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Taurrus wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity Higher speeds yes,load capacity not quite. In general, the narrower the gage the more the restrictions while the broader the gauge the more the capacity. Metre Gauge allows 47 Kg load per metre of rail while Standard Gauge allows 60 Kg load per metre of rail. That's why america changed their gauges from sgr to broad gauge. If thats the case then,why build a new line instead of widening the old?  The technology is different from that of 1800s. Plus the old one can/will be used interchangeably. They tried to rehabilitate but wezi wa scrap metal were always plucking making it expensive. Wacha tuone wakiiba concrete. Just a question, where would you widen it in Kibera? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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Taurrus wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity Higher speeds yes,load capacity not quite. In general, the narrower the gage the more the restrictions while the broader the gauge the more the capacity. Metre Gauge allows 47 Kg load per metre of rail while Standard Gauge allows 60 Kg load per metre of rail. That's why america changed their gauges from sgr to broad gauge. If thats the case then,why build a new line instead of widening the old? The cost of building a new track is cheaper than upgrading the existing infrastructure. If I remember correctly that was determined in the feasibility study.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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murchr wrote:Taurrus wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity Higher speeds yes,load capacity not quite. In general, the narrower the gage the more the restrictions while the broader the gauge the more the capacity. Metre Gauge allows 47 Kg load per metre of rail while Standard Gauge allows 60 Kg load per metre of rail. That's why america changed their gauges from sgr to broad gauge. If thats the case then,why build a new line instead of widening the old? The technology is different from that of 1800s. Plus the old one can/will be used interchangeably. They tried to rehabilitate but wezi wa scrap metal were always plucking making it expensive. Wacha tuone wakiiba concrete. Just a question, where would you widen it in Kibera? You know what? if we get somebody like late michuki kibera is sorted for good!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Taurrus wrote:murchr wrote:Taurrus wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity Higher speeds yes,load capacity not quite. In general, the narrower the gage the more the restrictions while the broader the gauge the more the capacity. Metre Gauge allows 47 Kg load per metre of rail while Standard Gauge allows 60 Kg load per metre of rail. That's why america changed their gauges from sgr to broad gauge. If thats the case then,why build a new line instead of widening the old? The technology is different from that of 1800s. Plus the old one can/will be used interchangeably. They tried to rehabilitate but wezi wa scrap metal were always plucking making it expensive. Wacha tuone wakiiba concrete. Just a question, where would you widen it in Kibera? You know what? if we get somebody like late michuki kibera is sorted for good! One of the biggest problems with the old line is the speed it can accommodate, too many sharp corners and slopes, in the 1800's 30-40 kph was high speed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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A decent read, clearing myths about load, speed etc. http://www.economist.com...src=scn/tw_ec/puffed_outBusiness opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:murchr wrote:Taurrus wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity Higher speeds yes,load capacity not quite. In general, the narrower the gage the more the restrictions while the broader the gauge the more the capacity. Metre Gauge allows 47 Kg load per metre of rail while Standard Gauge allows 60 Kg load per metre of rail. That's why america changed their gauges from sgr to broad gauge. If thats the case then,why build a new line instead of widening the old? The technology is different from that of 1800s. Plus the old one can/will be used interchangeably. They tried to rehabilitate but wezi wa scrap metal were always plucking making it expensive. Wacha tuone wakiiba concrete. Just a question, where would you widen it in Kibera? You know what? if we get somebody like late michuki kibera is sorted for good! One of the biggest problems with the old line is the speed it can accommodate, too many sharp corners and slopes, in the 1800's 30-40 kph was high speed. Point on!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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This is rubbish, including the last 3 articles they've posted "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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You know what? if we get somebody like late michuki kibera is sorted for good!
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How come no CS says i will copy Michuki? seems this guy is still remembered by many in Kenya today.
"Kaba gukua ngumo iture"
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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kiash wrote:You know what? if we get somebody like late michuki kibera is sorted for good!
How come no CS says i will copy Michuki? seems this guy is still remembered by many in Kenya today. "Kaba gukua ngumo iture"[/quote] Can't evev recognize one in a mat! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:This is rubbish, including the last 3 articles they've posted Have shared the article with a retired KR engineer and he says the article is credible though imeongezwa chumvi kidogo. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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