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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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hardwood wrote:Putin says choices have consequences after Turkey shoots Russian plane. Tells "supporters of terrorism and those who fund ISIS by buying their oil" (i.e Turkey) that they have made a grave mistake. WW3 inanukia. http://www.dailymail.co....ane-crashing-trees.html
 Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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The alternate war view: Lucky case of Iraqi Special Forces surviving an ISIS VBIED in the battle for Fallujah - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18H1YDdQieg
ISIS convoy escaping Fallujah mowed down from Iraqi choppers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_bdfQMXYY0
Anytime clerics or politicians or their puppets issue war declarations, the reality for even the armed forces is ugly. The only winners in this are the weapons merchants and corporates eager to truck away the regions natural resources.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. Talking to a Muslim personal friend they believe in return of Issa ((Jesus christ), but the Issa will have to die like any other person on earth after he comes back, then he will face judgement with all of us . Old testament and Quran are mostly similar ,they are different on new testament bit. I could be wrong and would love @alpha_doti to correct me on this one .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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enyands wrote:guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. Talking to a Muslim personal friend they believe in return of Issa ((Jesus christ), but the Issa will have to die like any other person on earth after he comes back, then he will face judgement with all of us . Old testament and Quran are mostly similar ,they are different on new testament bit. I could be wrong and would love @alpha_doti to correct me on this one . I am very close to Muslims and they say Jesus will be charge in the day of judgement. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior? Whay cant you all be Christians? Do Muslims belive in Life after death? Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity? Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Impunity wrote:guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior? Whay cant you all be Christians? Do Muslims belive in Life after death? Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity? Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old. I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question. Where are the two Caliphs?  Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Impunity wrote:Impunity wrote:guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior? Whay cant you all be Christians? Do Muslims belive in Life after death? Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity? Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old. I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question. Where are the two Caliphs? Your question one: are Muslims also waiting the Christ return? Answer: Yes. Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h said: "There is no prophet between me and him (Jesus), and he shall descend. He… will stay in the world for forty years; then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral Prayer for him." (received by Abu Dawood) Allah says: "He (the son of Mary) shall be a known sign of the Hour; so have no doubt concerning it and follow Me." (Quran 43:61)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Impunity wrote:Impunity wrote:guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior? Whay cant you all be Christians? Do Muslims belive in Life after death? Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity? Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old. I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question. Where are the two Caliphs? Your question two: Why can't you all be Christians? Answer: Please read to the end. I'm sorry it became long. What you call Christianity today is not what Jesus pbuh taught. What the Christians call Gospel is not the original message of Jesus, it has been corrupted. The reason he's coming back because his followers mistook him that he claimed divinity. There is no other messenger who havs been mistook to have claimed divity other than Jesus pbuh. That is why Allah raised him up alive. So in his second coming, he will not bring in any new law. He will follow the same law of the Quran. He will not teach anything new. He will come to testify to the Christians that he never claimed divinity, and that he is not God. Quran 5:116: And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'" He (Jesus) will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself." Narrated Abu Huraira, Allah’s Apostle said, "By Him in whose hands my soul is, the son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the cross and kill the pig... (Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425) He is coming back to judge you Christians. He is coming to rectify you. And he is telling in gospel of Matthew 24:5 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.' What does Jesus say to that? He will say I never knew you! Depart from me! Yee of inequities! Evil doors! Evil mongers! You doing things in the name of Jesus etc... But to Jesus he will tell you get away. You know why? Because you call him LORD. He is not your Lord. He is not your God. That is the reason. He Jesus taught you how to pray. Jesus said: "Pray then like this: 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven...'" Where did he say Jesus Christ is father in heaven? But you Christians you have forgotten that. You are worshiping him, instead of worshiping the Father.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Impunity wrote:Impunity wrote:guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior? Whay cant you all be Christians? Do Muslims belive in Life after death? Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity? Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old. I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question. Where are the two Caliphs? Your question three: Do Muslims belive in Life after death? Answer: yes, we believe. See details below. “And fear a Day when you will be returned to Allah. Then every soul will be compensated for what it earned, and they will not be treated unjustly.” [Quran 2:281] “Every soul will taste death, and you will only be given your [full] compensation on the Day of Resurrection. So he who is drawn away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise has attained [his desire]. And what is the life of this world except the enjoyment of delusion.” “O you who have believed, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger and the Scripture which He sent down before. And whoever disbelieves in Allah , His angels, His books (Torah, Zabur, Injil and Quran), His messengers (including Jesus), and the Last Day he has certainly gone far astray” [Quran 4:136] “..[and] Allah will send water from the sky and the the dead bodies will grow like vegetation grows, ..” [Hadith #4935 in Bukhari]
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Impunity wrote:Impunity wrote:guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior? Whay cant you all be Christians? Do Muslims belive in Life after death? Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity? Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old. I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question. Where are the two Caliphs? Your last question: Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity? Answer: No, we do not believe in trinity. Islam is purely monotheist religion. We believe in One God, His name is Allah in Arabic. Quran 4:171: O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. We bear the same witness as Moses pbuh did in commandment 1! We bear witness as Jesus pbuh taught in mark 12:29! "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:" Mark 12:29 "And thou shalt love God, the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment." Mark 12:30
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:Impunity wrote:Impunity wrote:guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior? Whay cant you all be Christians? Do Muslims belive in Life after death? Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity? Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old. I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question. Where are the two Caliphs? Your question one: are Muslims also waiting the Christ return? Answer: Yes. Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h said: "There is no prophet between me and him (Jesus), and he shall descend. He… will stay in the world for forty years; then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral Prayer for him." (received by Abu Dawood) Allah says: "He (the son of Mary) shall be a known sign of the Hour; so have no doubt concerning it and follow Me." (Quran 43:61) @spikes so I was right and your friends were wrong, our jesus will come back rule for forty years ,die then the muslims, note ONLY MUSLIMS will do the funeral.Makes me we wonder; 1 where shall we the "kafiir" be by then?Hell probably? 2 what sense does it make for him not to die 2000yrs ago and come and die later after 40 yrs in presence of just muslims? why? to prove what ? that he isn't the son of God to muslim as the kafiirs see it now? 3 what sense shall it be if he will die in presence of just muslims meanwhile the Christians and ibliss who believed him to be the son of God will be in hell by then? Anyway issues about religion I come to it with my tip toes. I fear judging ,commenting and questioning. its just a hot sensitive matter and I chose to leave it here.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Bla bla bla about Islamic theories. The successful intercept of a truck to target missile is trending now. Surely Allah is displeased with such shoddy work of his gallant warriors. No virgins for the driver!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Bla bla bla about Islamic theories. The successful intercept of a truck to target missile is trending now. Surely Allah is displeased with such shoddy work of his gallant warriors. No virgins for the driver!  The Kurds and Iraqi Special Forces and to an extent the Iranian backed Shia militias are becoming adept at handling VBIEDs.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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enyands wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Impunity wrote:Impunity wrote:guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:ngapat wrote:Christians and muslims differ yet they are both waiting for the return of jesus christ I don't think Muslims are also waiting the Christ return...I may be wrong. Suprisingly you are wrong... Muslims await the return of Christ because he is the only Messiah when the end times are in motion. So why are people following 2Moha (pbuh) when you clearly be;lieve that @Christ is the ultimate savior? Whay cant you all be Christians? Do Muslims belive in Life after death? Do Muslims blieve in the Trinity? Please explain in short pros like for a 2 year old. I am surprised 6 hours later the the wazua Levants havent seen this question. Where are the two Caliphs? Your question one: are Muslims also waiting the Christ return? Answer: Yes. Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h said: "There is no prophet between me and him (Jesus), and he shall descend. He… will stay in the world for forty years; then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral Prayer for him." (received by Abu Dawood) Allah says: "He (the son of Mary) shall be a known sign of the Hour; so have no doubt concerning it and follow Me." (Quran 43:61) @spikes so I was right and your friends were wrong, our jesus will come back rule for forty years ,die then the muslims, note ONLY MUSLIMS will do the funeral.Makes me we wonder; 1 where shall we the "kafiir" be by then?Hell probably? 2 what sense does it make for him not to die 2000yrs ago and come and die later after 40 yrs in presence of just muslims? why? to prove what ? that he isn't the son of God to muslim as the kafiirs see it now? 3 what sense shall it be if he will die in presence of just muslims meanwhile the Christians and ibliss who believed him to be the son of God will be in hell by then? Anyway issues about religion I come to it with my tip toes. I fear judging ,commenting and questioning. its just a hot sensitive matter and I chose to leave it here. I am waiting with abated breath, how the @Levants and the @Caliphs willrepsond to this. I hope they wont take long. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.
Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.
Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.
Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.
Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!! I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.
Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.
Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!! I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him! It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.
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