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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
muandiwambeu
#4821 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 11:00:46 AM
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obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later

well done. that's paves way for @spikes target of 2bob to materialise. hoping u won't play ppt on this one. @maka, gives us more tidings of the forthcoming bombshell. will it be tears of joy or tears of blood. I can smell blood a mile away and blood it is.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
maka
#4822 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 11:01:28 AM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation.

It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO


He is going home...wait and see.
possunt quia posse videntur
mlennyma
#4823 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 11:05:45 AM
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enyands wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


168,000 KQ shares can only make a 1.6-millionaire, should KQ rise to 10 bob a share in 5 years as you project!.

Menawhile us we are waing to deep in at sub 2 bob and be 16-Miliionaire in the same period.

Please, sell now and wait for the sub 2 bob windfall.

this stock needs someone who is very alert to offload before anybody can think of a rights issue,otherwise you have to keep spare money aside.



Can't fail to notice that according to sir karasinga if this thing hits 8 bob, it would have gained sh 4 in less than 4 months whereas kk is projected to have gained only sh2 in two years. So my belief is don't over fantasize some stocks to be better than others.any stock can make you money.im sure obiero will cash in in this one before kk guys .

i believe no one holds a stock at gun point, much as it's true you can't marry all women.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
ArrestedDev
#4824 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 11:05:50 AM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation.

It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO


He is going home...wait and see.


Indeed, this guy should go not because I do not like him but since I need to see a better KQ. I am very disheartened when we play second fiddle to people whom we should not be just because of an incompetent manager.
obiero
#4825 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 11:59:02 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation.

It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO


He is going home...wait and see.


Indeed, this guy should go not because I do not like him but since I need to see a better KQ. I am very disheartened when we play second fiddle to people whom we should not be just because of an incompetent manager.

I would prefer that he stays, but with GoK anything is possible. He is a wise man and time will proove it. KQ share now at KES 4.30 with signs of rapid upturn very evident supported by a volume of 6,312,200 traded today. The big question remains, who is this buying the share in such huge volume a couple of days to release of 'terrible' results.. 13 days to go

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
Impunity
#4826 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 3:52:12 PM
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obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation.

It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO


He is going home...wait and see.


Indeed, this guy should go not because I do not like him but since I need to see a better KQ. I am very disheartened when we play second fiddle to people whom we should not be just because of an incompetent manager.

I would prefer that he stays, but with GoK anything is possible. He is a wise man and time will proove it. KQ share now at KES 4.30 with signs of rapid upturn very evident supported by a volume of 6,312,200 traded today. The big question remains, who is this buying the share in such huge volume a couple of days to release of 'terrible' results.. 13 days to go


Answer = a Fellow Lunatic.

Sad
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#4827 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 4:19:16 PM
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Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation.

It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO


He is going home...wait and see.


Indeed, this guy should go not because I do not like him but since I need to see a better KQ. I am very disheartened when we play second fiddle to people whom we should not be just because of an incompetent manager.

I would prefer that he stays, but with GoK anything is possible. He is a wise man and time will proove it. KQ share now at KES 4.30 with signs of rapid upturn very evident supported by a volume of 6,312,200 traded today. The big question remains, who is this buying the share in such huge volume a couple of days to release of 'terrible' results.. 13 days to go


Answer = a Fellow Lunatic.

Sad

I think so too Applause

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
obiero
#4828 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 4:26:55 PM
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10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses
3. Rightsizing of the workforce
4. Fuel efficient planes
5. Route optimization
6. Category 1 status at main hub
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out
8. Sale of non critical assets
9. Global reduction in fuel costs
10. Revival in KE tourism
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class
12. Cleaned-up board and management
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
karasinga
#4829 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 4:38:37 PM
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obiero wrote:
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses
3. Rightsizing of the workforce
4. Fuel efficient planes
5. Route optimization
6. Category 1 status at main hub
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out
8. Sale of non critical assets
9. Global reduction in fuel costs
10. Revival in KE tourism
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class
12. Cleaned-up board and management
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers

smile hopefully one day I will come to understand how to get fundamentals and analyse them. I think together with technical will be an arsenal. baby steps. ..
It's not over until I win
skype id: karasinga. email: kkarasinga@gmail.com
obiero
#4830 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 5:27:53 PM
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karasinga wrote:
obiero wrote:
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride at KQ with clear cost saving impact:
1. End of hedging policy = USD 8m monthly
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses = USD 1m monthly
3. Rightsizing of the workforce = USD 20m annually
4. Fuel efficient planes = USD 2m monthly
5. Route optimization
6. Category 1 status at main hub
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out
8. Sale of non critical assets = USD 25m once off
9. Global reduction in fuel costs
10. Revival in KE tourism
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class
12. Cleaned-up board and management
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers

smile hopefully one day I will come to understand how to get fundamentals and analyse them. I think together with technical will be an arsenal. baby steps. ..

You will get there man. I rarely rely on technical mainly because insider information rarely gets factored in the charts. Since 2006 I have thrived on the '2-steps-ahead advantage' courtesy of the Stanley's Exchange Bar and its club of wise men..

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
ArrestedDev
#4831 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 6:40:25 PM
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Good riddance for KQ but they need to net more local pax rather than allowing foreign carriers to cash in.


Quote:
The International Air Transport Association (IATA) has instructed travel agents to remit cash from ticket sales every 15 days as opposed to the current monthly payments, a move intended to improve airlines’ cashflow.


http://www.businessdaily...62/-/6lya2f/-/index.html
ArrestedDev
#4832 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 2:15:08 AM
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obiero wrote:
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy - Until end of 2016, some up to 2017
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses - Operational issues still there leading to cancellations
3. Rightsizing of the workforce - New hires required in the long run. Only a short term measure
4. Fuel efficient planes- Fuel expense still a major cost for an airline
5. Route optimization - Few options within African continent/ Fierce competition
6. Category 1 status at main hub - KQ not ready to take advantage of it. Huge working capital outlay required to get the fleet back.
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out - Repayment need to be done in the long run
8. Sale of non critical assets - Leads to reduced capacity/ Increase in operational costs e.g. lease of landing slot
9. Global reduction in fuel costs - Inefficiencies in fuel procurement will hinder full benefits
10. Revival in KE tourism - A plus but KQ flies to a few source markets
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class - Expansion required going forward/ Entry of Fasjet
12. Cleaned-up board and management - More needs to be done e.g. CEO need to be axed, substantive Finance head need to be appointed
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers - Longer tenure leads to higher interest cost
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers- Leads to dilution of shares


The underlying problem is revenue growth. The airline has a huge cost base and without revenue growth, it will take a considerable period of time to turnaround.
VituVingiSana
#4833 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:16:56 AM
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RwandAir to open Mumbai route in December - CEO
http://www.newtimes.co.r...icle/2016-07-13/201638/

"...four flights to Mumbai per week in December 2016 flying its brand new A330-300 aircraft."
"The national carrier is IATA Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) certified, which guarantees its safety and airworthiness."

"Currently, the airline flies to 17 destinations, including Nairobi, Entebbe, Mombasa, Bujumbura, Lusaka, Juba, Douala, Dar es Salaam, Kilimanjaro, Johannesburg, Dubai, Lagos, Libreville and Brazzaville."
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#4834 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:36:06 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy - Until end of 2016, some up to 2017
But welcome move with some of its stock priced at KES 88 against current price of KES 35
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses - Operational issues still there leading to cancellations
OTP currently at 85 with cancellation being managed
3. Rightsizing of the workforce - New hires required in the long run. Only a short term measure
Lower staff costs even in the interim is welcome. We will hire more once we are well
4. Fuel efficient planes- Fuel expense still a major cost for an airline
More reason as to why the fuel costs must be tight via newer craft. KQ now has the 5th youngest fleet in aviation, globally
5. Route optimization - Few options within African continent/ Fierce competition
Shedding off on non viable or low revenue routes was mandatory
6. Category 1 status at main hub - KQ not ready to take advantage of it. Huge working capital outlay required to get the fleet back.
Increased safety for travel cannot be overstated. Even without direct US flights
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out - Repayment need to be done in the long run
Agreed but isn't it better to pay GoK 4% than banks at 16%
8. Sale of non critical assets - Leads to reduced capacity/ Increase in operational costs e.g. lease of landing slot
The land at Embakasi, obsolete craft that depreciated by the hour. These had to go. The landing slot was not a key asset
9. Global reduction in fuel costs - Inefficiencies in fuel procurement will hinder full benefits KQ has set up a transformational office that manages procurement by way of committe
10. Revival in KE tourism - A plus but KQ flies to a few source markets KQ shall not fly to each and every country. We shall focus on sweating the assets on revenue generating targets
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class - Expansion required going forward/ Entry of Fasjet Jambojet marketshare in Kenya is currently 90% for the 3 major routes. We can ceed market share to Fastjet, Easyjet and the others but still survive
12. Cleaned-up board and management - More needs to be done e.g. CEO need to be axed, substantive Finance head need to be appointed Only the CEO remains. Ngunze is a cerified CPA K with Harvard training.. He can double up as the CFO for now
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers - Longer tenure leads to higher interest cost Higher interest in the long run but we aim to retire the debt by way of principal repayments once profitability resumes by H1 2016-2017
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers- Leads to dilution of sharesPJT aim to look at a mix of finance initiatives including but not limited to KLM pumping in additional funds to steady the turbulence. Will KLM lend at high interest rates to itself. That is unlikely


The underlying problem is revenue growth. The airline has a huge cost base and without revenue growth, it will take a considerable period of time to turnaround.

Glass half empty or half full.. Perception and conjecture theories.. Time will tell. 12 days to go

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
ArrestedDev
#4835 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 11:29:55 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
RwandAir to open Mumbai route in December - CEO
http://www.newtimes.co.r...icle/2016-07-13/201638/

"...four flights to Mumbai per week in December 2016 flying its brand new A330-300 aircraft."
"The national carrier is IATA Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) certified, which guarantees its safety and airworthiness."

"Currently, the airline flies to 17 destinations, including Nairobi, Entebbe, Mombasa, Bujumbura, Lusaka, Juba, Douala, Dar es Salaam, Kilimanjaro, Johannesburg, Dubai, Lagos, Libreville and Brazzaville."


Baby steps. It will be a tall order for the route to break even given the number of feeder destinations that the airline currently ply (17 destinations). Moreover, they have never turned a profit since inception. All in all, it is a must watch for KQ considering the fact that ET is shaping the strategic direction of this carrier i.e. they are keeping the fares affordable/ relevant for the African continent.
obiero
#4836 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:55:13 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
RwandAir to open Mumbai route in December - CEO
http://www.newtimes.co.r...icle/2016-07-13/201638/

"...four flights to Mumbai per week in December 2016 flying its brand new A330-300 aircraft."
"The national carrier is IATA Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) certified, which guarantees its safety and airworthiness."

"Currently, the airline flies to 17 destinations, including Nairobi, Entebbe, Mombasa, Bujumbura, Lusaka, Juba, Douala, Dar es Salaam, Kilimanjaro, Johannesburg, Dubai, Lagos, Libreville and Brazzaville."


Baby steps. It will be a tall order for the route to break even given the number of feeder destinations that the airline currently ply (17 destinations). Moreover, they have never turned a profit since inception. All in all, it is a must watch for KQ considering the fact that ET is shaping the strategic direction of this carrier i.e. they are keeping the fares affordable/ relevant for the African continent.

@arrested.. Indeed, people are blind to the workings of a major airline. To mention KQ and Rwandair in the same paragraph is a crime and in the same sentence, a travesty.. 12 days to go

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
muandiwambeu
#4837 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:15:15 AM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation.

It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO


He is going home...wait and see.

I have also heard, and even after the 11 days I will wait.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
ArrestedDev
#4838 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 1:36:09 PM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation.

It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO


He is going home...wait and see.

I have also heard, and even after the 11 days I will wait.


Even a mad man knows this guy is among the executives who slept on the job. He is just being protected by the cartels.
obiero
#4839 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:12:17 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation.

It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO


He is going home...wait and see.

I have also heard, and even after the 11 days I will wait.


Even a mad man knows this guy is among the executives who slept on the job. He is just being protected by the cartels.

I am not a mad man and I have said it here before that Ngunze is a victim of circumstances. He joined KQ in 2011, became CEO in Dec 2014. Should he be blamed for issues that have dogged the firm for years past. I don't think so.... Mr. Mbuvi Ngunze is CEO, Executive Director & Group Managing Director at Kenya Airways Ltd. and Secretary at East African Cement Producers Association.
He is on the Board of Directors at Kenya Airways Ltd., Jambo Jet Ltd., and Lewa Wildlife Conservancy.
Mr. Ngunze was previously employed as Group Vice President-Internal Communications by Lafarge SA, a Managing Director by Hima Cement Ltd., Finance Director by Bamburi Cement Co. Ltd., and Audit Manager by Pricewaterhousecoopers.
He also served on the board at Mbeya Cement Co. Ltd.
He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Nairobi. He is a Chartered Accountant (England and Wales) and is also a graduate of the Harvard Business School’s Management Development Program (PMD75).

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
maka
#4840 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:30:22 PM
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obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
I have officially stopped the purchase of further KQ shares and now await the ride of a lifetime. The stars are lined up, perfectly.. Thank me later


Will only buy after the results which are bad...and thereafter Ngunze's resignation.

It is unlikely that Ngunze will resign.. He has a name to hold and the turnaround thus far is directly linked to his wisdom.. He has managed the company par excellence as CEO


He is going home...wait and see.

I have also heard, and even after the 11 days I will wait.


Even a mad man knows this guy is among the executives who slept on the job. He is just being protected by the cartels.

I am not a mad man and I have said it here before that Ngunze is a victim of circumstances. He joined KQ in 2011, became CEO in Dec 2014. Should he be blamed for issues that have dogged the firm for years past. I don't think so.... Mr. Mbuvi Ngunze is CEO, Executive Director & Group Managing Director at Kenya Airways Ltd. and Secretary at East African Cement Producers Association.
He is on the Board of Directors at Kenya Airways Ltd., Jambo Jet Ltd., and Lewa Wildlife Conservancy.
Mr. Ngunze was previously employed as Group Vice President-Internal Communications by Lafarge SA, a Managing Director by Hima Cement Ltd., Finance Director by Bamburi Cement Co. Ltd., and Audit Manager by Pricewaterhousecoopers.
He also served on the board at Mbeya Cement Co. Ltd.
He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Nairobi.



He was at all meetings in regards to project mawingu...the mother being one where TN used curse words infront of all managers accusing them of delaying implementation of the strategy...He can have that rosy CV but its time for him to go...even Ciano was well decorated.
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