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Swenani
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:26:38 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Swenani wrote:

The only way to do away with violence and terrorism is to do away with power and religion for they are interlinked.

Is this even possible?


No, but as @Tokyo said,learn to live with consequences
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masukuma
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:38:51 AM
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enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
enyands wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
When we say religion is the worst invention by man don't argue but learn to live with consequences



Why haven't I ever heard of radical Christians who go around bombing people for the sake of Christianity? I'm not attacking any religion, I'm just wondering! !!


KKK



Murchir my brother KKK have a manifesto embedded with enhancing purity of "white race " not purity of Christianity Laughing out loudly. If they did that then they wont be killing the Christian blacks. I could be wrong though

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
And that is what a random muslim would say to say "Islam is a religion of peace" and that "those guys don't kill for them". the facts are Christians have killed more people in the name of Christianity than Muslims have. By the way... the 1st ship to carry slaves off the coast of africa was called????? But also... christianity underwent some reforms that made it"easier" but it has not always been so! The Christiandom was once a bloody battle field with catholics killing protestants and lutherans e.t.c.
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Intelligentsia
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 11:08:07 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Read history and you will realize that Christians have killed far more people in trying to spread the gospel than the rest of all religions.

I argued in a different thread that Islam is only undergoing transformation/evolution just the same way Christianity did.There was a time where Christians (crusaders) were killing anybody who was not a christian with blessings from Pope(s).Catholics and protestants have killed each other over power to rule.

The only way to do away with violence and terrorism is to do away with power and religion for they are interlinked.


Baas you have captured the reality very well.
The Church was also the State - remember the Crusades,where the Pope himuselufu called for military action and later teh Spanish Inquisition.

If you notice some of the cruelest human torture types were during the middle ages, exactly the cruelty ISIS is engaging in currently.

But in the same breath it also suggests extremist Islam is currently where Xstianity was in the middle ages?
wanyee
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 11:29:29 AM
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they had just apologized to Putin few hours back ..joicez have gozequnces
enyands
#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:34:51 PM
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masukuma wrote:
enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
enyands wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
When we say religion is the worst invention by man don't argue but learn to live with consequences



Why haven't I ever heard of radical Christians who go around bombing people for the sake of Christianity? I'm not attacking any religion, I'm just wondering! !!


KKK



Murchir my brother KKK have a manifesto embedded with enhancing purity of "white race " not purity of Christianity Laughing out loudly. If they did that then they wont be killing the Christian blacks. I could be wrong though

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
And that is what a random muslim would say to say "Islam is a religion of peace" and that "those guys don't kill for them". the facts are Christians have killed more people in the name of Christianity than Muslims have. By the way... the 1st ship to carry slaves off the coast of africa was called????? But also... christianity underwent some reforms that made it"easier" but it has not always been so! The Christiandom was once a bloody battle field with catholics killing protestants and lutherans e.t.c.



Well said masukuma. I agree with you here
Anti_Burglar
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:51:44 PM
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After this commercial break in which third parties not even remotely connected to the event have been quartered and dissected this is how it went down when one of the attackers blew himself up after being shot by police rather than let himself be arrested and put on trial:

Obi 1 Kanobi
#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:26:31 PM
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masukuma wrote:
ISIS is actually a political organization that poses as a religious group. it's interests are indistinguishable from the interests of say the Kurdish people or the Biafrans.


ISIS is indeed a religious group, their political proposition is based on religious background.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:32:26 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Read history and you will realize that Christians have killed far more people in trying to spread the gospel than the rest of all religions.

I argued in a different thread that Islam is only undergoing transformation/evolution just the same way Christianity did.There was a time where Christians (crusaders) were killing anybody who was not a christian with blessings from Pope(s).Catholics and protestants have killed each other over power to rule.

The only way to do away with violence and terrorism is to do away with power and religion for they are interlinked.


Baas you have captured the reality very well.
The Church was also the State - remember the Crusades,where the Pope himuselufu called for military action and later teh Spanish Inquisition.

If you notice some of the cruelest human torture types were during the middle ages, exactly the cruelty ISIS is engaging in currently.

But in the same breath it also suggests extremist Islam is currently where Xstianity was in the middle ages?


Surely all this is irrelevant, the time mainstream Christianity was advocating violence has to be accepted as way in the past, over 500 years ago, people are different, perceptions are different, moral standards are different. We know better.

The white supremacist still advocate hate based on strong christian beliefs, but this are just outliers
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murchr
#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 2:15:10 PM
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enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
enyands wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
When we say religion is the worst invention by man don't argue but learn to live with consequences



Why haven't I ever heard of radical Christians who go around bombing people for the sake of Christianity? I'm not attacking any religion, I'm just wondering! !!


KKK



Murchir my brother KKK have a manifesto embedded with enhancing purity of "white race " not purity of Christianity Laughing out loudly. If they did that then they wont be killing the Christian blacks. I could be wrong though


After the American Civil War of 1861–1865, former Confederates and members of the Democratic Party organized the Protestant-led Ku Klux Klan (KKK) organization and began engaging in arson, beatings, destruction of property, lynching, murder, rape, tar-and-feathering, whipping and intimidation via such means as cross burning. They targeted African Americans, Jews, Catholics, and other social or ethnic minorities.

Vehemently anti-Catholic, Klan members had an explicitly Protestant Christian terrorist ideology, basing their beliefs in part on a "religious foundation" in Protestant Christianity. The goals of the KKK included, from an early time onward, an intent to "reestablish Protestant Christian values in America by any means possible", and they believed that "Jesus was the first Klansman." From 1915 onward, Klansmen conducted cross-burnings not only to intimidate targets, but also to demonstrate their respect and reverence for Jesus Christ, and the ritual of lighting crosses was steeped in Christian symbolism, including prayer and singing hymns. Within Christianity the Klan directed hostilities against Catholics. Modern Klan organizations remain associated with acts of domestic terrorism in the US.

Then there's the Lords resistance army up north in Uganda
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Swenani
#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 2:41:32 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Read history and you will realize that Christians have killed far more people in trying to spread the gospel than the rest of all religions.

I argued in a different thread that Islam is only undergoing transformation/evolution just the same way Christianity did.There was a time where Christians (crusaders) were killing anybody who was not a christian with blessings from Pope(s).Catholics and protestants have killed each other over power to rule.

The only way to do away with violence and terrorism is to do away with power and religion for they are interlinked.


Baas you have captured the reality very well.
The Church was also the State - remember the Crusades,where the Pope himuselufu called for military action and later teh Spanish Inquisition.

If you notice some of the cruelest human torture types were during the middle ages, exactly the cruelty ISIS is engaging in currently.

But in the same breath it also suggests extremist Islam is currently where Xstianity was in the middle ages?


Surely all this is irrelevant, the time mainstream Christianity was advocating violence has to be accepted as way in the past, over 500 years ago, people are different, perceptions are different, moral standards are different. We know better.

The white supremacist still advocate hate based on strong christian beliefs, but this are just outliers


Same as ISIS, Alshabaab, Al qaeda, boko haram etc
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