Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
|
Surprised at the silence here on this topic. Ok let me fire this up. We are looking a clssic fight between the haves and the havenots The haves want to remain in the EU, they take a long term view of benefits and are secure in their place within the EU The have nots want out, they are blaming EU membership for their regressing position in life and esp. immigrants for loss of jobs or reduction in wages. The race is too close to call which in my opinion means the stay vote will win "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
|
15% say they dont know....thats a huge number of undecided. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
|
Lakini... man can have a dark side.
The deranged man shoots a 42 yr old mother of toddlers thrice, then stabs her six times while on the ground, and when asked his name in court he can only say 'death to traitors, freedom for Britain'
Now Bernard Kenny, 77, was a true hero. The guy lounges at an armed man twice to save the female MP, ending up in hospital with his slashed gut.
Truly, so easy to divide human beings.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
|
We have always looked at a chilled out version of the Europeans since the last worldwar - the fact is: no one hates and kills like those people decide to go to the darkside. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
|
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
|
People need sovereign power over their territory. Vote OUT work to prosper
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
|
I almost Sympathize with the leave campaigners. Go to London and you will be amazed by the way the city is cosmopolitan, there are as many Chinese/Indians/blacks as there are Europeans. Breakdown the Europeans and you probably have as many polish/Russians as you have Brits. Most of the low income earning Brits feel under siege and I think just want out. The problem is that they don't understand that many of the jobs they have fixing houses/plumbing/artisans, factory line jobs cab driving are all consumed by the foreigners they so detest. I bet Trump is saying a small prayer for an exit vote, should bolster his anti immigration stance to no end. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
|
muganda wrote:Lakini... man can have a dark side.
The deranged man shoots a 42 yr old mother of toddlers thrice, then stabs her six times while on the ground, and when asked his name in court he can only say 'death to traitors, freedom for Britain'
Now Bernard Kenny, 77, was a true hero. The guy lounges at an armed man twice to save the female MP, ending up in hospital with his slashed gut.
Truly, so easy to divide human beings.
Na huku mnasema eti wajaruo wako na ujaruo mengi...what about the happenings in the World's oldest "modern" democrazy? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
|
In my view, Britain will be better out of the EU. For the British, this free movement within the EU has really strained their country when it comes to jobs, housing, healthcare, education etc, coz many within the new and less prosperous EU countries eg Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, want to head to greener pastures in the UK. And with Turkey, and funny eastern Europe countries like Macedonia planning to join the EU, the situation will only get worse. Not to mention they have had to prop weak economies like Greece via the EU.
When it comes to trade, Britain can still sign trade agreements with EU countries. Also Britain is bound to trade more with her former colonies i.e the commonwealth countries and here countries like Kenya will gain immensely.
For defense/security purposes, they are members of NATO, which is not synonymous to the EU, and will still have to cooperate with the EU countries via NATO.
When it comes to power and influence on the world stage, they are bound to have more clout unlike now when their say is diluted within the EU.
Kenya is bound to gain greatly with Brexit. Britain has traditionally been Kenya's biggest and most important trading partner and exports destination. It's also largest source of tourists. Kenyan farmers used to trade with Britain without issues until the EU came up with crazy regulations which has made it very tough particularly for Kenyan small scale horticultural exporters. We can say that our trading was going on well until the EU came in between us and our most important trading partner. We can still trade with the EU with their tough regulations and maybe sign new more friendly trade agreements with Britain. A big advantage for us is that we will be able to talk directly to Britain regarding trade without going through the EU.
Kenyans will remember that not so long ago Kenyan nurses, doctors and other professionals could easily get work in Britain and move over there before EU regulations were changed and said that member countries had to recruit from the EU member countries. Britain will also now be able to recruit top talent from the whole world since it wont be bound by those crazy EU regulations.
It's sad that Britain's influence in the world has been fading since the days of "the empire where the sun never sets" upto now when it has been swallowed by the EU, and bound by regulations made in Brussels. They can't even deport suspected terrorists and other criminals without seeking authority from the EU. It's ridiculous that British courts have in some occasions been overruled by EU court. Britain needs to regain her independence and former glory - to make Britain great again, a Great Britain.
NB: Things have become "sooo bad" in Britain that recently an "immigrant Pakistani muslim" was elected as London mayor (of course helped greatly by the huge immigrant population). The conservatives must be crying in their bedrooms every night.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
|
KulaRaha wrote:15% say they dont know....thats a huge number of undecided. Voting has started. Too close to call. 
|
|
|
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
|