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BREXIT None of our Business
MaichBlack
#61 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 2:39:18 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Can someone provide assurance that the GBP wont lose ground anymore to USD??

Schupid Britons!

No one can. The situation in Britain is one no business or investment ever wants. UNPREDICTABILITY!! No one knows anything!!! Even investment bankers/advisors have written emails to their clients telling them their are pretty much on their own. When your investment banker/advisor tells you no one can predict what will happen next and the direction everything and anything will take, they are telling you pretty much ujipange!!! And in such cases kujipanga is to sell or sit on your hands if your were not holding anything - don't buy. Free advice, if you hold pounds or any pound denominated investments, ditch them ASAP!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#62 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 2:48:23 PM
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Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum??

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU.

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!!

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50?

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce?

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement?

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU.

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister.

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister??

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT?

11) Will Scotland leave the UK?

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Realtreaty
#63 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 4:34:10 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum??

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU.

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!!

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50?

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce?

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement?

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU.

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister.

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister??

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT?

11) Will Scotland leave the UK?

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!

smile smile
All those questions can be answered by "RESETTING" the equation!! What was Britain before EU came into being somewhere in 2004 if i can recall?
We know Britain is the European 'Fathy' or 'Banker'.
Reset the equation faster!!!!
Swenani
#64 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 5:03:11 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum??

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU.

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!!

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50?

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce?

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement?

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU.

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister.

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister??

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT?

11) Will Scotland leave the UK?

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!

smile smile
All those questions can be answered by "RESETTING" the equation!! What was Britain before EU came into being somewhere in 2004 if i can recall?
We know Britain is the European 'Fathy' or 'Banker'.
Reset the equation faster!!!!


Are we talking about the same EU yaani European Union?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
MaichBlack
#65 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 5:22:29 PM
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Posts: 7,452
Swenani wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum??

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU.

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!!

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50?

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce?

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement?

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU.

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister.

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister??

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT?

11) Will Scotland leave the UK?

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!

smile smile
All those questions can be answered by "RESETTING" the equation!! What was Britain before EU came into being somewhere in 2004 if i can recall?
We know Britain is the European 'Fathy' or 'Banker'.
Reset the equation faster!!!!


Are we talking about the same EU yaani European Union?

I was wondering the same @Swenani!!! Huyu anazungumzia EU gani???

Tell him EU was formed long before he was born!!! Ati 2004!!?? Ouch!!!


EU 101: Beginners Guide to the EU
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
streetwise
#66 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 5:58:32 PM
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Well well well. Did anyone fathom this mess ?????????????,

Especially the exit mongers. Did they actually have the end in mind

or they were just enjoying the ride during the campaign

Ama is a case of no pain no gain

MaichBlack
#67 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 6:39:49 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Well well well. Did anyone fathom this mess ?????????????,

Especially the exit mongers. Did they actually have the end in mind

or they were just enjoying the ride during the campaign

Ama is a case of no pain no gain


The only politician who seems to have had a plan for this eventuality is Scotland First Minister Nicola Sturgeon. She is currently the most sober and coherent politician in UK right now.

London is a mess!!! Pro Brexit fellows look clueless! It is like their work is no done. Let someone else clean the mess. They can't even agree on the next logical step (apart from getting a new PM), what kind of model the want to have, when exit negotiations should be held, time frame for all these stuff etc. etc.

They are slowly agreeing some of their campaign claims were bullcrap - like the £350m they apparently send to the EU weekly! They have suddenly remembered some of that money comes back to Britain and therefore the net outflow is much much less. They have also remembered that any savings will not necessarily be allocated to the NHS as promised and put on billboards and campaign buses but to a number of "local needs". Oh, and depending on the divorce discussion, there might be absolutely no change in the migration policy!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#68 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 6:45:19 PM
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Masomo ni muhimu!!! Statistics show that those with University Education voted for remain - they could se through the bullshit; while those who did not have university education voted for leave - they bought the bullshit!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
mnandii
#69 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 7:36:21 PM
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The FTSE 100 has been falling for several years meaning social mood had turned negative. Negative social mood portends exclusionism and that's why Britain voted to leave the Union.

It's quite easy to understand these things if you study socionomics. Without it you'll forever debate but will still lack insight into why things happen.

NB: As the NSE 20 share index continues to fall, expect CORD and JUBILEE not to agree on the Electoral issues for which they have formed a committee. Also if the market falls significantly (I expect it to do so, study my analysis on 'Elliott Wave Analysis of the NSE 20 Share Index'), then be ready for worse clashes in 2017.

If, as Elliott Wave International expects, the DOW continues to fall significantly by the time the US holds its elections (in November?), then expect the party in power (Democrats) to lose the election and give Trump (Republican) the chance to lead the US.

Socionomics is simple and easy, BUT quite profound.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
sparkly
#70 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 7:56:48 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum??

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU.

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!!

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50?

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce?

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement?

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU.

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister.

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister??

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT?

11) Will Scotland leave the UK?

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!

smile smile
All those questions can be answered by "RESETTING" the equation!! What was Britain before EU came into being somewhere in 2004 if i can recall?
We know Britain is the European 'Fathy' or 'Banker'.
Reset the equation faster!!!!


Are we talking about the same EU yaani European Union?

I was wondering the same @Swenani!!! Huyu anazungumzia EU gani???

Tell him EU was formed long before he was born!!! Ati 2004!!?? Ouch!!!


EU 101: Beginners Guide to the EU


Don't be too quick to judge. The union is sequential... Free trade area>Customs union>common market>monetary union>political federation
Life is short. Live passionately.
MaichBlack
#71 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 9:12:41 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,452
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum??

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU.

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!!

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50?

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce?

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement?

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU.

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister.

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister??

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT?

11) Will Scotland leave the UK?

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!

smile smile
All those questions can be answered by "RESETTING" the equation!! What was Britain before EU came into being somewhere in 2004 if i can recall?
We know Britain is the European 'Fathy' or 'Banker'.
Reset the equation faster!!!!


Are we talking about the same EU yaani European Union?

I was wondering the same @Swenani!!! Huyu anazungumzia EU gani???

Tell him EU was formed long before he was born!!! Ati 2004!!?? Ouch!!!


EU 101: Beginners Guide to the EU


Don't be too quick to judge. The union is sequential... Free trade area>Customs union>common market>monetary union>political federation

I am not judging. I am reading. He said ...before EU came into being...
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
enyands
#72 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 9:27:49 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum??

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU.

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!!

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50?

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce?

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement?

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU.

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister.

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister??

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT?

11) Will Scotland leave the UK?

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!

smile smile
All those questions can be answered by "RESETTING" the equation!! What was Britain before EU came into being somewhere in 2004 if i can recall?
We know Britain is the European 'Fathy' or 'Banker'.
Reset the equation faster!!!!


Are we talking about the same EU yaani European Union?

I was wondering the same @Swenani!!! Huyu anazungumzia EU gani???

Tell him EU was formed long before he was born!!! Ati 2004!!?? Ouch!!!


EU 101: Beginners Guide to the EU


Don't be too quick to judge. The union is sequential... Free trade area>Customs union>common market>monetary union>political federation

I am not judging. I am reading. He said ...before EU came into being...


Global economy has become an intertwined web and complicated . Before it was simple and workable but the more you engage the global economy the harder it becomes for you to pull out without consequences.

Realtreaty EU has always been there since forever but it has been taking gradual transformation till it was commissioned to be feasible and working in early 90's.



European Union history
Swenani
#73 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2016 1:02:07 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Can someone provide assurance that the GBP wont lose ground anymore to USD??

Schupid Britons!

No one can. The situation in Britain is one no business or investment ever wants. UNPREDICTABILITY!! No one knows anything!!! Even investment bankers/advisors have written emails to their clients telling them their are pretty much on their own. When your investment banker/advisor tells you no one can predict what will happen next and the direction everything and anything will take, they are telling you pretty much ujipange!!! And in such cases kujipanga is to sell or sit on your hands if your were not holding anything - don't buy. Free advice, if you hold pounds or any pound denominated investments, ditch them ASAP!!!


Yesterday,I had a running stomach,It closed at 1.31 against the dollar,Today it has recovered,currently at 1.33.

I will stay put!
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
ngapat
#74 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2016 1:10:24 PM
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Kenya needs cordexit and jubileexit
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#75 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2016 2:51:40 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum?? NO

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU. Cameron is out by Oct. Boris Johnson is expected to takeover as PM and activate article 50

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!! Britain wants this in Oct witht he new PM. Europe wants it done immediately so give it 1-3 months timeline

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50? EU already said No

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce? Would be counter-productive, they will par ways in an arms-length mature and professional manner

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement? Most likely whatever Norway currently has for starters

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU. 99% yes

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister. By Oct 2016

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister?? Boris Johnson, he midwifed the Brexit vote, he cannot run away from the PM post to be vacated by Cameron, if he refuses to take the position, his carear is over.

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT? No they have no way of doing that

11) Will Scotland leave the UK? No

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!


There, no more unknownssmile smile
I do believe the world of finance has factored in all this scenarios in the pricing of whatever is being traded.
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Swenani
#76 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:15:43 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum?? NO

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU. Cameron is out by Oct. Boris Johnson is expected to takeover as PM and activate article 50

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!! Britain wants this in Oct witht he new PM. Europe wants it done immediately so give it 1-3 months timeline

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50? EU already said No

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce? Would be counter-productive, they will par ways in an arms-length mature and professional manner

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement? Most likely whatever Norway currently has for starters

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU. 99% yes

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister. By Oct 2016

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister?? Boris Johnson, he midwifed the Brexit vote, he cannot run away from the PM post to be vacated by Cameron, if he refuses to take the position, his carear is over.

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT? No they have no way of doing that

11) Will Scotland leave the UK? No

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!


There, no more unknownssmile smile
I do believe the world of finance has factored in all this scenarios in the pricing of whatever is being traded.


Scotland's first minister said they have to review the possibility of having another referendum,Meanwhile, she has insisted that Scotland has to be represented on the negotiating team with EU on terms of exiting
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Realtreaty
#77 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:27:53 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Among many unknowns we have...

1) Will there be another referendum??

2) Who will pull the trigger and activate article 50 - officially indicating Britain wants to leave the EU.

3) How soon will this be done? Three months? Two years? Some Brexit proponents now claim they have up to four years!!

4) Will there be pre negotiations before invoking article 50?

5) Will the EU try to make an example of Britain or is it likely to be a friendly divorce?

6) What model will Britain get? Common market? free movement?

7) Will Britain join the WTO?? It was a member of WTO through EU.

8) When will they get the next Prime Minister.

9) Who will be the next Prime Minister??

10) Will Scotland block BREXIT?

11) Will Scotland leave the UK?

Etc.

Not a nice environment to have you money tied up!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
In actual sense what Britain did was "Putting their index fingers in their ass and smelling it" Now they know what they really are , why try to show them what they are and what they will live to be?d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
ARAP CHARLES
#78 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 5:44:06 AM
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Property.. Banks.. shares fall... Kenya are we ready also. looking for links...
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Realtreaty
#79 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:44:56 AM
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In other words...;
The European Union (EU) is a politico-economic union of 28 member states that are located primarily in Europe. It has an area of 4,324,782 km2 (1,669,808 sq mi), and an estimated population of over 508 million. The EU has developed an internal single market through a standardised system of laws that apply in all member states. EU policies aim to ensure the free movement of people, goods, services, and capital within the internal market,[12] enact legislation in justice and home affairs, and maintain common policies on trade,[13] agriculture,[14] fisheries, and regional development.[15] Within the Schengen Area, passport controls have been abolished.[16] A monetary union was established in 1999 and came into full force in 2002, and is composed of 19 EU member states which use the euro currency.

The EU operates through a hybrid system of supranational and intergovernmental decision-making.[17][18] The seven principal decision-making bodies—known as the institutions of the European Union—are the European Council, the Council of the European Union, the European Parliament, the European Commission, the Court of Justice of the European Union, the European Central Bank, and the European Court of Auditors.

The EU traces its origins from the European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC) and the European Economic Community (EEC), formed by the Inner Six countries in 1951 and 1958, respectively. The community and its successors have grown in size by the accession of new member states and in power by the addition of policy areas to its remit. The Maastricht Treaty established the European Union in 1993 and introduced European citizenship.[19] The latest major amendment to the constitutional basis of the EU, the Treaty of Lisbon, came into force in 2009. On 23 June 2016, the United Kingdom voted by referendum to leave the EU.[20]
Ericsson
#80 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 6:29:35 AM
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UK voted for what they saw as beneficial to their country. Majority of the media stations are focussing too much on t the negative aspects of how UK will suffer instead of looking at also the benefits they will derive like ability to chart their own policy without intereference, control of the number of immigrants
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