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enyands wrote:Realcement wrote:
Watch out for cheaper Kengen post rights , the little positive gyration is temporary it will fizzle out .
Two good reasons :-
(i) Effect Of over dilution
(ii) 2017 is election year , you already see the signal on stocks and the polity ?
Post 2017 Kengen will be superb.
You will get Kengen 5 bob or below in the near term .
"""Investors willing to participate in the rights issue but who are not shareholders can buy rights of owners who are not willing to exercise their option at the securities exchange. Non-shareholders also have an option of buying the shares that will not be taken up at the end of the rights issue period through what is known as a rump but in minimum blocks of 100,000 shares. Existing shareholders who do not participate in the offer will have their ownership diluted.""" How will you expect me to buy 100,000 shares minimum at ksh650,000 .Greed at most high level . Let even the ramp to die .I ain't paying minimum of 650,000. There are other better rewarding shares than this . With 650k I can buy kcb or even coop which is discounted and get good dividends than lock myself in kengen which has high political influence and don't know the future .If it won't all be taken up then I'll feel sorry for these guys . Who advises them anyway? 650,000 shillings minimum?? What harm will it do me to wait till when it's over on the 10/06/2016 and wait to buy my 1,000 at ksh6,500? Why should I hurry now and take a loan from shylock of 650,000 to buy ramp?? This is just common sense. I'll wait for it post ramp.i might get it cheaper and even minimum of 100 shares if I go by Realcement . That stage is geared for high net worth individuals and institutional investors  Offering my personal finance knowledge for free
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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nashx wrote:enyands wrote:Realcement wrote:
Watch out for cheaper Kengen post rights , the little positive gyration is temporary it will fizzle out .
Two good reasons :-
(i) Effect Of over dilution
(ii) 2017 is election year , you already see the signal on stocks and the polity ?
Post 2017 Kengen will be superb.
You will get Kengen 5 bob or below in the near term .
"""Investors willing to participate in the rights issue but who are not shareholders can buy rights of owners who are not willing to exercise their option at the securities exchange. Non-shareholders also have an option of buying the shares that will not be taken up at the end of the rights issue period through what is known as a rump but in minimum blocks of 100,000 shares. Existing shareholders who do not participate in the offer will have their ownership diluted.""" How will you expect me to buy 100,000 shares minimum at ksh650,000 .Greed at most high level . Let even the ramp to die .I ain't paying minimum of 650,000. There are other better rewarding shares than this . With 650k I can buy kcb or even coop which is discounted and get good dividends than lock myself in kengen which has high political influence and don't know the future .If it won't all be taken up then I'll feel sorry for these guys . Who advises them anyway? 650,000 shillings minimum?? What harm will it do me to wait till when it's over on the 10/06/2016 and wait to buy my 1,000 at ksh6,500? Why should I hurry now and take a loan from shylock of 650,000 to buy ramp?? This is just common sense. I'll wait for it post ramp.i might get it cheaper and even minimum of 100 shares if I go by Realcement . That stage is geared for high net worth individuals and institutional investors Hii ni masarau
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,344 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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In this country where monkeys and other primates are free to roam around, this is not shocking nor unexpected. However this underlies the importance of having multiple power sources for easy interchangeability. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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murchr wrote:In this country where monkeys and other primates are free to roam around, this is not shocking nor unexpected. However this underlies the importance of having multiple power sources for easy interchangeability. Come up with policies where whoever installs solar panels in their houses gets incentives and credits from the government and the same govt can buy back excess power you are producing during the day when at work to power industries. If every houses in Kenya can do that then expect no over reliance of hydro . Otherwise née innovations needed. People use kplc as a political campaign tool rather than an empowering tool.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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@murchr,VituVingiSana The problem we now have is lack of high voltage transmission lines from Olkaria geothermal plants to Nairobi which would have acted as backup when the line from eastern hydro power stations develops a problem. Even high voltage line from Olkaria to western kenya hakuna Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/21/2014 Posts: 100 Location: Ghana
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****Just to clarify****
Kengen is a good long term counter if they translate their plans to action.
My reservation of their on going rights is the price at this time. 6.55 bob for 2:1 dilution is TOO HIGH.
I will get it cheaper weeks or months after rights after dilution (Post July 10, 2016).
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/31/2007 Posts: 304
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enyands wrote:Realcement wrote:
Watch out for cheaper Kengen post rights , the little positive gyration is temporary it will fizzle out .
Two good reasons :-
(i) Effect Of over dilution
(ii) 2017 is election year , you already see the signal on stocks and the polity ?
Post 2017 Kengen will be superb.
You will get Kengen 5 bob or below in the near term .
"""Investors willing to participate in the rights issue but who are not shareholders can buy rights of owners who are not willing to exercise their option at the securities exchange. Non-shareholders also have an option of buying the shares that will not be taken up at the end of the rights issue period through what is known as a rump but in minimum blocks of 100,000 shares. Existing shareholders who do not participate in the offer will have their ownership diluted.""" How will you expect me to buy 100,000 shares minimum at ksh650,000 .Greed at most high level . Let even the ramp to die .I ain't paying minimum of 650,000. There are other better rewarding shares than this . With 650k I can buy kcb or even coop which is discounted and get good dividends than lock myself in kengen which has high political influence and don't know the future .If it won't all be taken up then I'll feel sorry for these guys . Who advises them anyway? 650,000 shillings minimum?? What harm will it do me to wait till when it's over on the 10/06/2016 and wait to buy my 1,000 at ksh6,500? Why should I hurry now and take a loan from shylock of 650,000 to buy ramp?? This is just common sense. I'll wait for it post ramp.i might get it cheaper and even minimum of 100 shares if I go by Realcement . They didn't have you in mind when they came up with this..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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moneydust wrote:enyands wrote:Realcement wrote:
Watch out for cheaper Kengen post rights , the little positive gyration is temporary it will fizzle out .
Two good reasons :-
(i) Effect Of over dilution
(ii) 2017 is election year , you already see the signal on stocks and the polity ?
Post 2017 Kengen will be superb.
You will get Kengen 5 bob or below in the near term .
"""Investors willing to participate in the rights issue but who are not shareholders can buy rights of owners who are not willing to exercise their option at the securities exchange. Non-shareholders also have an option of buying the shares that will not be taken up at the end of the rights issue period through what is known as a rump but in minimum blocks of 100,000 shares. Existing shareholders who do not participate in the offer will have their ownership diluted.""" How will you expect me to buy 100,000 shares minimum at ksh650,000 .Greed at most high level . Let even the ramp to die .I ain't paying minimum of 650,000. There are other better rewarding shares than this . With 650k I can buy kcb or even coop which is discounted and get good dividends than lock myself in kengen which has high political influence and don't know the future .If it won't all be taken up then I'll feel sorry for these guys . Who advises them anyway? 650,000 shillings minimum?? What harm will it do me to wait till when it's over on the 10/06/2016 and wait to buy my 1,000 at ksh6,500? Why should I hurry now and take a loan from shylock of 650,000 to buy ramp?? This is just common sense. I'll wait for it post ramp.i might get it cheaper and even minimum of 100 shares if I go by Realcement . They didn't have you in mind when they came up with this.. They didn't have shareholders in mind. Even the 2:1 rights they didn't have shareholders in mind The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/21/2014 Posts: 100 Location: Ghana
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Realcement wrote:
****Just to clarify****
Kengen is a good long term counter if they translate their plans to action.
My reservation of their on going rights is the price at this time. 6.55 bob for 2:1 dilution is TOO HIGH.
I will get it cheaper weeks or months after rights after dilution (Post July 10, 2016).
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