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USIU land GRABBED - 40 acres!
Gathige
#31 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 11:08:55 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I am liking the credibility of USIU's paper trail. Buying the land from ICEA gives them a very solid case knowing the honesty and diligence of the Ndegwa's

This Moi fella really needs to give us some peace, he has not had enuf of F**king this country?

I also doubt the honesty of the buyer. A rule of thumb is that you never buy property under dispute.

Secondly, please clarify, did he buy 40 acres for 500M, so 12.5M per acre in Muthaiga!!Shame on you Shame on you or is the reporting dopey, I thought I first read somewhere that the dispute was over 8 Ha. or 20 acres which would be Sh 25M per acre and still way below market price



If Moi can sell phoney land, what about the usual land brokers? Very sad indeed.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#32 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 11:57:21 AM
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Othelo wrote:
So the title of Kenya uno got lost and they only realised and reconstructed it last year in that prime area. Jokes!!!


Hope they charge him with forgery, attempted theft, obtaining money by false means etc.

Where's @Alma to sink his teeth into thissmile smile
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sitaki.kujulikana
#33 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 3:51:47 PM
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Othelo wrote:
So the title of Kenya uno got lost and they only realised and reconstructed it last year in that prime area. Jokes!!!

You only need the title if you want to conduct a transaction, so when they needed to sell thats when they realized the title was lost smile I see nothing wrong with that, either way I usually see a good number of idle, undeveloped parcels of land between new muthaiga, thome and garden estate, ther is even a large piece of undeveloped land right in the middle of runda smile
mkenyan
#34 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 5:43:49 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Othelo wrote:
So the title of Kenya uno got lost and they only realised and reconstructed it last year in that prime area. Jokes!!!

You only need the title if you want to conduct a transaction, so when they needed to sell thats when they realized the title was lost smile I see nothing wrong with that, either way I usually see a good number of idle, undeveloped parcels of land between new muthaiga, thome and garden estate, ther is even a large piece of undeveloped land right in the middle of runda smile

i agree. so far usiu has done their pr job pretty well (one could say better than securing 'their' land) and we are yet to hear moi's side of story. and i believe there is more to this story than we are getting.
alma1
#35 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:24:06 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Othelo wrote:
So the title of Kenya uno got lost and they only realised and reconstructed it last year in that prime area. Jokes!!!

You only need the title if you want to conduct a transaction, so when they needed to sell thats when they realized the title was lost smile I see nothing wrong with that, either way I usually see a good number of idle, undeveloped parcels of land between new muthaiga, thome and garden estate, ther is even a large piece of undeveloped land right in the middle of runda smile

i agree. so far usiu has done their pr job pretty well (one could say better than securing 'their' land) and we are yet to hear moi's side of story. and i believe there is more to this story than we are getting.


As much as I don't like Moi's regime, I've recently learned that reporters are paid money to promote stories.

Surely, the Nation with its headline is a classic example of how to create a PR article at Gin Din.

I find it especially interesting that all of a sudden the media has become concerned about land grabbing.

This is in the same week when a headteacher in Nakuru was in court for fighting against a land grabber..That story is nowhere to be found.

But when Merali is marching for his private fights against Moi, ooohhhh land grabbing, ohhhh..

I don't believe the media at all in this one and await a trial in court.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Mike Ock
#36 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:33:54 PM
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yet you will see wazuans advocating for land as a proper investment channel! There is no security in that business if top government officials and those in the ministry are involved in the thieving. If you must go into land selling, give yourself a short timeline and get out before you are conned. Hapa USIU is screwed, unless they appoint someone who's willing to give himself the full time job of fighting this case for the next 10-20 years
alma1
#37 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:40:44 PM
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Mike Ock wrote:
yet you will see wazuans advocating for land as a proper investment channel! There is no security in that business if top government officials and those in the ministry are involved in the thieving. If you must go into land selling, give yourself a short timeline and get out before you are conned. Hapa USIU is screwed, unless they appoint someone who's willing to give himself the full time job of fighting this case for the next 10-20 years


I keep on telling people..until that lands registry is computerized, don't call land in Kenya a sure investment.

But that shall never happen...Computerizing that lands office is harder than Raila becoming President and Uhuru his deputy in 2022.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Othelo
#38 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:45:09 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
yet you will see wazuans advocating for land as a proper investment channel! There is no security in that business if top government officials and those in the ministry are involved in the thieving. If you must go into land selling, give yourself a short timeline and get out before you are conned. Hapa USIU is screwed, unless they appoint someone who's willing to give himself the full time job of fighting this case for the next 10-20 years


I keep on telling people..until that lands registry is computerized, don't call land in Kenya a sure investment.

But that shall never happen...Computerizing that lands office is harder than Raila becoming President and Uhuru his deputy in 2022.

So what did Ngilu allegedly clean?????
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Kusadikika
#39 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:51:10 PM
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I find the direct involvement of Moi here a little suspicious. Moi owns a lot of property but most of it through proxy or companies such as Kabarak Limited. Why is it that this land was registered directly in his name? Kwani Mutula Kilonzo alikuwa on leave or what happened? This Kiongera fellow is either a conman or a victim of an even bigger conman!!
Kusadikika
#40 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:10:27 PM
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I have just read the profile of Dr. Kiongera. The guy is based in the US. I am almost 100 % sure now the guy was just conned. The 2 lawyers should be thoroughly investigated. Not that I think anything will ever come out of it except a good story. If you meet a lawyer who tells you he represents the former president and even gives you documents allegedly signed by him how can you doubt that?
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