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murchr
#31 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:21:03 PM
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Alba wrote:
murchr wrote:
Alba wrote:
murchr wrote:
Love him or hate him, he nailed it in 2013 with his tyranny that's why everyone is rushing to recruit/register voters. Hahahaha! @tajiri, he has taught political science in UON and University of Leeds as a Visiting Research Fellow.


A respectable columnist should not be glorifying tribal voting. Thats why Macharia Gaitho is far more respectable in the eyes of the general public. That man is no tribal sycophant. He calls it as it is. And now we know why Ngunyi is so militant in his support for Jubilee. At first I thought it was just blind tribal allegiance. Kumbe this man is thoroughly compromised and corrupted.


Comparing mangoes to lemons. Gaitho is a jonalist which is a trade. Mutahi is a political scientist cosultant and research fellow. Respectability is a personal preference, but we are all seeing everyone scrambling to have their own tyranny of numbers of course the tribal way.


Whether someone is a journalist or a political scientist, glorifying tribal voting is wrong.


That thing called tribe is what makes Kenya whether you like it or not.

I have said it here b4. Race, tribe, caste, religion etc define man. Elsewhere, they talk of evangelists, latinos, conservatism bla bla bla
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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harrydre
#32 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:31:19 PM
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Alba
#33 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 12:56:55 AM
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murchr wrote:


That thing called tribe is what makes Kenya whether you like it or not.

I have said it here b4. Race, tribe, caste, religion etc define man. Elsewhere, they talk of evangelists, latinos, conservatism bla bla bla


Tribal voting is what makes Kenya a black hole. No problems are solved because leaders are elected based on tribe regardless of how incompetent or corrupt they are. No matter how many corruption scandals a leader presides over, he can always hide behind his tribe.
hindsight
#34 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 2:07:51 AM
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Alba wrote:
murchr wrote:


That thing called tribe is what makes Kenya whether you like it or not.

I have said it here b4. Race, tribe, caste, religion etc define man. Elsewhere, they talk of evangelists, latinos, conservatism bla bla bla


Tribal voting is what makes Kenya a black hole. No problems are solved because leaders are elected based on tribe regardless of how incompetent or corrupt they are. No matter how many corruption scandals a leader presides over, he can always hide behind his tribe.


@Alba I second you on this.There is a difference of positive use of prestige/honour/pride of who you are & your origin(tribe/heritage/culture etc) and negative use of the same origins to malign and take advantage of people ignorance.

The Kenya we have today is politically driven by the negative shallow tribal thinking.It doesn't matter which context you look at it ,this notion of "My tribe this,My people this, My community this" while referring to national appointments/ public offices /public opinion etc is one of the Cancer that is eating our country at all fronts.

There come a time when a country is greater than an individual,tribe,race,beliefs...list goes on.Untill us citizens become alive to this school of thought ,we will be under ransom for their ignorance.

No leader worth his/her position would go down this path of shallow divide and rule through tribe or any society alignment for his self preservation while bleeding animosity to the subjects he seeks to lead. This to me is the highest hypocrisy of our Kenya today.

Who will lead us out of this "cancer" .My thoughts are at pain to realize is me and you...but am not optimistic at what rate?
Live your life well, don't settle nor conform to people expectations. It's one of the best way to live life full of bliss and contentment.
tajiri
#35 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 3:10:15 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
Love him or hate him, he nailed it in 2013 with his tyranny that's why everyone is rushing to recruit/register voters. Hahahaha! @tajiri, he has taught political science in UON and University of Leeds as a Visiting Research Fellow.


So which university gave him the Professorial appointment?


Visiting Research Fellow is such a junior nondescript post not equivalent to professor. It is an equivalent of lecturer. There is a difference between lecturer and professor. Important to note that there is no record of PhD. Professor comes with brains and thought. Not plagiarism especially in the developed world. University of Leeds is very respectable and cannot have such a charlatan as professor... Pengine Mt Kenya, Inorero or Kingeero
murchr
#36 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 5:34:37 AM
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tajiri wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
Love him or hate him, he nailed it in 2013 with his tyranny that's why everyone is rushing to recruit/register voters. Hahahaha! @tajiri, he has taught political science in UON and University of Leeds as a Visiting Research Fellow.


So which university gave him the Professorial appointment?


Visiting Research Fellow is such a junior nondescript post not equivalent to professor. It is an equivalent of lecturer. There is a difference between lecturer and professor. Important to note that there is no record of PhD. Professor comes with brains and thought. Not plagiarism especially in the developed world. University of Leeds is very respectable and cannot have such a charlatan as professor... Pengine Mt Kenya, Inorero or Kingeero


Actually you know what? I did not know University of Leeds would have a research fellow in campus to offer lectures yet he could be worse than the students...But leave that to this guy Mutahi he can pull off anything.

But since you are very interested in that paper called PHD, have you heard of Dr, Savai Life is what you make it, papers are just that..

@hindsight keep dreaming. Man naturally sticks with on his own likeness. The same way yor kids come first, its an innate survival instinct. But dont worry it might take a lifetime for you to note that.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kiash
#37 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 8:14:36 AM
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Why urgue between a visiting andnot visiting professor or PHD holder and not? The difference is what one does with his degree doctorate or whatever.I compare this with people majuu who always yell there are non immigrants without papers coming to live in US or Europe ama Asia and yet they work while some citizens of these same countries are jobless, i have seen this in the hotel industry.So in that case, it does not matter whether you have the papers (that "valuable passport") or not its what you do with it.

Isnt there a story going round about The UN Habitat guy calling Nairobi planners people who do not think , yet the leader is a doctor , the question is what he has done with his doctorate.
Risasi Sufuri
#38 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 9:15:14 AM
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tajiri wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
Love him or hate him, he nailed it in 2013 with his tyranny that's why everyone is rushing to recruit/register voters. Hahahaha! @tajiri, he has taught political science in UON and University of Leeds as a Visiting Research Fellow.


So which university gave him the Professorial appointment?


Visiting Research Fellow is such a junior nondescript post not equivalent to professor. It is an equivalent of lecturer. There is a difference between lecturer and professor. Important to note that there is no record of PhD. Professor comes with brains and thought. Not plagiarism especially in the developed world. University of Leeds is very respectable and cannot have such a charlatan as professor... Pengine Mt Kenya, Inorero or Kingeero


He may be nondescript yet your political fathers are using his principle to run helter-skelter asking the tribal followers to register. So who is charlatan than the other??
hindsight
#39 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 9:56:41 AM
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murchr wrote:
tajiri wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
[quote=murchr]Love him or hate him, he nailed it in 2013 with his tyranny that's why everyone is rushing to recruit/register voters. Hahahaha! @tajiri, he has taught political science in UON and University of Leeds as a Visiting Research Fellow.


So which university gave him the Professorial appointment?


Visiting Research Fellow is such a junior nondescript post not equivalent to professor. It is an equivalent of lecturer. There is a difference between lecturer and professor. Important to note that there is no record of PhD. Professor comes with brains and thought. Not plagiarism especially in the developed world. University of Leeds is very respectable and cannot have such a charlatan as professor... Pengine Mt Kenya, Inorero or Kingeero


Actually you know what? I did not know University of Leeds would have a research fellow in campus to offer lectures yet he could be worse than the students...But leave that to this guy Mutahi he can pull off anything.

But since you are very interested in that paper called PHD, have you heard of Dr, Savai Life is what you make it, papers are just that..

@hindsight keep dreaming. Man naturally sticks with on his own likeness. The same way yor kids come first, its an innate survival instinct. But dont worry it might take a lifetime for you to note that.[/quote]

@murchr ,I may dream,but we are reminded all our dreams are valid if we make the right choices.

What your comments alludes to is that you would like the status quo to exist.Why continue retrogressively because of crowd thinking and conforming to what you know deeply is wrong.

Your school of thoughts works for sometime but when push comes to shove ,it becomes history and case studies for future leaders. You don't have to look further than our own history locally and elsewhere;

Colonialists brain washed us for sometime; however progressive Africans (Kenyatta,Dedan Kimanthi,Eliud Mathu etc),changed the status quo and Kenya attained independence earlier-post independence is a different ball game all together.

Slavery & racial discrimination in US was perpetuated for long, but the likes of Martin Luther King,Jesse Jackson..Rosa parks were agents of change.

Hence..the logic of own self preservation through your tribe/clan/region can fool people for some time but not all the time.

So that kind of thoughts (Though in reality is the norm-very sad) makes the society stagnate and mess a bright future for our kids.
Live your life well, don't settle nor conform to people expectations. It's one of the best way to live life full of bliss and contentment.
murchr
#40 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 3:10:01 PM
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hindsight wrote:
murchr wrote:
tajiri wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
[quote=murchr]Love him or hate him, he nailed it in 2013 with his tyranny that's why everyone is rushing to recruit/register voters. Hahahaha! @tajiri, he has taught political science in UON and University of Leeds as a Visiting Research Fellow.


So which university gave him the Professorial appointment?


Visiting Research Fellow is such a junior nondescript post not equivalent to professor. It is an equivalent of lecturer. There is a difference between lecturer and professor. Important to note that there is no record of PhD. Professor comes with brains and thought. Not plagiarism especially in the developed world. University of Leeds is very respectable and cannot have such a charlatan as professor... Pengine Mt Kenya, Inorero or Kingeero


Actually you know what? I did not know University of Leeds would have a research fellow in campus to offer lectures yet he could be worse than the students...But leave that to this guy Mutahi he can pull off anything.

But since you are very interested in that paper called PHD, have you heard of Dr, Savai Life is what you make it, papers are just that..

@hindsight keep dreaming. Man naturally sticks with on his own likeness. The same way yor kids come first, its an innate survival instinct. But dont worry it might take a lifetime for you to note that.[/quote]

@murchr ,I may dream,but we are reminded all our dreams are valid if we make the right choices.

What your comments alludes to is that you would like the status quo to exist.Why continue retrogressively because of crowd thinking and conforming to what you know deeply is wrong.

Your school of thoughts works for sometime but when push comes to shove ,it becomes history and case studies for future leaders. You don't have to look further than our own history locally and elsewhere;

Colonialists brain washed us for sometime; however progressive Africans (Kenyatta,Dedan Kimanthi,Eliud Mathu etc),changed the status quo and Kenya attained independence earlier-post independence is a different ball game all together.

Slavery & racial discrimination in US was perpetuated for long, but the likes of Martin Luther King,Jesse Jackson..Rosa parks were agents of change.

Hence..the logic of own self preservation through your tribe/clan/region can fool people for some time but not all the time.

So that kind of thoughts (Though in reality is the norm-very sad) makes the society stagnate and mess a bright future for our kids.


What am telling you is the "tribe" as we refer it here is there to stay and will never be wished away. We have to learn to live with it.

Now there being an existance of tribes does not mean that we should discriminate. Or slavery should exist, that is a very shallow kind of thinking. But by nature man will always protect their own. That's why when a police officer kills a black man in the US, the black activists always sprout out of their shells. When Will Smith is not nominated for an Oscar, his wife is the one who stirs the hornet's nest and tries to rally every black a$$ behind them.

Now back to Mutahi
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Swenani
#41 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 5:26:01 PM
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I do not know Waiguru-Mutahi

Quote:
I cannot defend former CS Anne Waiguru anymore. Besides, I do not know her. Our relationship was ‘clinical’ and my strict brief at NYS was to restructure, not to fight corruption cartels,” reads the statement on his Twitter handle. Lawyer Donald Kipkorir wrote on his Facebook account:

“Prof. Mutahi Ngunyi, says of Ms. Anne Waiguru, ‘I do not know that woman.’ Yet, he was her consultant for nearly three years and (was) paid millions of public money for it. Ms Anne Waiguru says of Josephine Irungu — ‘I haven’t met that woman’... Yet, Josephine was Ms. Waiguru’s hairdresser for many years and later turned business partner/proxy.
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
murchr
#42 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 5:51:29 PM
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Swenani wrote:
I do not know Waiguru-Mutahi

Quote:
I cannot defend former CS Anne Waiguru anymore. Besides, I do not know her. Our relationship was ‘clinical’ and my strict brief at NYS was to restructure, not to fight corruption cartels,” reads the statement on his Twitter handle. Lawyer Donald Kipkorir wrote on his Facebook account:

“Prof. Mutahi Ngunyi, says of Ms. Anne Waiguru, ‘I do not know that woman.’ Yet, he was her consultant for nearly three years and (was) paid millions of public money for it. Ms Anne Waiguru says of Josephine Irungu — ‘I haven’t met that woman’... Yet, Josephine was Ms. Waiguru’s hairdresser for many years and later turned business partner/proxy.


Josephine was NOT waiguru's hair dresser, but she was a hair dresser when she first landed in Nairobi. This incompetent lawyer should wait for the show down in court; Has Josephine appeared b4 EACC today?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kaka2za
#43 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2016 7:36:52 PM
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murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
I do not know Waiguru-Mutahi

Quote:
I cannot defend former CS Anne Waiguru anymore. Besides, I do not know her. Our relationship was ‘clinical’ and my strict brief at NYS was to restructure, not to fight corruption cartels,” reads the statement on his Twitter handle. Lawyer Donald Kipkorir wrote on his Facebook account:

“Prof. Mutahi Ngunyi, says of Ms. Anne Waiguru, ‘I do not know that woman.’ Yet, he was her consultant for nearly three years and (was) paid millions of public money for it. Ms Anne Waiguru says of Josephine Irungu — ‘I haven’t met that woman’... Yet, Josephine was Ms. Waiguru’s hairdresser for many years and later turned business partner/proxy.


Josephine was NOT waiguru's hair dresser, but she was a hair dresser when she first landed in Nairobi. This incompetent lawyer should wait for the show down in court; Has Josephine appeared b4 EACC today?


This is a lose-lose scenario for Kenyans. If Waiguru is quilty it is unlikely she will ever be prosecuted.If she is not quilty she has already been judged probably unfairly in the court of public opinion.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Alba
#44 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 10:47:02 PM
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The recent corruption revelations regarding Mutahi Ngunyi explain why he defends this govt with so much zeal.

He once explained on KTN that he can never criticize Uhuru Kenyatta because his father told him never to criticize an age-mate. Now that is some badly twisted logic. But he said it with such a straight face that he should've been nominated for an Oscar.

Its bad enough that the auditor found that he was overpaid by Ksh 12.5 million,.

But what is worse is that he was paid Ksh 90 million in one year to audit NYS.

Someone Please tell me how a political pundit is qualified to audit NYS.

Na hii ni Kenya yetu
murchr
#45 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:08:42 AM
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Alba wrote:
The recent corruption revelations regarding Mutahi Ngunyi explain why he defends this govt with so much zeal.

He once explained on KTN that he can never criticize Uhuru Kenyatta because his father told him never to criticize an age-mate. Now that is some badly twisted logic. But he said it with such a straight face that he should've been nominated for an Oscar.

Its bad enough that the auditor found that he was overpaid by Ksh 12.5 million,.

But what is worse is that he was paid Ksh 90 million in one year to audit NYS.

Someone Please tell me how a political pundit is qualified to audit NYS.

Na hii ni Kenya yetu


Pilau served in a kiosk using a plastic plate is about 20/-. Same Pilau served in a 3* hotel on a glass plate is about 200/-. An auditor will tell you, the 3* hotel over charged 10 times.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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