intelligence and Western Media.

17. Erdogan realized that Fetullah Gulen’s involvement would eventually lead to overthrow of his government.

18. Fetullah Gulen mobilized his deep state networks against Erdogan like the 2013 Gezi Park demonstrations, as well as subsequent civil unrest in Turkey, but both were unsuccessful.

19. The overturn movement did not work because Gulen exposed himself as a religious fraud by stating that Christians and Jews can go to heaven and then he developed anti- Arab feelings amongst his followers. He was worried more about Israeli children, yet he did not make a single statement about the Palestinian children.

20. Gulen declared that the Mavi Marmara victims should have gotten permission from Israel. These statements made him very unpopular outside his group. [That was the ship bringing relief goods for Gaza.]

21. He bugged the telephones of his opponents using his network inside the police forces.

22. Erdogan decided to challenge the network and eradicate their presence in all facets.

23. While combating this group, the Erdogan government discovered that any opposition to Gulen’s twisted religious thinking would be brought up in Turkish courts on trumped charges and false evidence by his police followers and convicted by his followers’ judges. Any religious figure who disapproved of his ideas on the Qur’an and Hadith, his forces would develop trumped charges that either they are Taliban or made montaj videos showing that they are in illicit relations. Erdogan decided to deal with him.

24. Erdogan was successful in removing most of the Gulen Network insiders from most of the government and civil service.

25. Turkish Government has taken the extraordinary step to cancel Gulen’s passport and refer him to Interpol for extradition.

26. Zionist groups are supporting Gulen as his network has been invaluable in getting confidential information to Zionist groups and foreign governments.

27. Note: Income from the Network of schools and business and donations, income estimates state that the overall organization has a net worth of over 30 billion dollars.

28. Most of all his business ventures (Banks, Newspapers, TV stations) are now under intense scrutiny by Turkish authorities and have seen a collapse of their worth.

29. Turkey beside cancelled his Green passport (With this passport one can go without visa to many countries) and the court decided to extradite him from the USA. Let us see how Zionists are going to play their part to save him.
Impunity
#45 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:37:11 PM
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Just read from CNN that US has a tranche of Nuclear bombs positioned in Turkey...these are are 1950s post cold war era Nukes which are under US guidance 24/7/265/0.25 and they can onle be activated from Washington by the sittibg president.

Phew!
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Taurrus
#46 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:52:04 PM
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Ghai! @alpha
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