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Alba wrote: Hassan Wario the sports minister is the most incompetent minister in Kenya. None other than Kipchoge Keino, Kenya's number one legend is laying the blame squarely on Wario's shoulders. NOC-K chairman Kipchoge Keino said he was not surprised by the Wada verdict and blamed the government for the mess in Kenyan athletics. “From 2015 Wada has had concerns about the Kenyan situation and others around the world. And while countries like ASA, Jamaica worked closely with the agency to clean house, Kenya did not. The Ministry of Sports did not act and they are the ones who should have led the process of cleaning house,” an emotional Keino told Daily Nation Sport.
“I reported that we were in danger way back. This ministry concerned is to blame. We should have sat down as a ministry and asked why we were having this problem. But when we asked the minister (Sports Cabinet Secretary Hassan Wario) he said we were attacking him. We never acted and now this has come.” I think the athletes are very happy after this. After all, they voted for these fellows. So obviously things are just great for them. I'm sure they shall vote for the same fellows in their next AGM and the elections. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Ms. Amina Mohamed, CS Foreign Affairs & International Trade at her best: (Pres. Uhuru was commendably decisive on the matter too, but he will dither on changing his CS Sports) 
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This lady is going places. She is the strongest cog in Uhuru's team.
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So Russia's track and field team has been banned from Rio. this is big! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:So Russia's track and field team has been banned from Rio. this is big! Wow! thats huge Russia will never stop cheating but I don't understand the whole banning a country thing, track and field is an individual sport, why not simply ban the doping athletes,  "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:So Russia's track and field team has been banned from Rio. this is big! Wow! thats huge Russia will never stop cheating but I don't understand the whole banning a country thing, track and field is an individual sport, why not simply ban the doping athletes, Because the doping involved everyone from government officials to the military to coaches and the athletes themselves. I.E the entire system. Hence the phrase systematic doping. The clean athletes (and I doubt they exist) can blame the government. Nevertheless, IOC may give them a reprieve.
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Alba wrote:
Because the doping involved everyone from government officials to the military to coaches and the athletes themselves. I.E the entire system. Hence the phrase systematic doping. The clean athletes (and I doubt they exist) can blame the government.
Nevertheless, IOC may give them a reprieve.
This is a political statement in my opinion. The Chinese and the Americans are just as guilty of what the Russians are being accused.
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chemirocha wrote:Alba wrote:
Because the doping involved everyone from government officials to the military to coaches and the athletes themselves. I.E the entire system. Hence the phrase systematic doping. The clean athletes (and I doubt they exist) can blame the government.
Nevertheless, IOC may give them a reprieve.
This is a political statement in my opinion. The Chinese and the Americans are just as guilty of what the Russians are being accused. You think the American government is involved in doping? Then why did they send Marion Jones to jail? Why was Lance Armstrong brought down by USADA?
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Alba wrote:chemirocha wrote:Alba wrote:
Because the doping involved everyone from government officials to the military to coaches and the athletes themselves. I.E the entire system. Hence the phrase systematic doping. The clean athletes (and I doubt they exist) can blame the government.
Nevertheless, IOC may give them a reprieve.
This is a political statement in my opinion. The Chinese and the Americans are just as guilty of what the Russians are being accused. You think the American government is involved in doping? Then why did they send Marion Jones to jail? Why was Lance Armstrong brought down by USADA? Marion Jones was jailed for cheque fraud and the charges against Armstrong were brought by French authorities and WADA. Read up on the Balco scandal and Tyler Hamilton's book, The Secret Race. The evidence is there that American authorities have been complicit in cases of doping.
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Karibu @chemirocha...jaribu ku-educate prof. Tumejaribu tukashindwa. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Alba wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:So Russia's track and field team has been banned from Rio. this is big! Wow! thats huge Russia will never stop cheating but I don't understand the whole banning a country thing, track and field is an individual sport, why not simply ban the doping athletes, Because the doping involved everyone from government officials to the military to coaches and the athletes themselves. I.E the entire system. Hence the phrase systematic doping. The clean athletes (and I doubt they exist) can blame the government. Nevertheless, IOC may give them a reprieve. That may be true but at end of day it's still an individual event, test each participant separately and judge them on their test results. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Alba wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:So Russia's track and field team has been banned from Rio. this is big! Wow! thats huge Russia will never stop cheating but I don't understand the whole banning a country thing, track and field is an individual sport, why not simply ban the doping athletes, Because the doping involved everyone from government officials to the military to coaches and the athletes themselves. I.E the entire system. Hence the phrase systematic doping. The clean athletes (and I doubt they exist) can blame the government. Nevertheless, IOC may give them a reprieve. That may be true but at end of day it's still an individual event, test each participant separately and judge them on their test results. the issue is that testing is not only done on the day of the event, but continuously to ensure that even during training no one gets an advantage, for russia the continuous testing is allegedly made very hard by the state thus the national ban. But at the end of the day its the west that defines what is an unfair advantage, me I think what they do in oregon is just an accepted form of doping that very few can afford.
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chemirocha wrote:
Marion Jones was jailed for cheque fraud and the charges against Armstrong were brought by French authorities and WADA.
Read up on the Balco scandal and Tyler Hamilton's book, The Secret Race.
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Please don't post half truths. Marion Jones was also sentenced for lying to federal prosecutors investigating the use of performance-enhancing substances. Read the very 1st paragraph of the article below http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/11/jones.doping/
Cheque fraud was a secondary issue that only arose because the prosecutors wanted to pressure her to admit her guilt with regard to doping. Quote:The evidence is there that American authorities have been complicit in cases of doping Yes back in the 1980s and 1990s they were complicit. Not today
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chemirocha wrote:Alba wrote:[quote=chemirocha][quote=Alba]
Marion Jones was jailed for cheque fraud and the charges against Armstrong were brought by French authorities and WADA.. French Authorities had no power over Armstrong. What eventually brought him down was when the US authorities joined in the investigation
Lance Armstrong also faced a lawsuit by the US justice department because he defrauded the United States Postal ServiceUSADA also brought a case against himAthletes generally steadfastly deny allegations until they are threatened with jail time. And only US authorities could threaten him with jail time.
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