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Bear 2015 Wish List
murchr
#141 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 8:37:09 PM
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Chaka wrote:
I need some education..lets take TPSEA today for e,g There were zero trades.Does this mean that there were shares for sale but the asking prices were higher than the offer prices or what?


Total demand = 7900
Supply = 0
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Chaka
#142 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 8:38:53 PM
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I need some education..lets take TPSEA today for e,g there were zero trades.Does this mean that there were shares for sale but the asking prices were higher than the offer prices or what?
Pesa Nane
#143 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 9:39:45 PM
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Chaka wrote:
I need some education..lets take TPSEA today for e,g there were zero trades.Does this mean that there were shares for sale but the asking prices were higher than the offer prices or what?


Possibilities:
1. No buyers ie no bids
2. No sellers ie no offers
3. Price mismatch ie available buyers bid lower than what the sellers are offering
4. Market is closed smile
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Aguytrying
#144 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:11:03 AM
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DBLyon wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Look at NIC now gearing to lose the 35 handle

my keen eye blinking now, I need some substance to dissuade me from loosing focus. wao


The options are so many thank God I have all the info I need.
I have since raised equity buy maximum price to 37.00 from yesterday and today I see equity is about to break lower. My eye tells me that.

The wish list, which looked too ambitious last year has stood the test of time. I've been buying and will continue. With equity the apple of my eye


Why is Equity the apple of your eye?


Among other reasons. It's the best, biggest, fastest growing, good potential blue chip bank on the NSE
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#145 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:16:10 AM
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Chaka wrote:
I need some education..lets take TPSEA today for e,g there were zero trades.Does this mean that there were shares for sale but the asking prices were higher than the offer prices or what?


Basically. No bids were matched. Meaning if the best selling price was 22 no buyer matched it. Or if the highest buying bid was 20 no seller sold his shares at that bid. For whatever reason including no bids on the either side of buying or selling
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
sparkly
#146 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:25:18 PM
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NMG at 130. The bear is truly in town. Watch out for the traditional support at 118-120 and 112-115.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Fyatu
#147 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:05:31 PM
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ARM at 29.50.....what is the status with IFC? How much is the dilution?
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
hisah
#148 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:16:19 PM
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sparkly wrote:
NMG at 130. The bear is truly in town. Watch out for the traditional support at 118-120 and 112-115.

A lot of weakness is behind the recent rebound from that support zone. I expect that support to break down! Sub 100 will shock the passengers! Sit tight.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#149 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:18:41 PM
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Museveni wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
The bear is upon us! Emotions play a significant role in choosing what to buy and at what price. We all know the temptation to bottom fish to get the lowest prices, but its difficult to achieve.

Then there's the pain of being left by a share after a failed bottom fishing manoeuvre.

In light of this I've come up with a systematic way of buying this time round.
Using a P|E range of between 7-5.5 and EPS of 2014 or 2013 where necessary. Here is MY wishlist. There are many other good shares, ill be sticking with these for now.

STOCK EPS TARGET PRICE PE 5.5-7 CURRENT PRICE

EQUITY 4.63 25-33 39.25
KCB 5.63 30-40 46.00
NIC 7.07 38-49 49.00
NSE 2.13 12-15 20.00
DTB 21.92 120-154 204.00
HFCK 2.75 15-20 21.50

JUBILEE 48 264-340 560.00
PAN AFRICA 6.05 33-43 67.00

SAFARICOM 0.8 8-10(10-12 PE) 14.00
NATION 13.1 72-100 (unlikely) 184.00
TPS SERENA 3.45 20-25 (2013 EPS) 33.00

BAMBURI 9.80 98-130 154.00
KENOL KOBIL 0.74 5-7 (6.7-9.5 PE) 8.50
EABL 11.31 113- 170(10-15 PE) 295.00
ARM 3.01 30-45 61.00
BAT 42.55 300-450 741.00
CROWN PAINTS 3.01 17-21 62.00
FLAME TREE 0.99 6-7 7.50
BOC 11.76 65-85 133.00


The price in green was in August 2015, almost 1 year ago. compare with today
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Othelo
#150 Posted: : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:29:35 PM
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Joined: 1/20/2014
Posts: 3,528
Aguytrying wrote:
Museveni wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
The bear is upon us! Emotions play a significant role in choosing what to buy and at what price. We all know the temptation to bottom fish to get the lowest prices, but its difficult to achieve.

Then there's the pain of being left by a share after a failed bottom fishing manoeuvre.

In light of this I've come up with a systematic way of buying this time round.
Using a P|E range of between 7-5.5 and EPS of 2014 or 2013 where necessary. Here is MY wishlist. There are many other good shares, ill be sticking with these for now.

STOCK EPS TARGET PRICE PE 5.5-7 CURRENT PRICE

EQUITY 4.63 25-33 39.25
KCB 5.63 30-40 46.00
NIC 7.07 38-49 49.00
NSE 2.13 12-15 20.00
DTB 21.92 120-154 204.00
HFCK 2.75 15-20 21.50

JUBILEE 48 264-340 560.00
PAN AFRICA 6.05 33-43 67.00

SAFARICOM 0.8 8-10(10-12 PE) 14.00
NATION 13.1 72-100 (unlikely) 184.00
TPS SERENA 3.45 20-25 (2013 EPS) 33.00

BAMBURI 9.80 98-130 154.00
KENOL KOBIL 0.74 5-7 (6.7-9.5 PE) 8.50
EABL 11.31 113- 170(10-15 PE) 295.00
ARM 3.01 30-45 61.00
BAT 42.55 300-450 741.00
CROWN PAINTS 3.01 17-21 62.00
FLAME TREE 0.99 6-7 7.50
BOC 11.76 65-85 133.00


The price in green was in August 2015, almost 1 year ago. compare with today

Apart from three ... Safaricom, BAT and KK, the rest have had their prices massacred smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
lochaz-index
#151 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:49:55 PM
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hisah wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NMG at 130. The bear is truly in town. Watch out for the traditional support at 118-120 and 112-115.

A lot of weakness is behind the recent rebound from that support zone. I expect that support to break down! Sub 100 will shock the passengers! Sit tight.

Mainstream media will soon have its 'kodak' moment. The global trend is either a company adapts to the changing world or it's swept away.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
sparkly
#152 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 2:20:47 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
hisah wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NMG at 130. The bear is truly in town. Watch out for the traditional support at 118-120 and 112-115.

A lot of weakness is behind the recent rebound from that support zone. I expect that support to break down! Sub 100 will shock the passengers! Sit tight.

Mainstream media will soon have its 'kodak' moment. The global trend is either a company adapts to the changing world or it's swept away.


NMG will weather the storm but they need to restructure and diversify fast.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Aguytrying
#153 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:58:14 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
Othelo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Museveni wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
The bear is upon us! Emotions play a significant role in choosing what to buy and at what price. We all know the temptation to bottom fish to get the lowest prices, but its difficult to achieve.

Then there's the pain of being left by a share after a failed bottom fishing manoeuvre.

In light of this I've come up with a systematic way of buying this time round.
Using a P|E range of between 7-5.5 and EPS of 2014 or 2013 where necessary. Here is MY wishlist. There are many other good shares, ill be sticking with these for now.

STOCK EPS TARGET PRICE PE 5.5-7 CURRENT PRICE

EQUITY 4.63 25-33 39.25
KCB 5.63 30-40 46.00
NIC 7.07 38-49 49.00
NSE 2.13 12-15 20.00
DTB 21.92 120-154 204.00
HFCK 2.75 15-20 21.50

JUBILEE 48 264-340 560.00
PAN AFRICA 6.05 33-43 67.00

SAFARICOM 0.8 8-10(10-12 PE) 14.00
NATION 13.1 72-100 (unlikely) 184.00
TPS SERENA 3.45 20-25 (2013 EPS) 33.00

BAMBURI 9.80 98-130 154.00
KENOL KOBIL 0.74 5-7 (6.7-9.5 PE) 8.50
EABL 11.31 113- 170(10-15 PE) 295.00
ARM 3.01 30-45 61.00
BAT 42.55 300-450 741.00
CROWN PAINTS 3.01 17-21 62.00
FLAME TREE 0.99 6-7 7.50
BOC 11.76 65-85 133.00


The price in green was in August 2015, almost 1 year ago. compare with today

Apart from three ... Safaricom, BAT and KK, the rest have had their prices massacred smile


Quite true. Safaricom, BAT, KK and Bamburi have actually GAINED!
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
snipermnoma
#154 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:34:17 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 257
Aguytrying wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Museveni wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
The bear is upon us! Emotions play a significant role in choosing what to buy and at what price. We all know the temptation to bottom fish to get the lowest prices, but its difficult to achieve.

Then there's the pain of being left by a share after a failed bottom fishing manoeuvre.

In light of this I've come up with a systematic way of buying this time round.
Using a P|E range of between 7-5.5 and EPS of 2014 or 2013 where necessary. Here is MY wishlist. There are many other good shares, ill be sticking with these for now.

STOCK EPS TARGET PRICE PE 5.5-7 CURRENT PRICE

EQUITY 4.63 25-33 39.25
KCB 5.63 30-40 46.00
NIC 7.07 38-49 49.00
NSE 2.13 12-15 20.00
DTB 21.92 120-154 204.00
HFCK 2.75 15-20 21.50

JUBILEE 48 264-340 560.00
PAN AFRICA 6.05 33-43 67.00

SAFARICOM 0.8 8-10(10-12 PE) 14.00
NATION 13.1 72-100 (unlikely) 184.00
TPS SERENA 3.45 20-25 (2013 EPS) 33.00

BAMBURI 9.80 98-130 154.00
KENOL KOBIL 0.74 5-7 (6.7-9.5 PE) 8.50
EABL 11.31 113- 170(10-15 PE) 295.00
ARM 3.01 30-45 61.00
BAT 42.55 300-450 741.00
CROWN PAINTS 3.01 17-21 62.00
FLAME TREE 0.99 6-7 7.50
BOC 11.76 65-85 133.00


The price in green was in August 2015, almost 1 year ago. compare with today

Apart from three ... Safaricom, BAT and KK, the rest have had their prices massacred smile


Quite true. Safaricom, BAT, KK and Bamburi have actually GAINED!


Another day passes and the wishlist targets continue to come into range. Aguytrying, kudos...your predictions becoming a reality.
Aguytrying
#155 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:12:19 PM
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Thanks sniper. I'm even surprised by some declines but majority are within range now
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
hisah
#156 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2016 3:34:52 PM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
hisah wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NMG at 130. The bear is truly in town. Watch out for the traditional support at 118-120 and 112-115.

A lot of weakness is behind the recent rebound from that support zone. I expect that support to break down! Sub 100 will shock the passengers! Sit tight.

VWAP closes at 120. Right on support and on vol spike! This will be tough to watch as the leakage gathers speed.

@aguy will you buy at 100 smile Crazy!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#157 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2016 7:28:15 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NMG at 130. The bear is truly in town. Watch out for the traditional support at 118-120 and 112-115.

A lot of weakness is behind the recent rebound from that support zone. I expect that support to break down! Sub 100 will shock the passengers! Sit tight.

VWAP closes at 120. Right on support and on vol spike! This will be tough to watch as the leakage gathers speed.

@aguy will you buy at 100 smile Crazy!


Wow. Note i said unlikely to print, that's how much I'm surprised. The value investor in me will buy at that price. They should have learnt from kodak that's my view. But shoking!!
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
littledove
#158 Posted : Friday, August 12, 2016 3:22:53 PM
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i have a bear wishlist of around seven stocks
two of them have reached my target scangroup and cic. i have already done buying scangroup and started cic.
i have decided once my target is reached i buy without turning back. i have a target of 3 to five years.
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
hisah
#159 Posted : Friday, August 12, 2016 3:30:03 PM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
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littledove wrote:
i have a bear wishlist of around seven stocks
two of them have reached my target scangroup and cic. i have already done buying scangroup and started cic.
i have decided once my target is reached i buy without turning back. i have a target of 3 to five years.

The right focus is what is needed during the big bear season. Good work Applause
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Ebenyo
#160 Posted : Friday, August 12, 2016 3:59:20 PM
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[quote=hisah][quote=littledove]i have a bear wishlist of around seven stocks
two of them have reached my target scangroup and cic. i have already done buying scangroup and started cic.
i have decided once my target is reached i buy without turning back. i have a target of 3 to five years.

@little dove,can you pliz share your wish list? i also wish for five more stocks as i continue to build my ideal portfolio.
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