alma1 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Taurrus wrote:I now see clearly that even agitation for Uhuru was stupid! but again I wonder if it's tribe or cowardice or both!
@taurrus, there was a thread discussing whether maumau war was worth it. I shared my experience watching my grandpa who served 7 years in manyani and hola.
At manyani, the sadistic white cops would extract confessions through unspeakable acts of torture. The were always accompanied by a young educated kikuyu man. His names were Jeremiah Kiereini.
Towards his final days, you could always see an unspoken pain and anguish. We'll never know whether it was the freedom turning insipid in the mouth, or watching kiereini and others like him picking and distributing the best and most succulent fruits of uhuru.
@masukuma is right. If I ever found myself at that point where I have to choose one path over the other, I would choose kiereini's and not my grandpa's.
I'm totally worried that this is the level of argument we have got to.
Instead of being proud of your grandpa for being honest with his life, you are wondering if he was not?
Are you serious?
Instead of questioning why the homeguard is the one who benefited, you are wondering if you should be the homeguard beating up on his fellow man?
Instead of using the education you were given by the sacrifice of your grandfather in Manyani, to get what was due to the brave man, you are here praising the homeguard?
Do you guys even understand what arguments you are making or are you so hoodwinked you don't know what you are saying.
I'm extremely proud of my grandparents. Eternally proud. In fact I don't think there will ever be better grandparents than the ones I have.
It was not their money that made me proud of them but the fact that they stood up against tyranny when it was a very easy route to take the house nigger route.
But its ok if you wish to judge your parents based on how much money you have and how many other people you have oppressed by being the wise one.....
I'm now starting to understand the Kenyan culture of voting in thieves and robbers. Now I totally get it.
Who are we kidding?Kenya is a capitalistic state. Every man for his own and God for us all.The children and grand children of mau mau knows better.Kwani it is only the children of the peasants can liberate this country?
Look at the life of Mukami Kimathi.Look at the life of mzee Ojwang.What happened to the whistle blower for goldenberg?Jacob Juma? What is the joy of being famous and die like a dog?You leave your family in abject poverty.For what?I will not go to the streets and fight with the police while the children of our leaders are just enjoying themselves in the Sankaras and Kempinkis.
Let me be the coward.
I refuse blind and manipulated bravely.
What is in for me?
Hata Alkebab reward the families of those who die for their causes.
In kenya you die like a dog for your bravely.
We will create a monument for you.And then what?
Consistency is better than intensity