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Taurrus
#161 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 10:00:20 PM
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Stop portraying your stupidity here and go back to school and learn what imagery is.I amy not be a son of Kiereini but I have learnt from him and general Kiguoya and in future I will have accumulated enough resources just like the two and made my kids life comfortable.
The home guards are the people who divided land to the children of mau mau.The children of home guards went to school and now running this country.Life is about making choices and I choose to be a traitor,a home guard and a Kiereini.Let us see where your kimathi or maumau will take you.I am sure your kids will join Mungiki and will be killed in the ngong forest.
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I will assume you are writing under influence and thus pass!Sad Sad Sad d'oh!
Taurrus
#162 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 10:24:57 PM
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Jesus of Nazareth didn't write a book,so some cowards did write about Him to distort history for their own benefit? BTW He died wthout a family to run to!
Same one JJ is more better for siding wth the oppressor than Matiba?
Then why do people yap for face of kenya during appointments?
The same guys who sustained an oppresive regime are now calling one kamangara and team foolish?
Ama am NOT getting it?
Obi 1 Kanobi
#163 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:27:11 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/23/2008
Posts: 3,017
masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
And let’s get a couple things straight, just a little sidenote – the burden of the brutalized is not to comfort the bystander.That’s not our job, alright – stop with all that. If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest, if you have no interest in equal rights for black people then do not make suggestions to those who do. Sit down.

I had this speech by Jesse Williams on BET and it summed up everything one would want to say on this topic in whichever language.

@Masukuma and Co. You look at the fights of other people and you judge them as stupid for fighting. You forget the simple point that its not your fight.

Everyone who went to protest during the IEBC must go were not going because RAO called, they were going because it was their fight, they believed in the cause etc.

When lawyer Willie Kimani and Co were murdered, a different group (mostly lawyers and law practitioners) took to the street to fight because it was their fight.

You think you can take crap from a white cop everyday, put up with the indignity of being treated like a second class citizen because you watch american TV.

You take your borrowed experience and now you are talking down to those who you think made bad personal choices of expecting to be treated equal to their fellow citizens, but you are wrong again.

You may play dead everyday while people pee on you and move on, then the day you wake up with a bad headache, miss the bus, your boss rides you is the day you also meet the racist cop, you end up lashing out and voila, the guy kills you. I bet someone will be writing somewhere that you should have cooperated without checking to confirm that you had been cooperating for 37 years or 50 years.

Not everyone who gets killed by these racist cops were looking to die. The 2 recent cases were 32 and 37 years, I bet they had met cops before and not got killed.

Please read again what Jesse Williams wrote in his speech, watch it on youtube and show respect for those who take a stand for what they believe in.
May be you can watch braveheart where Wallace gives his speech before the first battle with the English as wellsmile smile (fiction but still cool)

- If Jesus had cooperated we would not have Christianity
- Had Mohamed cooperated we would not have Islam
- Had Martin Luther King, Malcom X and all those black freedom fighters cooperated racism would still be alive in the US
- Had Dedan Kimathi and all those freedom fighters you are disrespecting cooperated we would not have Kenya nor Wazua for you to give your opinions.

You seem to think money or wealth is what motivates everyone, not true, some people want a dignified life. The length of one's life is not necessarily under their control, if you doubt ask Lawyer Willie Kimani.

In short history is only changed by those who challenge the status quo, no matter how silly their cause seems to the casual observers.

@obi - different strokes for different folks! I will tell you where you get lost.
1) you seem to think because someone has disqualified me from speaking - I should remain disqualified... he is not the boss of me! I speak without licence. heck I don't even have to be consistent with what I said before. Because someone said it in a poem or wrote it in prose - it should bind me.
2) You also think that it's binary... that life or human existence is binary i.e. that there only two positions. you have to be pro-something or anti-something. nah... it's a continuum and sometimes it's not just on one plane.
3) I accept that you can see my decision making as being 'wrong' - which is fine. I am an opportunist. my decision making is fueled by nothing but individualistic and parochial interests. Your worldview like mine acknowledges 'the greater good' and like you I believe that it's the better way of humans to live. But I am trying to profit on the status quo as well and keep my head on my neck and as soon as your greater good becomes the status quo - I can guarantee you true to my form I will be on your side. I am just unwilling to pay any price for 'the greater good' to come through because there are enough putzes to lay down their lives for 'the greater good'. Sitaki kufinywa mapumbu like jamaa fulani tunajua coz of principles....


To each their own.

I am surprised by the Benjamin Franklin signature you carry though. Completely contradicts what you are saying here.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
AlphDoti
#164 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 11:25:59 AM
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masukuma
#165 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:32:28 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
And let’s get a couple things straight, just a little sidenote – the burden of the brutalized is not to comfort the bystander.That’s not our job, alright – stop with all that. If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest, if you have no interest in equal rights for black people then do not make suggestions to those who do. Sit down.

I had this speech by Jesse Williams on BET and it summed up everything one would want to say on this topic in whichever language.

@Masukuma and Co. You look at the fights of other people and you judge them as stupid for fighting. You forget the simple point that its not your fight.

Everyone who went to protest during the IEBC must go were not going because RAO called, they were going because it was their fight, they believed in the cause etc.

When lawyer Willie Kimani and Co were murdered, a different group (mostly lawyers and law practitioners) took to the street to fight because it was their fight.

You think you can take crap from a white cop everyday, put up with the indignity of being treated like a second class citizen because you watch american TV.

You take your borrowed experience and now you are talking down to those who you think made bad personal choices of expecting to be treated equal to their fellow citizens, but you are wrong again.

You may play dead everyday while people pee on you and move on, then the day you wake up with a bad headache, miss the bus, your boss rides you is the day you also meet the racist cop, you end up lashing out and voila, the guy kills you. I bet someone will be writing somewhere that you should have cooperated without checking to confirm that you had been cooperating for 37 years or 50 years.

Not everyone who gets killed by these racist cops were looking to die. The 2 recent cases were 32 and 37 years, I bet they had met cops before and not got killed.

Please read again what Jesse Williams wrote in his speech, watch it on youtube and show respect for those who take a stand for what they believe in.
May be you can watch braveheart where Wallace gives his speech before the first battle with the English as wellsmile smile (fiction but still cool)

- If Jesus had cooperated we would not have Christianity
- Had Mohamed cooperated we would not have Islam
- Had Martin Luther King, Malcom X and all those black freedom fighters cooperated racism would still be alive in the US
- Had Dedan Kimathi and all those freedom fighters you are disrespecting cooperated we would not have Kenya nor Wazua for you to give your opinions.

You seem to think money or wealth is what motivates everyone, not true, some people want a dignified life. The length of one's life is not necessarily under their control, if you doubt ask Lawyer Willie Kimani.

In short history is only changed by those who challenge the status quo, no matter how silly their cause seems to the casual observers.

@obi - different strokes for different folks! I will tell you where you get lost.
1) you seem to think because someone has disqualified me from speaking - I should remain disqualified... he is not the boss of me! I speak without licence. heck I don't even have to be consistent with what I said before. Because someone said it in a poem or wrote it in prose - it should bind me.
2) You also think that it's binary... that life or human existence is binary i.e. that there only two positions. you have to be pro-something or anti-something. nah... it's a continuum and sometimes it's not just on one plane.
3) I accept that you can see my decision making as being 'wrong' - which is fine. I am an opportunist. my decision making is fueled by nothing but individualistic and parochial interests. Your worldview like mine acknowledges 'the greater good' and like you I believe that it's the better way of humans to live. But I am trying to profit on the status quo as well and keep my head on my neck and as soon as your greater good becomes the status quo - I can guarantee you true to my form I will be on your side. I am just unwilling to pay any price for 'the greater good' to come through because there are enough putzes to lay down their lives for 'the greater good'. Sitaki kufinywa mapumbu like jamaa fulani tunajua coz of principles....


To each their own.

I am surprised by the Benjamin Franklin signature you carry though. Completely contradicts what you are saying here.

the key is the statement 'I don't even have to be consistent with what I said before'. I can flip flop as I wish - that's the nature of us opportunists. We only have one side... OUR SIDE Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
enyands
#166 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:22:51 AM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
And let’s get a couple things straight, just a little sidenote – the burden of the brutalized is not to comfort the bystander.That’s not our job, alright – stop with all that. If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest, if you have no interest in equal rights for black people then do not make suggestions to those who do. Sit down.

I had this speech by Jesse Williams on BET and it summed up everything one would want to say on this topic in whichever language.

@Masukuma and Co. You look at the fights of other people and you judge them as stupid for fighting. You forget the simple point that its not your fight.

Everyone who went to protest during the IEBC must go were not going because RAO called, they were going because it was their fight, they believed in the cause etc.

When lawyer Willie Kimani and Co were murdered, a different group (mostly lawyers and law practitioners) took to the street to fight because it was their fight.

You think you can take crap from a white cop everyday, put up with the indignity of being treated like a second class citizen because you watch american TV.

You take your borrowed experience and now you are talking down to those who you think made bad personal choices of expecting to be treated equal to their fellow citizens, but you are wrong again.

You may play dead everyday while people pee on you and move on, then the day you wake up with a bad headache, miss the bus, your boss rides you is the day you also meet the racist cop, you end up lashing out and voila, the guy kills you. I bet someone will be writing somewhere that you should have cooperated without checking to confirm that you had been cooperating for 37 years or 50 years.

Not everyone who gets killed by these racist cops were looking to die. The 2 recent cases were 32 and 37 years, I bet they had met cops before and not got killed.

Please read again what Jesse Williams wrote in his speech, watch it on youtube and show respect for those who take a stand for what they believe in.
May be you can watch braveheart where Wallace gives his speech before the first battle with the English as wellsmile smile (fiction but still cool)

- If Jesus had cooperated we would not have Christianity
- Had Mohamed cooperated we would not have Islam
- Had Martin Luther King, Malcom X and all those black freedom fighters cooperated racism would still be alive in the US
- Had Dedan Kimathi and all those freedom fighters you are disrespecting cooperated we would not have Kenya nor Wazua for you to give your opinions.

You seem to think money or wealth is what motivates everyone, not true, some people want a dignified life. The length of one's life is not necessarily under their control, if you doubt ask Lawyer Willie Kimani.

In short history is only changed by those who challenge the status quo, no matter how silly their cause seems to the casual observers.

@obi - different strokes for different folks! I will tell you where you get lost.
1) you seem to think because someone has disqualified me from speaking - I should remain disqualified... he is not the boss of me! I speak without licence. heck I don't even have to be consistent with what I said before. Because someone said it in a poem or wrote it in prose - it should bind me.
2) You also think that it's binary... that life or human existence is binary i.e. that there only two positions. you have to be pro-something or anti-something. nah... it's a continuum and sometimes it's not just on one plane.
3) I accept that you can see my decision making as being 'wrong' - which is fine. I am an opportunist. my decision making is fueled by nothing but individualistic and parochial interests. Your worldview like mine acknowledges 'the greater good' and like you I believe that it's the better way of humans to live. But I am trying to profit on the status quo as well and keep my head on my neck and as soon as your greater good becomes the status quo - I can guarantee you true to my form I will be on your side. I am just unwilling to pay any price for 'the greater good' to come through because there are enough putzes to lay down their lives for 'the greater good'. Sitaki kufinywa mapumbu like jamaa fulani tunajua coz of principles....


To each their own.

I am surprised by the Benjamin Franklin signature you carry though. Completely contradicts what you are saying here.

the key is the statement 'I don't even have to be consistent with what I said before'. I can flip flop as I wish - that's the nature of us opportunists. We only have one side... OUR SIDE Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


For those Africans here who feel sorry for african americans this is what they feel about you africans full of diseases ,let's discuss videos(20 points) ::::




Then my hero (God bless his heart )has this to say in response to the above video (20 points)::::


enyands
#167 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:34:24 AM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
d'oh!
Kratos
#168 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:01:08 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 1,694
enyands wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
And let’s get a couple things straight, just a little sidenote – the burden of the brutalized is not to comfort the bystander.That’s not our job, alright – stop with all that. If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest, if you have no interest in equal rights for black people then do not make suggestions to those who do. Sit down.

I had this speech by Jesse Williams on BET and it summed up everything one would want to say on this topic in whichever language.

@Masukuma and Co. You look at the fights of other people and you judge them as stupid for fighting. You forget the simple point that its not your fight.

Everyone who went to protest during the IEBC must go were not going because RAO called, they were going because it was their fight, they believed in the cause etc.

When lawyer Willie Kimani and Co were murdered, a different group (mostly lawyers and law practitioners) took to the street to fight because it was their fight.

You think you can take crap from a white cop everyday, put up with the indignity of being treated like a second class citizen because you watch american TV.

You take your borrowed experience and now you are talking down to those who you think made bad personal choices of expecting to be treated equal to their fellow citizens, but you are wrong again.

You may play dead everyday while people pee on you and move on, then the day you wake up with a bad headache, miss the bus, your boss rides you is the day you also meet the racist cop, you end up lashing out and voila, the guy kills you. I bet someone will be writing somewhere that you should have cooperated without checking to confirm that you had been cooperating for 37 years or 50 years.

Not everyone who gets killed by these racist cops were looking to die. The 2 recent cases were 32 and 37 years, I bet they had met cops before and not got killed.

Please read again what Jesse Williams wrote in his speech, watch it on youtube and show respect for those who take a stand for what they believe in.
May be you can watch braveheart where Wallace gives his speech before the first battle with the English as wellsmile smile (fiction but still cool)

- If Jesus had cooperated we would not have Christianity
- Had Mohamed cooperated we would not have Islam
- Had Martin Luther King, Malcom X and all those black freedom fighters cooperated racism would still be alive in the US
- Had Dedan Kimathi and all those freedom fighters you are disrespecting cooperated we would not have Kenya nor Wazua for you to give your opinions.

You seem to think money or wealth is what motivates everyone, not true, some people want a dignified life. The length of one's life is not necessarily under their control, if you doubt ask Lawyer Willie Kimani.

In short history is only changed by those who challenge the status quo, no matter how silly their cause seems to the casual observers.

@obi - different strokes for different folks! I will tell you where you get lost.
1) you seem to think because someone has disqualified me from speaking - I should remain disqualified... he is not the boss of me! I speak without licence. heck I don't even have to be consistent with what I said before. Because someone said it in a poem or wrote it in prose - it should bind me.
2) You also think that it's binary... that life or human existence is binary i.e. that there only two positions. you have to be pro-something or anti-something. nah... it's a continuum and sometimes it's not just on one plane.
3) I accept that you can see my decision making as being 'wrong' - which is fine. I am an opportunist. my decision making is fueled by nothing but individualistic and parochial interests. Your worldview like mine acknowledges 'the greater good' and like you I believe that it's the better way of humans to live. But I am trying to profit on the status quo as well and keep my head on my neck and as soon as your greater good becomes the status quo - I can guarantee you true to my form I will be on your side. I am just unwilling to pay any price for 'the greater good' to come through because there are enough putzes to lay down their lives for 'the greater good'. Sitaki kufinywa mapumbu like jamaa fulani tunajua coz of principles....


To each their own.

I am surprised by the Benjamin Franklin signature you carry though. Completely contradicts what you are saying here.

the key is the statement 'I don't even have to be consistent with what I said before'. I can flip flop as I wish - that's the nature of us opportunists. We only have one side... OUR SIDE Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


For those Africans here who feel sorry for african americans this is what they feel about you africans full of diseases ,let's discuss videos(20 points) ::::


It may come as a surprise to you that there are 90,000 Kenyans in the US who apparently are black and by default suffer the same discrimination, brutality and oppression. Also lumping all Black Americans into one group of bigots is similar to what some white idiots are doing by portraying all Black Americans as lower level citizens. Kettle calling the pot black kind of thing.


“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
enyands
#169 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 6:43:30 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
Kratos wrote:
enyands wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
And let’s get a couple things straight, just a little sidenote – the burden of the brutalized is not to comfort the bystander.That’s not our job, alright – stop with all that. If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest, if you have no interest in equal rights for black people then do not make suggestions to those who do. Sit down.

I had this speech by Jesse Williams on BET and it summed up everything one would want to say on this topic in whichever language.

@Masukuma and Co. You look at the fights of other people and you judge them as stupid for fighting. You forget the simple point that its not your fight.

Everyone who went to protest during the IEBC must go were not going because RAO called, they were going because it was their fight, they believed in the cause etc.

When lawyer Willie Kimani and Co were murdered, a different group (mostly lawyers and law practitioners) took to the street to fight because it was their fight.

You think you can take crap from a white cop everyday, put up with the indignity of being treated like a second class citizen because you watch american TV.

You take your borrowed experience and now you are talking down to those who you think made bad personal choices of expecting to be treated equal to their fellow citizens, but you are wrong again.

You may play dead everyday while people pee on you and move on, then the day you wake up with a bad headache, miss the bus, your boss rides you is the day you also meet the racist cop, you end up lashing out and voila, the guy kills you. I bet someone will be writing somewhere that you should have cooperated without checking to confirm that you had been cooperating for 37 years or 50 years.

Not everyone who gets killed by these racist cops were looking to die. The 2 recent cases were 32 and 37 years, I bet they had met cops before and not got killed.

Please read again what Jesse Williams wrote in his speech, watch it on youtube and show respect for those who take a stand for what they believe in.
May be you can watch braveheart where Wallace gives his speech before the first battle with the English as wellsmile smile (fiction but still cool)

- If Jesus had cooperated we would not have Christianity
- Had Mohamed cooperated we would not have Islam
- Had Martin Luther King, Malcom X and all those black freedom fighters cooperated racism would still be alive in the US
- Had Dedan Kimathi and all those freedom fighters you are disrespecting cooperated we would not have Kenya nor Wazua for you to give your opinions.

You seem to think money or wealth is what motivates everyone, not true, some people want a dignified life. The length of one's life is not necessarily under their control, if you doubt ask Lawyer Willie Kimani.

In short history is only changed by those who challenge the status quo, no matter how silly their cause seems to the casual observers.

@obi - different strokes for different folks! I will tell you where you get lost.
1) you seem to think because someone has disqualified me from speaking - I should remain disqualified... he is not the boss of me! I speak without licence. heck I don't even have to be consistent with what I said before. Because someone said it in a poem or wrote it in prose - it should bind me.
2) You also think that it's binary... that life or human existence is binary i.e. that there only two positions. you have to be pro-something or anti-something. nah... it's a continuum and sometimes it's not just on one plane.
3) I accept that you can see my decision making as being 'wrong' - which is fine. I am an opportunist. my decision making is fueled by nothing but individualistic and parochial interests. Your worldview like mine acknowledges 'the greater good' and like you I believe that it's the better way of humans to live. But I am trying to profit on the status quo as well and keep my head on my neck and as soon as your greater good becomes the status quo - I can guarantee you true to my form I will be on your side. I am just unwilling to pay any price for 'the greater good' to come through because there are enough putzes to lay down their lives for 'the greater good'. Sitaki kufinywa mapumbu like jamaa fulani tunajua coz of principles....


To each their own.

I am surprised by the Benjamin Franklin signature you carry though. Completely contradicts what you are saying here.

the key is the statement 'I don't even have to be consistent with what I said before'. I can flip flop as I wish - that's the nature of us opportunists. We only have one side... OUR SIDE Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


For those Africans here who feel sorry for african americans this is what they feel about you africans full of diseases ,let's discuss videos(20 points) ::::


It may come as a surprise to you that there are 90,000 Kenyans in the US who apparently are black and by default suffer the same discrimination, brutality and oppression. Also lumping all Black Americans into one group of bigots is similar to what some white idiots are doing by portraying all Black Americans as lower level citizens. Kettle calling the pot black kind of thing.



Kratos
#170 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 11:35:23 AM
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Joined: 9/19/2011
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On Sunday, a man identified as Gavin Long of Kansas City went on a shooting rampage on his 29th birthday that left two police officers and a sheriff's deputy dead, police sources said. Long, who was African-American, was a former Marine who spent time in Iraq and was discharged at the rank of sergeant in 2010, according to the U.S. military.


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President Barack Obama on Sunday condemned the killings and all attacks on law enforcement.
"We as a nation have to be loud and clear that nothing justifies violence against law enforcement," Obama said, speaking from the White House press briefing room. "Attacks on police are an attack on all of us and the rule of law that makes society possible." In a written statement earlier in the day, Obama called the Baton Rough shootings a "cowardly and reprehensible assault."

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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