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Lolest! wrote:Fullykenyan wrote:Mutahi Ngunyi likes taking credit for what is common sense. The so called hypothesis to counter tyranny of numbers has been in the lips of many in the last 2 or so years. He just wants to front himself as mr Intellectual. He is actually an intellectual conman. It is the Intelligence unit under Boinnet that came up with the tyranny of numbers and not mutahi ngunyi although he takes lots of credit for it. It is only in Africa, people like Mutahi Ngunyi can flourish. Conman to the core A document circulating weeks before Mutahi's tyranny had the prediction of a Jubilee win based on the thought line of tyranny. Even hapa Wazua, @A4 architect had posted similar predictions. Hakutumia tu jina tyranny! But no, I won't blame Mutahi. People just wait for what's trending. first i read about it including detailed breakdowns was from an infamously bigoted fella called RV Pundit on the forum Nipate.com months maybe even years before Mutahi Ngunyi. @A4architect was a member of Nipate.com and could have picked the stuff from there. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Lolest! wrote:Gathige wrote:Lolest! wrote:I agree with him that we need to rethink inclusivity. A one term Presidency would be great with each region getting one chance, then the next. Tunaanza Coast. No repeat for 1 tribe in 40 years
Unity Merry -Go-Round presidency won't work. democracy, based on simple numbers is not working hata Kuria amekubali hayo Rotation of presidency would not make sense at all. Presidency should be a competitive thing, where the best candidate leads. I would suggest like this, instead of using absolute numbers to determine a president, let us use weighted average per region. This would make the system fair, that Omondi, Kalekye, Abdulla and even Ole tipis would grow up knowing they have a chance of occupying the house on the hill. The system we have is a recipe for disaster
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Nyinyi potezeni wakati hapa na rotational presidency tu! One man - One vote! it's your onus to convince people not for people to be slightly less when it comes to voting. One man - One vote. I didn't chose where I should be born - why then should you have a formula to discriminate on me because of where the accident of birth placed me? At the end of the day - I make my choice... not "we". I go into a booth alone. not "we". Convince "me" not "us". Me!!! ukishindwa na hiyo - kaa nyumbani. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Fullykenyan wrote:Lolest! wrote:Gathige wrote:Lolest! wrote:I agree with him that we need to rethink inclusivity. A one term Presidency would be great with each region getting one chance, then the next. Tunaanza Coast. No repeat for 1 tribe in 40 years
Unity Merry -Go-Round presidency won't work. democracy, based on simple numbers is not working hata Kuria amekubali hayo Rotation of presidency would not make sense at all. Presidency should be a competitive thing, where the best candidate leads. I would suggest like this, instead of using absolute numbers to determine a president, let us use weighted average per region. This would make the system fair, that Omondi, Kalekye, Abdulla and even Ole tipis would grow up knowing they have a chance of occupying the house on the hill. The system we have is a recipe for disaster The big tribes can still conspire to always have one of their own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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masukuma wrote:Nyinyi potezeni wakati hapa na rotational presidency tu! One man - One vote! it's your onus to convince people not for people to be slightly less when it comes to voting. One man - One vote. I didn't chose where I should be born - why then should you have a formula to discriminate on me because of where the accident of birth placed me? At the end of the day - I make my choice... not "we". I go into a booth alone. not "we". Convince "me" not "us". Me!!! ukishindwa na hiyo - kaa nyumbani. You didn't choose but when other people in an ethnically charged country start thinking some communities are getting the big seat too often...hakutakuwa na amani
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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masukuma wrote:Nyinyi potezeni wakati hapa na rotational presidency tu! One man - One vote! it's your onus to convince people not for people to be slightly less when it comes to voting. One man - One vote. I didn't chose where I should be born - why then should you have a formula to discriminate on me because of where the accident of birth placed me? At the end of the day - I make my choice... not "we". I go into a booth alone. not "we". Convince "me" not "us". Me!!! ukishindwa na hiyo - kaa nyumbani. Kabisa, I for one was for the rotational presidency due to our politics based on ethnicity But I have realized that ethnicity based politics will be dead in a few election cycles once our cross breed kids/grand kids start voting. I believe tyranny of numbers will be an untenable strategy in 2022/ If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Lolest! wrote:Fullykenyan wrote:Lolest! wrote:Gathige wrote:Lolest! wrote:I agree with him that we need to rethink inclusivity. A one term Presidency would be great with each region getting one chance, then the next. Tunaanza Coast. No repeat for 1 tribe in 40 years
Unity Merry -Go-Round presidency won't work. democracy, based on simple numbers is not working hata Kuria amekubali hayo Rotation of presidency would not make sense at all. Presidency should be a competitive thing, where the best candidate leads. I would suggest like this, instead of using absolute numbers to determine a president, let us use weighted average per region. This would make the system fair, that Omondi, Kalekye, Abdulla and even Ole tipis would grow up knowing they have a chance of occupying the house on the hill. The system we have is a recipe for disaster The big tribes can still conspire to always have one of their own In Germany, you can win an election in an area but still fail to represent that area in parliament. In that case,they end up having losers taking up that seat in parliament.It is a fair system meant to make sure the Nazi party will never come back again
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:masukuma wrote:Nyinyi potezeni wakati hapa na rotational presidency tu! One man - One vote! it's your onus to convince people not for people to be slightly less when it comes to voting. One man - One vote. I didn't chose where I should be born - why then should you have a formula to discriminate on me because of where the accident of birth placed me? At the end of the day - I make my choice... not "we". I go into a booth alone. not "we". Convince "me" not "us". Me!!! ukishindwa na hiyo - kaa nyumbani. Kabisa, I for one was for the rotational presidency due to our politics based on ethnicity But I have realized that ethnicity based politics will be dead in a few election cycles once our cross breed kids/grand kids start voting. I believe tyranny of numbers will be an untenable strategy in 2022/ My kids are 0.5 Kikuyu* and 0.5 Luhya*. The Kikuyu* in that relation is actually 7/8 Kikuyu with 1/8 Kamba. My wife is 0.5 Luhya and 0.5 Kisii. So my kids are actually 0.25 Luhya, 0.25 Kisii, 0.4375 Kikuyu, 0.0625 Kamba.... AND THAT IS WHAT WE KNOW! So ni"M"? tuwache ujinga... No one is as pure as they think they are! So wato wangu watakuwa wakiRun like who if they are interested? So will they not be able to "stand" because Uhuru Kenyatta a person they don't know "stood"? hii yote ni ujinga! how are they related to Kenyatta or Kibaki? Coz they fill a field written "Ethnicity" in some random form occasionally using the same qualifier? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Lolest! wrote:Fullykenyan wrote:Lolest! wrote:Gathige wrote:Lolest! wrote:I agree with him that we need to rethink inclusivity. A one term Presidency would be great with each region getting one chance, then the next. Tunaanza Coast. No repeat for 1 tribe in 40 years
Unity Merry -Go-Round presidency won't work. democracy, based on simple numbers is not working hata Kuria amekubali hayo Rotation of presidency would not make sense at all. Presidency should be a competitive thing, where the best candidate leads. I would suggest like this, instead of using absolute numbers to determine a president, let us use weighted average per region. This would make the system fair, that Omondi, Kalekye, Abdulla and even Ole tipis would grow up knowing they have a chance of occupying the house on the hill. The system we have is a recipe for disaster The big tribes can still conspire to always have one of their own People belonging to "tribes" will be a minority in a few years time. How will this rotation work.We will have people like @Masukuma's kids who will run during Luhya's time as well as during Kikuyu's time. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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One man, one vote ..... i support and looking forward to 2022 majaliwa  Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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