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Why doing business with Meralli is tough business!
shalishali
#11 Posted : Monday, April 19, 2010 4:51:23 PM
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Has bagged consideration for rent from the Gvt who are to rent the park for bussiness oursourcing-I hear so from sameers annual GM last friday. Where else apart sameer and sasini does Merali have his foot bigtime in NSE?so that I can tread carefully!?
UKITAFUTA UKABILA UTAKUFA BILA!
muganda
#12 Posted : Monday, April 19, 2010 5:17:14 PM
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I followed Merali blindly into Uchumi (at the behest of his son, I heard) and did not exit as fast.

But I still accord the man begrudging respect. Often he's been referred to as a deal maker using shell companies, or as a front for Moi, but in my opinion his shrewdness shows some savy. Top marks for his handling of Vivendi/Celltel transaction at the expense of MTN and in KDN.

Much in the same way Chris Kirubi is often criticised for Uchumi or Kenatco; but at the end of the day, a study in his methods shows some business acumen - evidenced by moves in International House, Hacco, DHL, Centum.

So @sparkly is right on the money. I don't have to buy 100% into their principles, but you've got to be tough to get the better of them.
Jaguar
#13 Posted : Monday, April 19, 2010 5:44:33 PM
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don't hate the player, hate the game
subaru
#14 Posted : Monday, April 19, 2010 6:19:18 PM
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@ guru ati yuko na crystal ball ? anyway tuff businessman
VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Monday, April 19, 2010 9:05:28 PM
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Jameni: Seriously, u guys act like thieving is OK as long as you are not caught...

Sameer aka Firestone: merali used his moi connections (I am sure moi got a cut or owns part of the 'parent') to buy Firestone shareholding from ICDC (not ICDCIC) at 5/- then turned around & sold the shares at 35.50. One of the major buyers? NSSF (then completely controlled by GoK). In a non-corrupt Kenya, ICDC could have sold the shares DIRECTLY to wananchi.

Eveready: Something similar to Firestone but less egregious. Lakini, in this case, the wananchi should have read the prospectus. At least GoK did not lose much here.

KenCell: merali was the favored 'local' partner to Vivendi. There were only 2 licenses given. Safaricom was KPTC. The other to KenCell. moi & his cronies had shares in both firms. Mobitelea (Safaricom) + merali (KenCell). Vivendi paid the $55mn (not merali) for the license. It was not an auction i.e. the highest bidder wins.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the sage
#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:11:48 AM
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@VVS, I agree, you can't comparee Merali to Buffet. Romour has it that the sudden surge in both Sameer and Sasini is not based on fundmentals, even the dividend share payout by Sameer.
The Sameer Park things is gobbling too much cash and he needs to complete it.
The story in Smart Company said that this guy s hould also have been prosecuted with Terry Davidson for insider trading.
Chandaria is more of the Buffet IMHO.
mv_ufanisi
#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:28:38 AM
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Comparing Merali to Buffett is comparing apples to oranges. Buffett has built his wealth purely on the strength of his investing acumen not through making deals with government and politicians.
Merali has thrived in our third world environment. At least he is building businesses and employing many people and paying taxes.
But I have to say the Eveready IPO was a killer for the public. The company was overpriced in the IPO. So be careful what u buy especially when the IPO hype is feverish. That's when SHELL businesses are SOLD to an unscrupulous public.
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:06:21 PM
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@sage @MV - merali is no buffett... WB has made money for his other (long-term) shareholders...

Show me how many shareholders have made money with merali????

On the other hand... if not merali... moi wud have found some other jamaa to front his interests... so I guess merali is smart(er) than I am... LOL...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Friday, November 12, 2010 5:59:50 PM
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http://www.rich.co.ke/me...%20profit%20warning.pdf

Sameer Africa expects reduced profits in 2010...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Friday, November 12, 2010 6:04:00 PM
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Also check this out from Wazua

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=124841#post124841

http://www.nation.co.ke/...n/-/12jwlt1/-/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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