wazua Wed, Jun 17, 2026
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In

5 Pages<1234>»
For Kiashes in the UK....
Options
Previous Topic · Next Topic
enyands
#11 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 12:33:10 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
hardwood wrote:
enyands wrote:
Tara wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Whether Britain leaves or not or Donald Trump is elected on not, there is a fundamental shift in sentiment in both America and Britain that will have far reaching consequences in the future for all immigrants and immigration policies. It is now clear that there is a significant portion of Americans and Britons who are deeply dissatisfied with their countries immigration policies and these countries being democracies these sentiments will be expressed in change of policy going forward. Its interesting how when you are in Kenya you think getting a UK or US Visa is too hard but the Americans and Britons seeing the flood of immigrants to their countries think getting visas is too easy.


What is happening is a fear of the inevitable. America is no longer as white as many would like it to be...its becoming more of a brown country with an explosion of Indians coming in because of the nature of jobs. Most white americans feel disenfranchised because these immigrants hold the moneyed jobs while traditional jobs go away. The reality will sink in.


It's becoming brown because of Mexicans and others from South and Central America. While Chuti's are many they are not being blames for the browning yet.


And that's the anger that drives trump supporters.he knows it that they are scared and that's why they are angry. Watching TV I saw one Mexican family having 4 kids running around , one on the supermarket carts and the other growing on her belly.so compare with a white family who most only have one kid or non and they tell you they chose to remain childless. What will happen in 20 yrs if this trend persists ?

This is the anger driving trump supporters.Fact is there is nothing they can do about it .it's a train that's moving and nothing can stop it unless they gas chamber all immigrants .This year elections huko America will be interesting


You are wrong. There is something they can do. And it's only Trump who has the answer. Even us here in Kenya we are closing Daadab and kicking refugees/immigrants out. Kenya for Kenyans. America for Americans. You know things are thick when you have a luo as the american president. But they shall overcome They will get their country back. #VoteTrump.



Will you kick naturally born Mexican American citizens? Lol .you making me laugh hard hardwood. In my example I said I watched undocumented Mexican immigrant with 5 kids and one in belly .18 years from now they repeat the same cycle and they will never vote Republican no matter what , meanwhile the Caucasian aren't growing that much...that's the train I'm talking of. ...
Unless Caucasian start reproducing like rats then they will be even ..but oppression with Donald Trump rhetoric statements won't work I'm sorry.so the only option he has is to kick them out and build a wall.This is what is feeding the anger and fury with the Caucasians.


Meanwhile just read supreme Court decision on immigration ...no comments

Refugees are kicked out because of security concerns in kenya and also a ray of peace in their country.on the other side the Mexicans are hardworking. They fix roofs, wash toilets ,do maid jobs,all the dirty work Caucasian don't like doing .so comparing the two (Mexicans and somalis) is comparing Martin Luther and Adolf Hitler .

Since I don't know much about American politics like you do I'll just leave it there .let's talk after November polls
#VoteHillary
Back to top
  | | Edit by user: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:43 AM | Reason: Not specified
harrydre
#12 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 12:11:12 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
hardwood wrote:
enyands wrote:
Tara wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Whether Britain leaves or not or Donald Trump is elected on not, there is a fundamental shift in sentiment in both America and Britain that will have far reaching consequences in the future for all immigrants and immigration policies. It is now clear that there is a significant portion of Americans and Britons who are deeply dissatisfied with their countries immigration policies and these countries being democracies these sentiments will be expressed in change of policy going forward. Its interesting how when you are in Kenya you think getting a UK or US Visa is too hard but the Americans and Britons seeing the flood of immigrants to their countries think getting visas is too easy.


What is happening is a fear of the inevitable. America is no longer as white as many would like it to be...its becoming more of a brown country with an explosion of Indians coming in because of the nature of jobs. Most white americans feel disenfranchised because these immigrants hold the moneyed jobs while traditional jobs go away. The reality will sink in.


It's becoming brown because of Mexicans and others from South and Central America. While Chuti's are many they are not being blames for the browning yet.


And that's the anger that drives trump supporters.he knows it that they are scared and that's why they are angry. Watching TV I saw one Mexican family having 4 kids running around , one on the supermarket carts and the other growing on her belly.so compare with a white family who most only have one kid or non and they tell you they chose to remain childless. What will happen in 20 yrs if this trend persists ?

This is the anger driving trump supporters.Fact is there is nothing they can do about it .it's a train that's moving and nothing can stop it unless they gas chamber all immigrants .This year elections huko America will be interesting


You are wrong. There is something they can do. And it's only Trump who has the answer. Even us here in Kenya we are closing Daadab and kicking refugees/immigrants out. Kenya for Kenyans. America for Americans. You know things are thick when you have a luo as the american president. But they shall overcome They will get their country back. #VoteTrump.


Which ones? America is land of immigrants, the only original Americans are the native Indians who are now very few (thousands) left.

Back to BREXIT what happens to kina Wanyama now?
i.am.back!!!!
Back to top
  |
Kratos
#13 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 12:59:58 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 1,694
hardwood wrote:
You are wrong. There is something they can do. And it's only Trump who has the answer. Even us here in Kenya we are closing Daadab and kicking refugees/immigrants out. Kenya for Kenyans. America for Americans. You know things are thick when you have a luo as the american president. But they shall overcome They will get their country back. #VoteTrump.


If Trumps answer is to kick out undesirables then things are not so rosy. In this Thread : "This is wrong and must be condemned"you point out that some of your relatives are in the Rift Valley and it seems they are not "natives". Simple question, would it be ok with you if kaleos want to kick out all immigrants and shut their imaginary doors to make kaleo land great again? Because that's immigration in a small scale.

Also refugees and immigrants are not really the same thing. One is driven out of their home by brute force while the other makes a conscious decision to move to "greener pastures".

By the way who is Kenyan enough to you?

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Back to top
  |
Swenani
#14 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 1:03:25 PM
Rank: User

Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
Kratos wrote:
hardwood wrote:
You are wrong. There is something they can do. And it's only Trump who has the answer. Even us here in Kenya we are closing Daadab and kicking refugees/immigrants out. Kenya for Kenyans. America for Americans. You know things are thick when you have a luo as the american president. But they shall overcome They will get their country back. #VoteTrump.


If Trumps answer is to kick out undesirables then things are not so rosy. In this Thread : "This is wrong and must be condemned"you point out that some of your relatives are in the Rift Valley and it seems they are not "natives". Simple question, would it be ok with you if kaleos want to kick out all immigrants and shut their imaginary doors to make kaleo land great again? Because that's immigration in a small scale.

Also refugees and immigrants are not really the same thing. One is driven out of their home by brute force while the other makes a conscious decision to move to "greener pastures".

By the way who is Kenyan enough to you?


Is it also okay for Kenya to kick out refugees?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Back to top
WWW
  |
Swenani
#15 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 1:05:19 PM
Rank: User

Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
Ngalaka wrote:
Wazuans in the US thought Jeb Bush was going to win the Republican nomination but he ended up amongst the first to drop out of the primaries.

Your analysis might just be as good as theirs.
sometimes biases get the better of us sublimally in our analysis.
My take - Britain will stay in EU.

If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Back to top
WWW
  |
Swenani
#16 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 1:14:07 PM
Rank: User

Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
Kratos wrote:
hardwood wrote:
You are wrong. There is something they can do. And it's only Trump who has the answer. Even us here in Kenya we are closing Daadab and kicking refugees/immigrants out. Kenya for Kenyans. America for Americans. You know things are thick when you have a luo as the american president. But they shall overcome They will get their country back. #VoteTrump.


If Trumps answer is to kick out undesirables then things are not so rosy. In this Thread : "This is wrong and must be condemned"you point out that some of your relatives are in the Rift Valley and it seems they are not "natives". Simple question, would it be ok with you if kaleos want to kick out all immigrants and shut their imaginary doors to make kaleo land great again? Because that's immigration in a small scale.

Also refugees and immigrants are not really the same thing. One is driven out of their home by brute force while the other makes a conscious decision to move to "greener pastures".

By the way who is Kenyan enough to you?

They are all the same

Immigrants are economic refugees who are driven out of their home by brute economic forces
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Back to top
WWW
  |
Impunity
#17 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 1:14:42 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,335
Location: Masada
enyands wrote:
hardwood wrote:
enyands wrote:
Tara wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Whether Britain leaves or not or Donald Trump is elected on not, there is a fundamental shift in sentiment in both America and Britain that will have far reaching consequences in the future for all immigrants and immigration policies. It is now clear that there is a significant portion of Americans and Britons who are deeply dissatisfied with their countries immigration policies and these countries being democracies these sentiments will be expressed in change of policy going forward. Its interesting how when you are in Kenya you think getting a UK or US Visa is too hard but the Americans and Britons seeing the flood of immigrants to their countries think getting visas is too easy.


What is happening is a fear of the inevitable. America is no longer as white as many would like it to be...its becoming more of a brown country with an explosion of Indians coming in because of the nature of jobs. Most white americans feel disenfranchised because these immigrants hold the moneyed jobs while traditional jobs go away. The reality will sink in.


It's becoming brown because of Mexicans and others from South and Central America. While Chuti's are many they are not being blames for the browning yet.


And that's the anger that drives trump supporters.he knows it that they are scared and that's why they are angry. Watching TV I saw one Mexican family having 4 kids running around , one on the supermarket carts and the other growing on her belly.so compare with a white family who most only have one kid or non and they tell you they chose to remain childless. What will happen in 20 yrs if this trend persists ?

This is the anger driving trump supporters.Fact is there is nothing they can do about it .it's a train that's moving and nothing can stop it unless they gas chamber all immigrants .This year elections huko America will be interesting


You are wrong. There is something they can do. And it's only Trump who has the answer. Even us here in Kenya we are closing Daadab and kicking refugees/immigrants out. Kenya for Kenyans. America for Americans. You know things are thick when you have a luo as the american president. But they shall overcome They will get their country back. #VoteTrump.



Will you kick naturally born Mexican American citizens? Lol .you making me laugh hard hardwood.



@Ouruto is kickking out naturally born Somali-Kenyans, just wonder why this is not making you laugh hard plus have a bonus hard-on.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
Back to top
  |
Kratos
#18 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 1:15:53 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 1,694
Swenani wrote:
Kratos wrote:
hardwood wrote:
You are wrong. There is something they can do. And it's only Trump who has the answer. Even us here in Kenya we are closing Daadab and kicking refugees/immigrants out. Kenya for Kenyans. America for Americans. You know things are thick when you have a luo as the american president. But they shall overcome They will get their country back. #VoteTrump.


If Trumps answer is to kick out undesirables then things are not so rosy. In this Thread : "This is wrong and must be condemned"you point out that some of your relatives are in the Rift Valley and it seems they are not "natives". Simple question, would it be ok with you if kaleos want to kick out all immigrants and shut their imaginary doors to make kaleo land great again? Because that's immigration in a small scale.

Also refugees and immigrants are not really the same thing. One is driven out of their home by brute force while the other makes a conscious decision to move to "greener pastures".

By the way who is Kenyan enough to you?


Is it also okay for Kenya to kick out refugees?


Personally i think its long overdue for the refugees to start life afresh wherever they want and be accorded assistance to do so. Somalia as a country should be assisted in repatriating those who want to go back and alternatives sought for those who do not wish to see Somalia again. One thing for sure is that people cannot live in camps indefinitely, its inhuman.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Back to top
  |
Kratos
#19 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 1:27:28 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 1,694
Swenani wrote:
Kratos wrote:
hardwood wrote:
You are wrong. There is something they can do. And it's only Trump who has the answer. Even us here in Kenya we are closing Daadab and kicking refugees/immigrants out. Kenya for Kenyans. America for Americans. You know things are thick when you have a luo as the american president. But they shall overcome They will get their country back. #VoteTrump.


If Trumps answer is to kick out undesirables then things are not so rosy. In this Thread : "This is wrong and must be condemned"you point out that some of your relatives are in the Rift Valley and it seems they are not "natives". Simple question, would it be ok with you if kaleos want to kick out all immigrants and shut their imaginary doors to make kaleo land great again? Because that's immigration in a small scale.

Also refugees and immigrants are not really the same thing. One is driven out of their home by brute force while the other makes a conscious decision to move to "greener pastures".

By the way who is Kenyan enough to you?

They are all the same

Immigrants are economic refugees who are driven out of their home by brute economic forces


When a war erupts and you and your family have to run away from your country to save your lives you cannot compare yourselves with people who despite relative peace want to change the quality of their lives by immigrating. By the way not all immigrants are middle eastern or african for that matter. An individual heading to the US from the UK as a result of a better paying job and decides to apply for citizenship is an immigrant and you definitely cant refer him as an economic refugee.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Back to top
  |
FisiLette
#20 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2016 1:28:43 PM
Rank: Hello

Joined: 6/17/2016
Posts: 4
Location: Nairobi
Kratos wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Kratos wrote:
hardwood wrote:
You are wrong. There is something they can do. And it's only Trump who has the answer. Even us here in Kenya we are closing Daadab and kicking refugees/immigrants out. Kenya for Kenyans. America for Americans. You know things are thick when you have a luo as the american president. But they shall overcome They will get their country back. #VoteTrump.


If Trumps answer is to kick out undesirables then things are not so rosy. In this Thread : "This is wrong and must be condemned"you point out that some of your relatives are in the Rift Valley and it seems they are not "natives". Simple question, would it be ok with you if kaleos want to kick out all immigrants and shut their imaginary doors to make kaleo land great again? Because that's immigration in a small scale.

Also refugees and immigrants are not really the same thing. One is driven out of their home by brute force while the other makes a conscious decision to move to "greener pastures".

By the way who is Kenyan enough to you?


Is it also okay for Kenya to kick out refugees?


Personally i think its long overdue for the refugees to start life afresh wherever they want and be accorded assistance to do so. Somalia as a country should be assisted in repatriating those who want to go back and alternatives sought for those who do not wish to see Somalia again. One thing for sure is that people cannot live in camps indefinitely, its inhuman.


It is okay for a government to protect its citizens. In Kenya, it's about security, in Tanzania, they don't want foreigners grabbing their jobs...that's perfectly in order, at least according to me.
Back to top
WWW
  |
5 Pages<1234>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Wazua Club SK Theme
Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2009, Yet Another Forum.NET
Copyright © 2026 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.