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William Ruto is NOT going to be President in 2022
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Buster wrote:kaka2za wrote:I don't know who will be President in 2022. However,history has favoured opportunists in the past.Those who work too hard to get top positions in Kenya usually dont get them. True Jomo, moi, Kibaki, those are guys who worked hard and had to work around some very tricky situations, I would not call them opportunist, even kamwana considering what happened to him in 2002, though his has been a bit easy Jomo spent his time in UK doing what? Moi was Njonjo's project,Kibaki was literally dragged out of KANU by Wanjui,Karume &co and for Uhuru we all know his story. None of these was so hungry for top position. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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But what makes so many people think Ruto can't be president without the Agikuyu votes?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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washiku wrote:But what makes so many people think Ruto can't be president without the Agikuyu votes? What other community can support him apart from 70% kalenjin ,20% cushites, 10% coastal, 20% western 20% eastern ?? People don't trust him in short
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Blazin Kiuks mention the word Kiuk alot more than I do. Why don't you ask them first?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Jus Blazin wrote:Alba wrote:kaka2za wrote:
All that matters is ethnic equation. You can shout from the rooftops about values but in Kenya 'our man' is always innocent.
I know. But someone must point out accurate history whether people accept it or not. In the 1960s, Kiambu mafia demonized Oginga Odinga and convinced all kiuks that Oginga was public enemy number one. As a result all kiuks hated Oginga. In reality Oginga was demonized because he accused Kenyatta of being a land grabber. With Oginga locked up in detention and with kiuks hoodwinked about who their enemies were, the kikuyu elite proceeded to enrich themselves from public coffers and grab plum portions of land near Nairobi while the peasants were exiled to less valuable lands in Nyandarua and Nakuru. Its funny how history is repeating itself today. Today the elites like Waiguru et al are llooting the treasury with wild abandon and all kiuks are convinced that RAO is public enemy #1 Why are you high on Kyuk this, Kyuk that? Why are your posts laced with tribal connotations? Don't you realize intelligence and foolishness are not mutually exclusive?  The Onus is on you to prove him wrong.You can only tell your kids what to write and say, the rest you have no power over them. One is allowed to hold an opinion as long as this does not put others in an akward situation
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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I support kabogo on this. All he is asking is what is in it for his people for them to vote for WR. In 2012/3 WR did the same and came with similar demands and was promised and given 50% jubilee mkate and all the juicy parts of the swara e.g. ministry of finance, energy, agriculture etc. All kabogo is saying is that okuyos must be looked after well and must be assured of the deputy president position and all the lucrative ministries for them to offer their support. Just like WR and his people made similar demands and pushed ouru to the wall in 2012/13 and were rewarded. Do you expect WR to pick a non okuyo eg Ababu, Joho etc as DP and still expect okuyu support? Support is not automatic. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. The URP/TNA marriage must be cultivated. No mpangos 2017, 2022 and beyond.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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hardwood wrote:I support kabogo on this. All he is asking is what is in it for his people for them to vote for WR. In 2012/3 WR did the same and came with similar demands and was promised and given 50% jubilee mkate and all the juicy parts of the swara e.g. ministry of finance, energy, agriculture etc. All kabogo is saying is that okuyos must be looked after well and must be assured of the deputy president position and all the lucrative ministries for them to offer their support. Just like WR and his people made similar demands and pushed ouru to the wall in 2012/13 and were rewarded. Do you expect WR to pick a non okuyo eg Ababu, Joho etc as DP and still expect okuyu support? Support is not automatic. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. The URP/TNA marriage must be cultivated. No mpangos 2017, 2022 and beyond. what have "these people" gained from UK's presidency? we shouldn't vote in our people just because someone from our tribe who doesnt even know about your existence will get appointed as a cabinet secretary! Do they share their salary with you or do you get a monthly stipend because your "people" are in power? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 563 Location: Embakasi
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Swenani wrote:hardwood wrote:I support kabogo on this. All he is asking is what is in it for his people for them to vote for WR. In 2012/3 WR did the same and came with similar demands and was promised and given 50% jubilee mkate and all the juicy parts of the swara e.g. ministry of finance, energy, agriculture etc. All kabogo is saying is that okuyos must be looked after well and must be assured of the deputy president position and all the lucrative ministries for them to offer their support. Just like WR and his people made similar demands and pushed ouru to the wall in 2012/13 and were rewarded. Do you expect WR to pick a non okuyo eg Ababu, Joho etc as DP and still expect okuyu support? Support is not automatic. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. The URP/TNA marriage must be cultivated. No mpangos 2017, 2022 and beyond. what have "these people" gained from UK's presidency? we shouldn't vote in our people just because someone from our tribe our doesnt even know about your existence will get appointed as a cabinet secretary! Do they share their salary with you or do you get a monthly stipend because your "people" are in power? Preach!  In a place where thought is abandoned, freedom can become a curse.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,040 Location: GA
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Unless it was another mademoni moment yesterday in muranga then ruto is staring at a very lonely and long path towards his quest for 2022
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,241 Location: nairobi
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madollar wrote:Unless it was another mademoni moment yesterday in muranga then ruto is staring at a very lonely and long path towards his quest for 2022 Please expound
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