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Swenani wrote:hardwood wrote:harrydre wrote:hardwood wrote:The cop killer. He's an army veteran. Served in Afghanistan. Sad.
Looks like he was following the teachings of malcolm x, black panthers. An eye for an eye. His name Micah Xavier Might the war veteran have been suffering from PTSD after tour of duty in Afghanistan? Friends say he really changed after returning from war.  That doesnt apply to black folks in US Given that the police could get a robot close enough to the shooter, was lethal force against him justified? For example, why not just disable him and arrest him first then charge him in a court of law? Even in this case the authorities would seem to have acted irresponsibly. Probably with a kind the kind of bias inherent in a rotten criminal justice system.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:hardwood wrote:harrydre wrote:hardwood wrote:The cop killer. He's an army veteran. Served in Afghanistan. Sad.
Looks like he was following the teachings of malcolm x, black panthers. An eye for an eye. His name Micah Xavier Might the war veteran have been suffering from PTSD after tour of duty in Afghanistan? Friends say he really changed after returning from war. That doesnt apply to black folks in US Given that the police could get a robot close enough to the shooter, was lethal force against him justified? For example, why not just disable him and arrest him first then charge him in a court of law? Even in this case the authorities would seem to have acted irresponsibly. Probably with a kind the kind of bias inherent in a rotten criminal justice system. If you kill a cop this guys have no duty to keep you alive. Who remembers the former cop from California who was black, and something happened and I think he was fired or something then he chose to revenge. I think he was a war veteran . He took off during massive search and went to camping site where he continued fighting the police. I think the chase took 3 days .when they were able to corner him in a camping cabin, they had a chance to arrest him since he ran out of bullets but they chose to take his life anyway. For the police they know should such a person get into the judiciary system, cops know he has a chance of getting life sentences, live in jail with full Healthcare benefits, eat healthy whereas their colleague is 6 ft under.so usually they just unplug the life support from them and come up with theory that they didn't know if he had explosives. If you kill a cop and you are a double minority(black and a criminal) then you are done. Be prepared to meet angels from hell
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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enyands wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:hardwood wrote:harrydre wrote:hardwood wrote:The cop killer. He's an army veteran. Served in Afghanistan. Sad.
Looks like he was following the teachings of malcolm x, black panthers. An eye for an eye. His name Micah Xavier Might the war veteran have been suffering from PTSD after tour of duty in Afghanistan? Friends say he really changed after returning from war. That doesnt apply to black folks in US Given that the police could get a robot close enough to the shooter, was lethal force against him justified? For example, why not just disable him and arrest him first then charge him in a court of law? Even in this case the authorities would seem to have acted irresponsibly. Probably with a kind the kind of bias inherent in a rotten criminal justice system. If you kill a cop this guys have no duty to keep you alive. Who remembers the former cop from California who was black, and something happened and I think he was fired or something then he chose to revenge. I think he was a war veteran . He took off during massive search and went to camping site where he continued fighting the police. I think the chase took 3 days .when they were able to corner him in a camping cabin, they had a chance to arrest him since he ran out of bullets but they chose to take his life anyway. For the police they know should such a person get into the judiciary system, cops know he has a chance of getting life sentences, live in jail with full Healthcare benefits, eat healthy whereas their colleague is 6 ft under.so usually they just unplug the life support from them and come up with theory that they didn't know if he had explosives. If you kill a cop and you are a double minority(black and a criminal) then you are done. Be prepared to meet angels from hell If it's foreseeable that officers of the law are wont to break the law, then the shooter may have been justified in his actions and is probably heroic.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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hardwood wrote:The land of the free appears to be like a prison. Never knew how lucky we are to be living in Kenya. Hapa kenya when I reach my pocket is to remove kitu kidogo.i love home
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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For those who are saying that compliance has more chances of guaranteeing life, and that one ought to give such advice; what guarantees are there that such a strategy would work? And why would such a strategy work? http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/politics/story/1.3670654
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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tycho wrote:For those who are saying that compliance has more chances of guaranteeing life, and that one ought to give such advice; what guarantees are there that such a strategy would work? And why would such a strategy work? http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/politics/story/1.3670654 Bro there is no guarantee BUT as we said earlier you increase your chances of survival. Mark my words in red INCREASE YOUR CHANCES of going home alive . It's not a guarantee but chances are higher than someone who is outright aggressive. Look at trayvon, he was aggressive to the community patrol though he didn't do anything wrong , look at the 1st guy to be killed this week,he was aggressive and refused to comply ,don't get me wrong ,we know there are racist police officer but all these situations can be defused completely with compliance .failure to comply gives the racist police ammunition to kill. There are some isolated cases where compliance doesn't apply like the second murder this week,the guu complied but he was murdered anyway.but all of them has to do with someone being aggressive pre extra judicial execution and trying to elope from police officer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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you don't get to come to life again once you are dead... once you are dead.. you are dead. your wife becomes a widow and your kids become fatherless. try to not give anyone an excuse to do that to your loved ones. There are bad people out there - just try and get home! We agree that there are systemic issues that need to be sorted but don't be stupid enough to think that the time to test whether those issues have been fixed or not is when your are pulled over by a cop. in Kenya it's the kurusha mdomo 'I know my rights..." All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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enyands wrote:tycho wrote:For those who are saying that compliance has more chances of guaranteeing life, and that one ought to give such advice; what guarantees are there that such a strategy would work? And why would such a strategy work? http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/politics/story/1.3670654 Bro there is no guarantee BUT as we said earlier you increase your chances of survival. Mark my words in red INCREASE YOUR CHANCES of going home alive . It's not a guarantee but chances are higher than someone who is outright aggressive. Look at trayvon, he was aggressive to the community patrol though he didn't do anything wrong , look at the 1st guy to be killed this week,he was aggressive and refused to comply ,don't get me wrong ,we know there are racist police officer but all these situations can be defused completely with compliance .failure to comply gives the racist police ammunition to kill. There are some isolated cases where compliance doesn't apply like the second murder this week,the guu complied but he was murdered anyway.but all of them has to do with someone being aggressive pre extra judicial execution and trying to elope from police officer I'm having difficulty in understanding the third paragraph of your response. Are you saying that the murder victim was aggressive and trying to 'elope' from the officer while also remaining compliant? The second paragraph appears to give the guarantee that compliance is able to diffuse all situations... Finally, what would be the rationality of increased chances given that: It's reasonable for an officer to expect some hostility from a person who for example, believes his rights are being infringed? Is it like the case of animals submitting by lying on their backs and gaining the sympathy of aggressors? That is, compliance is an appeal for 'mercy'...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:you don't get to come to life again once you are dead... once you are dead.. you are dead. your wife becomes a widow and your kids become fatherless. try to not give anyone an excuse to do that to your loved ones. There are bad people out there - just try and get home! We agree that there are systemic issues that need to be sorted but don't be stupid enough to think that the time to test whether those issues have been fixed or not is when your are pulled over by a cop. in Kenya it's the kurusha mdomo 'I know my rights..." 1. Is there a limit to the desire to go home to your wife? 2. Is death the worst that can happen? For example, is it better to be alive but psychiatrically damaged?
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