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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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chemirocha wrote:Impunity wrote:chemirocha wrote:Tokyo wrote:Democracy should be redefined so that Voting be a restricted affair. Clueless masses privilege of voting must be restricted Yeah, because that works so well in China  Very true in China and most of the so called Tigers. Hakuna WHOLESALE demoncrazy huko. If you cant comprehend simple basic matters then you are not allowed near a voting booth. In fact those countries are run like Big corporates, only people who can think forward are allowed to vote. Who said the majority are always right? CRAP! I was being sarcastic about China. The members of the politburo are answerable only towards themselves. The rule of the mob that is democracy is a much better system of governance. Please take the sentence below to the Chinese EXIM bank: >>>Democrazy cannot work for a developing country like Kenya and Saos Sudan, countries full of nincompoops and bootlickers...guys who want to amasse weolth for the sake of it by looting national treasury<<<Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Impunity wrote:Rahatupu wrote:Impunity wrote:chemirocha wrote:Tokyo wrote:Democracy should be redefined so that Voting be a restricted affair. Clueless masses privilege of voting must be restricted Yeah, because that works so well in China Very true in China and most of the so called Tigers. Hakuna WHOLESALE demoncrazy huko. If you cant comprehend simple basic matters then you are not allowed near a voting booth. In fact those countries are run like Big corporates, only people who can think forward are allowed to vote. Who said the majority are always right? CRAP! I remember some NGO fronting for prisoners right to vote, Mutual Kilonzo opposed this. The another was canvassing for the mentally handicapped to vote esp after 2010 promulgation. Ask yourself, if only reasonable people could be allowed to vote in Rarieda, where do you think that constituency would be now under the guidance of @Tuju? Even the idea of mobile clinics that @mama ohuru is dangling around was realized by @Tuju a decade ago! Ponder that. But give thanks and praises to demon-crazy which entertain dunderheads to vote, sijui universal sufferage (pun)! Think about those respectable senior citizens being driven to polling stations aboard boda boda and then ask to tick "kando ya picha ya @baba", what value are they adding in the system if not tyranny of numbers? How do you identify "reasonable people".Moreover reasonable is subjective depending on your class status and education background If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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In Japan , you can't just wake up and be eligible to vote. You must be "invited " by the government. That invitation is only to a tax payer without any pending criminal conviction work to prosper
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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Impunity wrote:chemirocha wrote:Impunity wrote:chemirocha wrote:Tokyo wrote:Democracy should be redefined so that Voting be a restricted affair. Clueless masses privilege of voting must be restricted Yeah, because that works so well in China Very true in China and most of the so called Tigers. Hakuna WHOLESALE demoncrazy huko. If you cant comprehend simple basic matters then you are not allowed near a voting booth. In fact those countries are run like Big corporates, only people who can think forward are allowed to vote. Who said the majority are always right? CRAP! I was being sarcastic about China. The members of the politburo are answerable only towards themselves. The rule of the mob that is democracy is a much better system of governance. Please take the sentence below to the Chinese EXIM bank: >>>Democrazy cannot work for a developing country like Kenya and Saos Sudan, countries full of nincompoops and bootlickers...guys who want to amasse weolth for the sake of it by looting national treasury<<< What an absurd statement. How can wananchi expect good leadership when we keep voting in the same jokers?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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Swenani wrote:Impunity wrote:Rahatupu wrote:Impunity wrote:chemirocha wrote:Tokyo wrote:Democracy should be redefined so that Voting be a restricted affair. Clueless masses privilege of voting must be restricted Yeah, because that works so well in China Very true in China and most of the so called Tigers. Hakuna WHOLESALE demoncrazy huko. If you cant comprehend simple basic matters then you are not allowed near a voting booth. In fact those countries are run like Big corporates, only people who can think forward are allowed to vote. Who said the majority are always right? CRAP! I remember some NGO fronting for prisoners right to vote, Mutual Kilonzo opposed this. The another was canvassing for the mentally handicapped to vote esp after 2010 promulgation. Ask yourself, if only reasonable people could be allowed to vote in Rarieda, where do you think that constituency would be now under the guidance of @Tuju? Even the idea of mobile clinics that @mama ohuru is dangling around was realized by @Tuju a decade ago! Ponder that. But give thanks and praises to demon-crazy which entertain dunderheads to vote, sijui universal sufferage (pun)! Think about those respectable senior citizens being driven to polling stations aboard boda boda and then ask to tick "kando ya picha ya @baba", what value are they adding in the system if not tyranny of numbers? How do you identify "reasonable people".Moreover reasonable is subjective depending on your class status and education background A person like you will be a perfect datam for unreasonable person! Anything like you will be immediately classified "unreasonable", anything better than you will be banked as "reasonable". Very easy, you see. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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from a philosophical perspective - my take has always been , everyone should vote (forced to vote!). my belief is that regardless of stature and education you have a voice and my mentor in this line of work once wrote Quote:The history of democracy throughout the world has never yet produced a perfect election. There are always those who will do everything possible to win, from corrupting the voter register to vote buying and intimidation to trying to influence the vote count and reporting. And there are those who will blame everybody and everything except themselves when they lose. Every election has its stories of success and its stories of challenge and difficulty. But the democratic process remains the most equitable approach to choosing those who will govern.
Election Day is still the one day when we strive to give equal voice to every eligible voter; the day when the woman working in the market stall has as much of a say as any wealthy banker, and the illiterate menial laborer has a voice that speaks as eloquently as any university professor. It is our shared responsibility to strive for processes and systems that ensure that every voter is given the opportunity to make their will known, and that every vote is counted. that quote concisely put to words my ideals on elections and voting. democracy is an ideal... one that feed's back! it's not about economics but one about the voice of each human being. That is why we have elections. if you think people are illiterate and cannot be trusted with the decision - increase their literacy. the process generally makes people better other than setting a qualification bar that disqualifies people. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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masukuma wrote:from a philosophical perspective - my take has always been , everyone should vote (forced to vote!). my belief is that regardless of stature and education you have a voice and my mentor in this line of work once wrote Quote:The history of democracy throughout the world has never yet produced a perfect election. There are always those who will do everything possible to win, from corrupting the voter register to vote buying and intimidation to trying to influence the vote count and reporting. And there are those who will blame everybody and everything except themselves when they lose. Every election has its stories of success and its stories of challenge and difficulty. But the democratic process remains the most equitable approach to choosing those who will govern.
Election Day is still the one day when we strive to give equal voice to every eligible voter; the day when the woman working in the market stall has as much of a say as any wealthy banker, and the illiterate menial laborer has a voice that speaks as eloquently as any university professor. It is our shared responsibility to strive for processes and systems that ensure that every voter is given the opportunity to make their will known, and that every vote is counted. that quote concisely put to words my ideals on elections and voting. democracy is an ideal... one that feed's back! it's not about economics but one about the voice of each human being. That is why we have elections. if you think people are illiterate and cannot be trusted with the decision - increase their literacy. the process generally makes people better other than setting a qualification bar that disqualifies people. And thats why Democrazy can only work in developed countries literacy iko yuu...for us neanderthals, we need some serious *ss kicking for the time being! Its the bitter truth. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:masukuma wrote:from a philosophical perspective - my take has always been , everyone should vote (forced to vote!). my belief is that regardless of stature and education you have a voice and my mentor in this line of work once wrote Quote:The history of democracy throughout the world has never yet produced a perfect election. There are always those who will do everything possible to win, from corrupting the voter register to vote buying and intimidation to trying to influence the vote count and reporting. And there are those who will blame everybody and everything except themselves when they lose. Every election has its stories of success and its stories of challenge and difficulty. But the democratic process remains the most equitable approach to choosing those who will govern.
Election Day is still the one day when we strive to give equal voice to every eligible voter; the day when the woman working in the market stall has as much of a say as any wealthy banker, and the illiterate menial laborer has a voice that speaks as eloquently as any university professor. It is our shared responsibility to strive for processes and systems that ensure that every voter is given the opportunity to make their will known, and that every vote is counted. that quote concisely put to words my ideals on elections and voting. democracy is an ideal... one that feed's back! it's not about economics but one about the voice of each human being. That is why we have elections. if you think people are illiterate and cannot be trusted with the decision - increase their literacy. the process generally makes people better other than setting a qualification bar that disqualifies people. And thats why Democrazy can only work in developed countries literacy iko yuu...for us neanderthals, we need some serious *ss kicking for the time being! Its the bitter truth. who says it's not working? and again who says "it's working in majuu"?. From where I stand "working" is a continuum. You need to learn to separate a number of things: 1) democracy <--- voice 2) freedom <--- doing what you want 3) modernity <--- kuchanuka 4) prosperity they are related but they are not always dependent on each other. China is a prosperous modern nation. Kenya is a free and democratic country. The US is a democratic, free, modern and prosperous country. Of course again each of those words is a continuum. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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masukuma wrote:from a philosophical perspective - my take has always been , everyone should vote (forced to vote!). my belief is that regardless of stature and education you have a voice and my mentor in this line of work once wrote Quote:The history of democracy throughout the world has never yet produced a perfect election. There are always those who will do everything possible to win, from corrupting the voter register to vote buying and intimidation to trying to influence the vote count and reporting. And there are those who will blame everybody and everything except themselves when they lose. Every election has its stories of success and its stories of challenge and difficulty. But the democratic process remains the most equitable approach to choosing those who will govern.
Election Day is still the one day when we strive to give equal voice to every eligible voter; the day when the woman working in the market stall has as much of a say as any wealthy banker, and the illiterate menial laborer has a voice that speaks as eloquently as any university professor. It is our shared responsibility to strive for processes and systems that ensure that every voter is given the opportunity to make their will known, and that every vote is counted. that quote concisely put to words my ideals on elections and voting. democracy is an ideal... one that feed's back! it's not about economics but one about the voice of each human being. That is why we have elections. if you think people are illiterate and cannot be trusted with the decision - increase their literacy. the process generally makes people better other than setting a qualification bar that disqualifies people. This opinion is biased considering the work you do for a living.  ION,there are illiterate Kenyans who are more informed when it comes to voting than the literate Wazuans here who have increased literacy but still vote along tribal lines. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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