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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have feeling he echoes what many people are afraid to say out loud.
This may be true but the reason people may think in a certain way and refrain from saying it is because they know it's wrong and indecent! Just you because a thought comes to your mind does not mean it's suitable for public consumption. The problem of letting him go on as he is - is that that the decency that prevented people from this type of uncouthness will be worn out as people think "kumbe there is nothing wrong in communicating my unprocessed bias?" Very true @Masukuma. This rhetoric is what happened with Hitler Germany, Rwanda etc, before long, it moth balls into belief. My worry is not even the common mwananchi but rather his fellow leaders, they need to publicly condemn such thoughts to discourage their germination. So far, his fellow leaders seem to be toasting him behind closed doors. @obi, you may want to add spiritual leaders to that group. A clear and unequivocal condemnation from say John Njue would be enough. But the Cardinal's loyalty is first to the tribe so don't hold your breath. Story of the charcoal calling the nyungu black. What an Irony. You are condemning Kuria of being tribal but in the same paragraph you send another one to a tribal grouping based on his name. How comes Wabukala who is also a senior guy in religion not condemned Kuria?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Hypocrites ! In 2008,I remember church women ululating in Limuru when they heard of Naivasha attacks! Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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washiku wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have feeling he echoes what many people are afraid to say out loud.
This may be true but the reason people may think in a certain way and refrain from saying it is because they know it's wrong and indecent! Just you because a thought comes to your mind does not mean it's suitable for public consumption. The problem of letting him go on as he is - is that that the decency that prevented people from this type of uncouthness will be worn out as people think "kumbe there is nothing wrong in communicating my unprocessed bias?" Very true @Masukuma. This rhetoric is what happened with Hitler Germany, Rwanda etc, before long, it moth balls into belief. My worry is not even the common mwananchi but rather his fellow leaders, they need to publicly condemn such thoughts to discourage their germination. So far, his fellow leaders seem to be toasting him behind closed doors. @obi, you may want to add spiritual leaders to that group. A clear and unequivocal condemnation from say John Njue would be enough. But the Cardinal's loyalty is first to the tribe so don't hold your breath. Story of the charcoal calling the nyungu black. What an Irony. You are condemning Kuria of being tribal but in the same paragraph you send another one to a tribal grouping based on his name. How comes Wabukala who is also a senior guy in religion not condemned Kuria? Exactly, and all other church outfits or is it only John Cardinal Njue!!!! Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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kaka2za wrote:Hypocrites ! In 2008,I remember church women ululating in Limuru when they heard of Naivasha attacks! I am guessing your heart was bleeding when you heard of Kiamba - right? your heart must have been breaking after chants of "no raila - no peace" pierced the air in an attempt to subdue akina Kibaki - sio? Listen... in war and conflict, it's difficult to be objective! war forces people to pick sides and it's tragic so... let's not go there! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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washiku wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have feeling he echoes what many people are afraid to say out loud.
This may be true but the reason people may think in a certain way and refrain from saying it is because they know it's wrong and indecent! Just you because a thought comes to your mind does not mean it's suitable for public consumption. The problem of letting him go on as he is - is that that the decency that prevented people from this type of uncouthness will be worn out as people think "kumbe there is nothing wrong in communicating my unprocessed bias?" Very true @Masukuma. This rhetoric is what happened with Hitler Germany, Rwanda etc, before long, it moth balls into belief. My worry is not even the common mwananchi but rather his fellow leaders, they need to publicly condemn such thoughts to discourage their germination. So far, his fellow leaders seem to be toasting him behind closed doors. @obi, you may want to add spiritual leaders to that group. A clear and unequivocal condemnation from say John Njue would be enough. But the Cardinal's loyalty is first to the tribe so don't hold your breath. Story of the charcoal calling the nyungu black. What an Irony. You are condemning Kuria of being tribal but in the same paragraph you send another one to a tribal grouping based on his name. How comes Wabukala who is also a senior guy in religion not condemned Kuria? This being a tribal issue, it is what it is. Condemnation from Wabukhala while necessary would lack punch. Njue would be stronger. But for me, I see it as a political problem requiring political solutions. Plus, I have very little faith in religion and religious leaders. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Othelo wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have feeling he echoes what many people are afraid to say out loud.
This may be true but the reason people may think in a certain way and refrain from saying it is because they know it's wrong and indecent! Just you because a thought comes to your mind does not mean it's suitable for public consumption. The problem of letting him go on as he is - is that that the decency that prevented people from this type of uncouthness will be worn out as people think "kumbe there is nothing wrong in communicating my unprocessed bias?" Very true @Masukuma. This rhetoric is what happened with Hitler Germany, Rwanda etc, before long, it moth balls into belief. My worry is not even the common mwananchi but rather his fellow leaders, they need to publicly condemn such thoughts to discourage their germination. So far, his fellow leaders seem to be toasting him behind closed doors. @obi, you may want to add spiritual leaders to that group. A clear and unequivocal condemnation from say John Njue would be enough. But the Cardinal's loyalty is first to the tribe so don't hold your breath. That is an accusation that cannot be justified!!!!!!!!!!! History my brother @othelo, history. In the 90s, John Njue was chairman of the powerful kenya Episcopal conference currently the conference of catholic bishops. He was vocal and resolute in his criticism of moi. When the kanu sycophants started twisting a tribal angle to fight off Njue, the conference appointed Korir as their spokesman. Here is a man whose history as a fighter of justice and human rights is well documented. But when uthamaki comes home, he goes quiet. Maybe there is an explanation. Maybe you can clear the air for those of us only reading a tribal angle.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:washiku wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have feeling he echoes what many people are afraid to say out loud.
This may be true but the reason people may think in a certain way and refrain from saying it is because they know it's wrong and indecent! Just you because a thought comes to your mind does not mean it's suitable for public consumption. The problem of letting him go on as he is - is that that the decency that prevented people from this type of uncouthness will be worn out as people think "kumbe there is nothing wrong in communicating my unprocessed bias?" Very true @Masukuma. This rhetoric is what happened with Hitler Germany, Rwanda etc, before long, it moth balls into belief. My worry is not even the common mwananchi but rather his fellow leaders, they need to publicly condemn such thoughts to discourage their germination. So far, his fellow leaders seem to be toasting him behind closed doors. @obi, you may want to add spiritual leaders to that group. A clear and unequivocal condemnation from say John Njue would be enough. But the Cardinal's loyalty is first to the tribe so don't hold your breath. Story of the charcoal calling the nyungu black. What an Irony. You are condemning Kuria of being tribal but in the same paragraph you send another one to a tribal grouping based on his name. How comes Wabukala who is also a senior guy in religion not condemned Kuria? This being a tribal issue, it is what it is. Condemnation from Wabukhala while necessary would lack punch. Njue would be stronger. But for me, I see it as a political problem requiring political solutions. Plus, I have very little faith in religion and religious leaders. How would it be stronger? Actually I don't catholic faithfuls are that failthful.They are told to just to withdraw and not pour inside but they are busy buying gumboots.They are told not to do any family planning but majority of them have contraceptives.Mambo ya siasa ndio wataskiza kweli? Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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Kuria needs help not condemnation. This is a mentally sick person. work to prosper
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Who said about people who go around with open mouth instead of open minds
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/24/2013 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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dogs that bark loudly don't bite! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:dogs that bark loudly don't bite! Very sad...@Tokyo said he is a sick person that's true. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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masukuma wrote:dogs that bark loudly don't bite! Don't be too sure, he is planting that seed in someone's mind, next you will be hearing that a deranged gunman .... "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/28/2008 Posts: 2,276 Location: Kibish
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Everyone has a right to do stupid things but Moses KURIA is abusing that privilege! Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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Things are not right in this country if such utterances can be made and that person walks freely ever again. Failed state on a cliff If we continue like this, for sure a civil war will happen in Kenya in our lifetime punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Some of these sayings should be taken seriously esp after the controversial deaths of @Kabetes, Mr Kenya Bus, Bw. Makueni, George muthengi. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2010 Posts: 458
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It is amazing that the guy is a very bright fellow? update president set president = speaker where president is null
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/4/2016 Posts: 175 Location: Global
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Moses Kuria must be stopped otherwise kuna watu wataumia.This is sad coming from a supposed leader.
ION:-I heard baba tell Siaya residents while atop a sky blue plastic chair "Kama mbaya mbaya".What did he mean?Why is there no noise about that.Why is there no condemnation on the property destroyed by his goons during demos?
Or when it comes from baba and co its ok?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Junet Mohammed. Another waste. Hopefully, when Cordos storm IG's office on Thursday as they have threatened, they will be dragging along this one as an example. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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