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enyands
#61 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:17:12 AM
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urstill1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How come those shouting loudest about the killing of young armed men in the US never complain about the killing of young armed men in Nairobi/Kenya?


@hardwood, am with you 100%. So cops are killing a disproportionate number of blacks in the US ? Our figures are around 7000 police killings since 2004 and we have moved on. Not my monkeys, not my circus.

So five Dallas police were killed ? Why should I care ? We lost 42 aps in baragoi and another 21 in kapendo. In the first case, our president said nothing. And we left the dead bodies to rot in the hot sun for three days before we could get trucks to bring them to nairobi (500 km).

Not my circus, not my circus !!!!!

I agree with your sentiments lakini... i have to ask... what suffering did the dead bodies experience having been left in the sun for 3 days?


Hehehehe!! Ethics @ Masukush!! Kuuliza tu, how ethical are you? I have realized it's quite inadequate in your persona. Just a personal observation. You are one of of the few wazuans I consider level headed but your moral principles ...???

I ma very ethical... I respect human life and consider it irrepeatable irreplaceable and unique. I however don't treat the dead in the same way. Some burn their dead (worse end than leaving the bodies in the sun), some throw the dead into holes and cover them up. I think the rituals around the dead are of use to the living not to the dead. a dead person is a dead person... something will eat his/her body - it may be big or small but it will be eaten non the less. I think I am a moral person who does not want people to be reckless with their lives.



I suppose it is not upright to leave law enforcers bodies scorching in the sun of 3 days as alleged. What does the living APs think? What of the families of the victims? I happen to have gone through a subject called S.E.E in high school and they mentioned something called 'empathy'. I believe you lack that in reference to the dead and related living persons. I concur with you that rituals performed to the dead are for the living. However, can't you just respect someones ritual to his/her dead as you do to his/her religion? It is theirs, and if you are the government, then you need to support the bereaved in all ways possible. Especially if they died in the line of duty. I have never seen or heard of a dead soldier purposely left in the battle field, unless the battalion is completely wiped. Sorry, that is not a discussion here(this thread).


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enyands
#62 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:32:00 AM
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enyands wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How come those shouting loudest about the killing of young armed men in the US never complain about the killing of young armed men in Nairobi/Kenya?


@hardwood, am with you 100%. So cops are killing a disproportionate number of blacks in the US ? Our figures are around 7000 police killings since 2004 and we have moved on. Not my monkeys, not my circus.

So five Dallas police were killed ? Why should I care ? We lost 42 aps in baragoi and another 21 in kapendo. In the first case, our president said nothing. And we left the dead bodies to rot in the hot sun for three days before we could get trucks to bring them to nairobi (500 km).

Not my circus, not my circus !!!!!

I agree with your sentiments lakini... i have to ask... what suffering did the dead bodies experience having been left in the sun for 3 days?


Hehehehe!! Ethics @ Masukush!! Kuuliza tu, how ethical are you? I have realized it's quite inadequate in your persona. Just a personal observation. You are one of of the few wazuans I consider level headed but your moral principles ...???

I ma very ethical... I respect human life and consider it irrepeatable irreplaceable and unique. I however don't treat the dead in the same way. Some burn their dead (worse end than leaving the bodies in the sun), some throw the dead into holes and cover them up. I think the rituals around the dead are of use to the living not to the dead. a dead person is a dead person... something will eat his/her body - it may be big or small but it will be eaten non the less. I think I am a moral person who does not want people to be reckless with their lives.



I suppose it is not upright to leave law enforcers bodies scorching in the sun of 3 days as alleged. What does the living APs think? What of the families of the victims? I happen to have gone through a subject called S.E.E in high school and they mentioned something called 'empathy'. I believe you lack that in reference to the dead and related living persons. I concur with you that rituals performed to the dead are for the living. However, can't you just respect someones ritual to his/her dead as you do to his/her religion? It is theirs, and if you are the government, then you need to support the bereaved in all ways possible. Especially if they died in the line of duty. I have never seen or heard of a dead soldier purposely left in the battle field, unless the battalion is completely wiped. Sorry, that is not a discussion here(this thread).


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I know Mapushing will be happy that I posted this on his defense
dunkang
#63 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 8:11:16 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
No matter how emotional we get, there is nothing we can do but sympathize with the victims.
The best defense against unnecessary loss of life is humbleness. Avoid any confrontation with police officers. Follow their order.

Not so long ago, we were adviced to cooperate with armed thugs, just for the sake of our safety.

Now @Tokyo is saying the same, but now, its the cops. The police officer? Officers of the law?

Society has surely gone to the dogs.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

Obi 1 Kanobi
#64 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 10:44:16 AM
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dunkang wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
No matter how emotional we get, there is nothing we can do but sympathize with the victims.
The best defense against unnecessary loss of life is humbleness. Avoid any confrontation with police officers. Follow their order.

Not so long ago, we were adviced to cooperate with armed thugs, just for the sake of our safety.

Now @Tokyo is saying the same, but now, its the cops. The police officer? Officers of the law?

Society has surely gone to the dogs.


This cooperate thing is not all that, from watching those videos, there is nothing that suggests that the victims in way did not cooperate.

Its easier to blame the victims but the truth is those cops woke up that morning with the intention of killing a black man, just the same way they woke up every other morning before that.

The shooting of those 5 black cops will bring some semblance of reality to a racist US police force, someone opened the pandora's box, there is now no going back, now they know "choices have consequences"
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
hardwood
#65 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 11:28:23 AM
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The cop killer. He's an army veteran. Served in Afghanistan. Sad.
harrydre
#66 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:16:36 PM
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hardwood wrote:
The cop killer. He's an army veteran. Served in Afghanistan. Sad.


Looks like he was following the teachings of malcolm x, black panthers. An eye for an eye. His name Micah Xavier
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hardwood
#67 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:35:34 PM
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harrydre wrote:
hardwood wrote:
The cop killer. He's an army veteran. Served in Afghanistan. Sad.


Looks like he was following the teachings of malcolm x, black panthers. An eye for an eye. His name Micah Xavier


Might the war veteran have been suffering from PTSD after tour of duty in Afghanistan? Friends say he really changed after returning from war.

masukuma
#68 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:32:27 PM
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enyands wrote:

I know Mapushing will be happy that I posted this on his defense

you see! i am not the only one who thinks that "your coming home" is more important than "being right".
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Swenani
#69 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:37:50 PM
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hardwood wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hardwood wrote:
The cop killer. He's an army veteran. Served in Afghanistan. Sad.


Looks like he was following the teachings of malcolm x, black panthers. An eye for an eye. His name Micah Xavier


Might the war veteran have been suffering from PTSD after tour of duty in Afghanistan? Friends say he really changed after returning from war.



That doesnt apply to black folks in US
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
hardwood
#70 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:42:48 PM
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The land of the free appears to be like a prison. Never knew how lucky we are to be living in Kenya.

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