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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:in all seriousness I thought @impunity is an accountant   Stop insulting bean counters! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Swenani wrote:Mimi nko na swali mbiri pekee yake
1. Is it true that the whole Msa-Nairobi section is elevated(485Kms)
2. if true, why is the whole section elevated unlike only elevating where there is a wildlife corridor, dense population, rivers, road crossing, valleys, hills etc?
Looks like its elevated everywhere  "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:Mimi nko na swali mbiri pekee yake
1. Is it true that the whole Msa-Nairobi section is elevated(485Kms)
2. if true, why is the whole section elevated unlike only elevating where there is a wildlife corridor, dense population, rivers, road crossing, valleys, hills etc?
Looks like its elevated everywhere I think @Swenani is asking about the bridges, kuna elevation ya bridges that is mostly where he is asking, lakini kuna elevation ingine ya mchanga or hardcore whatever they are using, I am sure the real engineers had many reasons for that, but one I know of is flooding and of course trying to keep the line as level as possible to enable greater speeds.  and 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:Mimi nko na swali mbiri pekee yake
1. Is it true that the whole Msa-Nairobi section is elevated(485Kms)
2. if true, why is the whole section elevated unlike only elevating where there is a wildlife corridor, dense population, rivers, road crossing, valleys, hills etc?
THE ENTIRE 500KM IS ELEVATED, TAKE THIS TO CBK.A few sections are elevated using the white (no pun for white elephants) concrete beams, but the rest are on a raised platform made from compacted soil/murram, as high as 10m in some sections. Elevating the entire length is very expensive (ata kama mchanga ni free) and we must get the reson why they decided on that, plus its an ugly "greatwall" sepataing two sides of a quiet countryside. Try driving on sections parallel to th SGR and you will be treated to a compacted wall on one side of your view, the entire journey until a point of deviation. Those of us who occasionaly use the LUNATIC LINE to Mombasa will agree with me that the once lavish and beautiful Savannah view is greatly obstracted. If they thought elevating it will prevent wild animals and walevi from crossing the line then they failed...they will need a nother 50 billion shillings to fence it. how do you fence off the entire line, that sounds absurd, do you have any precedence of such happening.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:Mimi nko na swali mbiri pekee yake
1. Is it true that the whole Msa-Nairobi section is elevated(485Kms)
2. if true, why is the whole section elevated unlike only elevating where there is a wildlife corridor, dense population, rivers, road crossing, valleys, hills etc?
Looks like its elevated everywhere I think @Swenani is asking about the bridges, kuna elevation ya bridges that is mostly where he is asking, lakini kuna elevation ingine ya mchanga or hardcore whatever they are using, I am sure the real engineers had many reasons for that, but one I know of is flooding and of course trying to keep the line as level as possible to enable greater speeds. and Kwingine ni flat kama hii  Lakini welder alifika Sultan akaona kwote kuko elevated. Huyo injinia ata hajui slope/gradient maana yake ni nini kwa reli. Ata reli ya kitambo inaonekana "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:Mimi nko na swali mbiri pekee yake
1. Is it true that the whole Msa-Nairobi section is elevated(485Kms)
2. if true, why is the whole section elevated unlike only elevating where there is a wildlife corridor, dense population, rivers, road crossing, valleys, hills etc?
THE ENTIRE 500KM IS ELEVATED, TAKE THIS TO CBK.A few sections are elevated using the white (no pun for white elephants) concrete beams, but the rest are on a raised platform made from compacted soil/murram, as high as 10m in some sections. Elevating the entire length is very expensive (ata kama mchanga ni free) and we must get the reson why they decided on that, plus its an ugly "greatwall" sepataing two sides of a quiet countryside. Try driving on sections parallel to th SGR and you will be treated to a compacted wall on one side of your view, the entire journey until a point of deviation. Those of us who occasionaly use the LUNATIC LINE to Mombasa will agree with me that the once lavish and beautiful Savannah view is greatly obstracted. If they thought elevating it will prevent wild animals and walevi from crossing the line then they failed...they will need a nother 50 billion shillings to fence it. how do you fence off the entire line, that sounds absurd, do you have any precedence of such happening. Most of Europe in areas inhabitted and with lots of movement of being and wild animals. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Impunity wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:Mimi nko na swali mbiri pekee yake
1. Is it true that the whole Msa-Nairobi section is elevated(485Kms)
2. if true, why is the whole section elevated unlike only elevating where there is a wildlife corridor, dense population, rivers, road crossing, valleys, hills etc?
THE ENTIRE 500KM IS ELEVATED, TAKE THIS TO CBK.A few sections are elevated using the white (no pun for white elephants) concrete beams, but the rest are on a raised platform made from compacted soil/murram, as high as 10m in some sections. Elevating the entire length is very expensive (ata kama mchanga ni free) and we must get the reson why they decided on that, plus its an ugly "greatwall" sepataing two sides of a quiet countryside. Try driving on sections parallel to th SGR and you will be treated to a compacted wall on one side of your view, the entire journey until a point of deviation. Those of us who occasionaly use the LUNATIC LINE to Mombasa will agree with me that the once lavish and beautiful Savannah view is greatly obstracted. If they thought elevating it will prevent wild animals and walevi from crossing the line then they failed...they will need a nother 50 billion shillings to fence it. how do you fence off the entire line, that sounds absurd, do you have any precedence of such happening. Most of Europe in areas inhabitted and with lots of movement of being and wild animals. wacha I first image google european rail lines in inhabited areas.  hata kenya we do not fence  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Impunity wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:Mimi nko na swali mbiri pekee yake
1. Is it true that the whole Msa-Nairobi section is elevated(485Kms)
2. if true, why is the whole section elevated unlike only elevating where there is a wildlife corridor, dense population, rivers, road crossing, valleys, hills etc?
THE ENTIRE 500KM IS ELEVATED, TAKE THIS TO CBK.A few sections are elevated using the white (no pun for white elephants) concrete beams, but the rest are on a raised platform made from compacted soil/murram, as high as 10m in some sections. Elevating the entire length is very expensive (ata kama mchanga ni free) and we must get the reson why they decided on that, plus its an ugly "greatwall" sepataing two sides of a quiet countryside. Try driving on sections parallel to th SGR and you will be treated to a compacted wall on one side of your view, the entire journey until a point of deviation. Those of us who occasionaly use the LUNATIC LINE to Mombasa will agree with me that the once lavish and beautiful Savannah view is greatly obstracted. If they thought elevating it will prevent wild animals and walevi from crossing the line then they failed...they will need a nother 50 billion shillings to fence it. how do you fence off the entire line, that sounds absurd, do you have any precedence of such happening. Most of Europe in areas inhabitted and with lots of movement of being and wild animals. wacha I first image google european rail lines in inhabited areas. hata kenya we do not fence There is a train and a tram...then we have light rail and heavy rail, then finally we have high speed train and "normal" speed train. We also have bullet trains, there is also maglev trains and adhesion trains. Google hizo terms zote kwanza then come we talk about fencing. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Maglev!!...Scaring/bombarding Wazuans with strange vocabularies and referring to google does not change one fact. Someone here is a quack (google "engineer") Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:This is rubbish, including the last 3 articles they've posted Have shared the article with a retired KR engineer and he says the article is credible though imeongezwa chumvi kidogo. Point of correction though,the Kenya's old gauge is not 1,067mm, but meter gauge. Portfolio: Sold
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