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CDS Accounts for kids.
Chaka
#11 Posted : Friday, April 09, 2010 9:21:35 AM
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@Pretty,
Wrong #,Young is in Naija.
BTW have you read the katiba document?
young
#12 Posted : Friday, April 09, 2010 2:43:25 PM
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@ALL,

I work and live in Nigeria, I have always been here (nigeria). I only invest in Nairobi Stock Exchange as a non resident foreigner and other markets overseas.

Young,
Nigeria
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
sparkly
#13 Posted : Saturday, April 10, 2010 12:58:54 PM
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@MaichBlack, general common law rules:

- A minor has no capacity to enter into contracts/ buy property. There are exceptions though - A girl between 16 and 18 may get married with parents's consent, a minor can be a partner in a business but cannot be active in running the business etc.

- The parent/guardian can run the investment account as the minor's representative or trustee.

- See a lawyer for a simple trust deed.
Life is short. Live passionately.
jikome
#14 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:08:34 PM
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@Black, I think Sparkly is on to something, as a professional in the industry, the Kids will probably rely on the parents to make judgement, and fund the account anyway .. so why not be the asset guardian till they are of age? Think about it.
sheep
#15 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 8:09:40 AM
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I have come to realize that my stocks portfolio will be left to my children if the end of the world doesn't come.I hope to leave them a sizeable fortune.
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
youcan'tstopusnow
#16 Posted : Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:10:25 PM
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Read This:

In his early teens, Jesse Livermore left home to escape a life of farming. He went to Boston and started his long career in stock trading by posting stock quotes for the Paine Webber brokerage firm.

He then began trading for himself and by the age of fifteen, he had reportedly produced gains of over $1,000, which was big money in those days. Over the next several years, he made money betting against the so-called "bucket shops," which didn't handle legitimate trades – customers bet against the house on stock price movements.

He did so well that he was banned from all of the shops in Boston, which prompted his move.

AND THIS WAS IN 1982! IN THE US. How come 128 years later in modern Kenya, a person cannot buy stocks below 18 years? We re still over a century behind developed countries.
We need to change these archaic laws.
Are you saying that a 16 year old girl/boy cannot transact shares in the NSE? CRAZY!
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
MaichBlack
#17 Posted : Monday, April 19, 2010 9:47:51 AM
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@ You can't stop a long name - I hear you! Times are changing. Kids are becoming smarter. This issue of saying a 16 year old can't trade is utter nonsense. We have kids as young as 12 in rural Kenya running successful (albeit small scale) businesses!! Ever gone to a village and met a primary school kid rearing and selling rabbits & chicken, planting and selling vegetables of all kinds in a ka-small shamba and all these while he is still attending classes at the local primary school?

Kids should be allowed to trade - maybe with some control - if their 'environment' allows them to. I have met 13 year olds who are way smarter than 20 year olds.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
jikome
#18 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:15:18 AM
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In Modern Kenya, a hundred years trailing developed nations, we still have a law that defines minors and their lack of a contractual obligation, which is what happens when a person buys/sells a security. Please see todays exposed guidelines on Child accounts.
blackcobra
#19 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:46:55 AM
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@Black.....i have worked with a stockbroker and i want to give you facts
1. If you trade using your name, when your daughter gets to 18 years and you want the account to read her name( Which is not possible), this is treated like a Private Transfer. You are the seller, your daughter s the buyer, so commission s deducted twice...... not good. You would rather sell and then buy shares for her.
2. Again it can be treated as a Transmission.... since the account s supposed to read a different name( which s not possible). In CDSC, Name and status( LI,FI LC ETC) CAN NEVER BE ALTERED!!!! since what s used to open a cdsc account is an ID number, Passport.... which are unique.... the account is yours.. PERIOD!!!!
3. What i can advice you is to buy shares and convert them to share certificates under her name... that may require swearing an affidavit and other formalities which the lawyer n cdsc will advice you.Later your daughter can open a cdsc account and immobilize her share certificates.
4. Also if your daughter has a passport, some brokers can agree to open a cdsc account using her passport. What can happen s u just invest( buying n selling) but not request to be paid.
5. The best of all is... Open a joint account with your daughter... of course your ID will be used. A joint account, both parties or 1 party can transact. SO when she gets to age, she can continue operating it as you withdraw.. after-all.... she s your daughter.

I hope ive assisted you.
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