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ArrestedDev
#4761 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 4:38:28 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sober wrote:
Johnny Andersen is the new MD at KAA

Positive news. We are way too corrupted

and our tribal eyes are more sharp than performance eyes,source for another kq mzungu MDsmile


It seems this Macharia is a decent guy. He proves to me that he indeed built NIC. Can he replicate the same with Kenya Airways and save us the blunders?
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mlennyma
#4762 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 4:43:01 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sober wrote:
Johnny Andersen is the new MD at KAA

Positive news. We are way too corrupted

and our tribal eyes are more sharp than performance eyes,source for another kq mzungu MDsmile


It seems this Macharia is a decent guy. He proves to me that he indeed built NIC. Can he replicate the same with Kenya Airways and save us the blunders?

if this was kq i think obieros share could clock 10% tomorrow
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Ericsson
#4763 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:15:24 PM
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Problem with making such a move at KQ is the KLM factor/shareholding.
If it was fully owned by gava then it would have been possible.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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ArrestedDev
#4764 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:12:28 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Problem with making such a move at KQ is the KLM factor/shareholding.
If it was fully owned by gava then it would have been possible.


Nope. It can happen. There is nothing to stop it.
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Othelo
#4765 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:13:16 PM
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So we are hiring an expatriate for such a basic job because of corruption Sad
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obiero
#4766 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:18:06 PM
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Othelo wrote:
So we are hiring an expatriate for such a basic job because of corruption Sad

Imagine.. At least Ngunze is not corrupt

KQ ABP 4.26
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ArrestedDev
#4767 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:22:36 PM
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Othelo wrote:
So we are hiring an expatriate for such a basic job because of corruption Sad


He has the experience and that's it. Do not look at it from any other angle.

The best among all the other applicants. Merit applied here.


http://www.businessdaily...1/-/155pdpy/-/index.html
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ArrestedDev
#4768 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:24:07 PM
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obiero wrote:
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So we are hiring an expatriate for such a basic job because of corruption Sad

Imagine.. At least Ngunze is not corrupt


I do not believe him. He is not straight forward.
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#4769 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:37:51 PM
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maka wrote:
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The guy alipita kati kati.
If u look at the other contestants 3 were from TNA and 2 URP.To avoid the ujinga one side was favoured compared to the other pick a neutral candidate.

"Among the six names on the list include Joseph Kimote, James Kibati, Muriithi Ndegwa, Kirua Kipkomei and Yatich Kangugo who has been serving as the acting Managing Director of the Authority. James Kibati and Muriithi Ndegwa were among the top three contenders".


Not bad...

https://touch.www.linked...ail/98225036/name:hjfL/


He is fit for the job. Could have also done well as COO for KQ if only Ngunze and his KLM friends were straight forward.
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VituVingiSana
#4770 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:43:47 PM
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@ArrestedDev - A discussion with a (paid) fanatic will yield little. It's like the Moi days. No matter how bad it got, the (paid) cheerleaders would praise the chap.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#4771 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:06:00 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@ArrestedDev - A discussion with a (paid) fanatic will yield little. It's like the Moi days. No matter how bad it got, the (paid) cheerleaders would praise the chap.

I agree

KQ ABP 4.26
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#4772 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:16:08 AM
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The World's Top 100 Airlines in 2016

KQ - No.85

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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#4773 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:42:23 AM
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Othelo
#4774 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:56:12 AM
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obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:

The World's Top 100 Airlines in 2016

KQ - No.85


http://www.businessdaily...2/-/e6tprp/-/index.html pesa imefika


This is the second tranche of a Sh20.2 billion debt taken by the Treasury on behalf of the company. The government owns 29 per cent of the airline. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


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maka
#4775 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:12:16 AM
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Final figures ;110 management side gone + 99 unionisable;next phase coming soon;They managed this thing pretty well,took guys to Future planning classes actually all staff HAD to attend,the union negotiated that laid off staff have their medical cover run for the rest of the year + they were exempted from some tax ( will confirm this );then when you were called to get your letter you cleared with all departments to avoid guys who have been laid off coming back to the airport to clear.
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#4776 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:13:27 AM
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Othelo wrote:
obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:

The World's Top 100 Airlines in 2016

KQ - No.85


http://www.businessdaily...2/-/e6tprp/-/index.html pesa imefika




Hate speech

KQ ABP 4.26
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#4777 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:17:02 AM
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maka wrote:
Final figures ;110 management side gone + 99 unionisable;next phase coming soon;They managed this thing pretty well,took guys to Future planning classes actually all staff HAD to attend,the union negotiated that laid off staff have their medical cover run for the rest of the year + they were exempted from some tax ( will confirm this );then when you were called to get your letter you cleared with all departments to avoid guys who have been laid off coming back to the airport to clear.

209 sent home Vs expected 600 and pilots and cabin crew intact. Nothing doing here Sad Sad Sad
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#4778 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:23:07 AM
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Othelo wrote:
maka wrote:
Final figures ;110 management side gone + 99 unionisable;next phase coming soon;They managed this thing pretty well,took guys to Future planning classes actually all staff HAD to attend,the union negotiated that laid off staff have their medical cover run for the rest of the year + they were exempted from some tax ( will confirm this );then when you were called to get your letter you cleared with all departments to avoid guys who have been laid off coming back to the airport to clear.

209 sent home Vs expected 600 and pilots and cabin crew intact. Nothing doing here Sad Sad Sad


39 pursers were chujwad btw its only pilots who werent touched...
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#4779 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:28:29 AM
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Othelo wrote:
maka wrote:
Final figures ;110 management side gone + 99 unionisable;next phase coming soon;They managed this thing pretty well,took guys to Future planning classes actually all staff HAD to attend,the union negotiated that laid off staff have their medical cover run for the rest of the year + they were exempted from some tax ( will confirm this );then when you were called to get your letter you cleared with all departments to avoid guys who have been laid off coming back to the airport to clear.

209 sent home Vs expected 600 and pilots and cabin crew intact. Nothing doing here Sad Sad Sad

That is a good start and kudos to Ngunze for masterful Execution. Starting with management was a classic act in right sizing.. If my manager was let go then who am I to challenge.. Further there are those who jumped ship prior.. Attrition shall meet the objectives

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maka
#4780 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:56:27 AM
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@Obiero the loss is still big Sad
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