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Kengen success
MadDoc
#321 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:15:11 PM
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enyands wrote:
Meanwhile "The KenGen share has slipped below the discounted rights issue price of Sh6.55, dealing a potential blow to the offer as it makes it more attractive for investors to buy the stock in the open market" today's BD. There was a silent dove somewhere from Western Africa that warned. I'll wait for it at 3 a share


I highly doubt the 3. 6 would be my lower limit. Most chaps avoiding dilution sold long before the rights issue.
Most of the investors left are long termers. Supply will dwindle out.
In a nutshell, Kengen will either rise or stagnate.
enyands
#322 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:28:58 PM
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sparkly wrote:
enyands wrote:
Meanwhile "The KenGen share has slipped below the discounted rights issue price of Sh6.55, dealing a potential blow to the offer as it makes it more attractive for investors to buy the stock in the open market" today's BD. There was a silent dove somewhere from Western Africa that warned. I'll wait for it at 3 a share


How much will you be investing once it hits 3 smile



Maybe shares worth 300k Laughing out loudly
sparkly
#323 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:25:23 AM
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enyands wrote:
sparkly wrote:
enyands wrote:
Meanwhile "The KenGen share has slipped below the discounted rights issue price of Sh6.55, dealing a potential blow to the offer as it makes it more attractive for investors to buy the stock in the open market" today's BD. There was a silent dove somewhere from Western Africa that warned. I'll wait for it at 3 a share


How much will you be investing once it hits 3 smile



Maybe shares worth 300k Laughing out loudly


That's cool
Life is short. Live passionately.
enyands
#324 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:47:00 AM
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sparkly wrote:
enyands wrote:
sparkly wrote:
enyands wrote:
Meanwhile "The KenGen share has slipped below the discounted rights issue price of Sh6.55, dealing a potential blow to the offer as it makes it more attractive for investors to buy the stock in the open market" today's BD. There was a silent dove somewhere from Western Africa that warned. I'll wait for it at 3 a share


How much will you be investing once it hits 3 smile



Maybe shares worth 300k Laughing out loudly


That's cool


Sparky why did you ask brother/sister
sparkly
#325 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:04:14 AM
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enyands wrote:
sparkly wrote:
enyands wrote:
sparkly wrote:
enyands wrote:
Meanwhile "The KenGen share has slipped below the discounted rights issue price of Sh6.55, dealing a potential blow to the offer as it makes it more attractive for investors to buy the stock in the open market" today's BD. There was a silent dove somewhere from Western Africa that warned. I'll wait for it at 3 a share


How much will you be investing once it hits 3 smile



Maybe shares worth 300k Laughing out loudly


That's cool


Sparky why did you ask brother/sister

We learn from each other bro
Life is short. Live passionately.
enyands
#326 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:22:43 AM
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sparkly wrote:
enyands wrote:
sparkly wrote:
enyands wrote:
sparkly wrote:
enyands wrote:
Meanwhile "The KenGen share has slipped below the discounted rights issue price of Sh6.55, dealing a potential blow to the offer as it makes it more attractive for investors to buy the stock in the open market" today's BD. There was a silent dove somewhere from Western Africa that warned. I'll wait for it at 3 a share


How much will you be investing once it hits 3 smile



Maybe shares worth 300k Laughing out loudly


That's cool


Sparky why did you ask brother/sister

We learn from each other bro


How much have you invested ? Curious though
Ericsson
#327 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:12:23 AM
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KENGEN on upward trend heading towards 6.70-7
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
citymayor
#328 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:06:04 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
KENGEN on upward trend heading towards 6.70-7


Solid demand at 6-6.50 range (position taking). I still maintain support at 6 should hold in the short term
The Emotional Dog and Its Rational Tail
Realcement
#329 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:16:31 AM
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True value of Kengen to be known after listing the rights shares.
Watch out Aug to Oct .
I still maintain 4.00 bob
Realcement
#330 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:18:28 AM
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True value of Kengen to be known after listing the rights shares.
Watch out Aug to Oct 2016.
I still maintain 4.00 bob post rights
Ebenyo
#331 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:20:08 AM
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citymayor wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KENGEN on upward trend heading towards 6.70-7


Solid demand at 6-6.50 range (position taking). I still maintain support at 6 should hold in the short term

i want to get it at 6.00 can i succeed?
Towards the goal of financial freedom
watesh
#332 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:36:01 AM
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Realcement wrote:
True value of Kengen to be known after listing the rights shares.
Watch out Aug to Oct 2016.
I still maintain 4.00 bob post rights

When the shares flood the market, things will get messy.
citymayor
#333 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:44:44 AM
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watesh wrote:
Realcement wrote:
True value of Kengen to be known after listing the rights shares.
Watch out Aug to Oct 2016.
I still maintain 4.00 bob post rights

When the shares flood the market, things will get messy.


@watesh as someone pointed out earlier the small fish will edge out themselves. I see this share going the Safaricom route, big investors taking up the positions as Wanjikus capitulate and the share may never see those levels. Let’s wait for the rights results
The Emotional Dog and Its Rational Tail
mlennyma
#334 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:40:48 PM
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watesh wrote:
Realcement wrote:
True value of Kengen to be known after listing the rights shares.
Watch out Aug to Oct 2016.
I still maintain 4.00 bob post rights

When the shares flood the market, things will get messy.

the only hope is that govt will not trade their rights soon otherwise it could even hit 3bob when rights hit the market
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
watesh
#335 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:52:31 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
watesh wrote:
Realcement wrote:
True value of Kengen to be known after listing the rights shares.
Watch out Aug to Oct 2016.
I still maintain 4.00 bob post rights

When the shares flood the market, things will get messy.

the only hope is that govt will not trade their rights soon otherwise it could even hit 3bob when rights hit the market

This govt rarely sells stock, so there wont be excessive flooding.
mlennyma
#336 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:11:49 PM
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watesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
watesh wrote:
Realcement wrote:
True value of Kengen to be known after listing the rights shares.
Watch out Aug to Oct 2016.
I still maintain 4.00 bob post rights

When the shares flood the market, things will get messy.

the only hope is that govt will not trade their rights soon otherwise it could even hit 3bob when rights hit the market

This govt rarely sells stock, so there wont be excessive flooding.

but dividends will reduce to like 20cts
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Ericsson
#337 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:27:25 PM
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@mlenyama;
Dividends for this year will most likely be 30-35 cents
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
watesh
#338 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:51:06 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
@mlenyama;
Dividends for this year will most likely be 30-35 cents

I think 20 -35 cents is the most likely range. H1 EPS was 2.58 while full year the previous year was 5.24. Earnings are likely to be kinda stagnant since there is no major electricity being injected except the new 75MW of which 50MW is done hence a scenario of EPS of near 5.1 (without factoring the dilution) in full year is likely.
The likelihood of an increase in dividend payout ratio is a 50/50 thing since they have projects to finance which are money hungry. Another thing, this is the lowest payout ratio in a long time.
2010 - 33%
2011 - 55%
2012 - 46%
2013 - 25%
2014 - 31%
2015 - 12%

So its all dependent of the immediate future projects funding which in my view are money hungry. Olkaria V 140MW targeting 2018, 80MW wind target is 2018, Olkaria VI 140MW 2019 plus other small ones.
But an increase in dividend will spike the price
Ericsson
#339 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 2:01:37 PM
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@watesh
There will be a increase in dividend in terms of the amount/payout this year
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
MadDoc
#340 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 2:19:00 PM
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watesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
watesh wrote:
Realcement wrote:
True value of Kengen to be known after listing the rights shares.
Watch out Aug to Oct 2016.
I still maintain 4.00 bob post rights

When the shares flood the market, things will get messy.

the only hope is that govt will not trade their rights soon otherwise it could even hit 3bob when rights hit the market

This govt rarely sells stock, so there wont be excessive flooding.

With 70% ownership and at current stock price they would only offload their stake to an INSTITUTIONAL investor at a premium
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