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KCB rights issue
slykat
#21 Posted : Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:45:30 PM
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@All,

Well well, this poses a big dilemma! I am having conflicting perspectives;

1. As a long-term investor in kcb, their previous rights issue only managed to reverse capital gains made on paper! Shud have exited at 32-33! Their dividends r nothing special!
2. On the other hand, @16, it wud be an opportunity to increase holding....but but but, who says there will not be yet another rights issue to raise money to expand into, say the West African mkt - repeating the biennial dilution of the stock value?

3. Just when is the right time to slow down on expansion n reward shareholders?

I think I will exit! I am sure with billions of new shares, i can always get them sub 20 in the next 2yrs!

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guru267
#22 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:19:00 AM
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@all i dont think there is anything wrong with the rights issue as they are trying to raise their capital base so as to raise the amount of deposits they can accept from the public...

i expect the rights issue price to be at a very significant discount since they are also planning to use debt to raise the 15billion... the share capital will increase to 3.5billion shares but this is not different from equity and co-op bank who each have 3.7billion shares each..

i think those with some cheese in their pockets should take up their rights (i know i will) but if one doesnt plan to then selling is the best option since you will face massive dilution....
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guru267
#23 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:47:05 AM
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doing the math KCB will be compelled to translate this rights issue into serious profits since as per my calcualtions if one got into the stock now at 23.5bob and participated in the rights issue at 13.6bob their average buy price will be around 20bob but if KCB were to earn PBT of 9.5billion as they project this year and using a sector P/E ratio of 12.59 the price will only be 23.25 which is lower than current market price....

IMHO any short term players should be running clear of this counter....
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mkonomtupu
#24 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:54:13 AM
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I must say, very disappointed with the lack of imagination by KCB. I was expecting a mix of rights and bonds. 1.1 billion shares is going to be a hard sell in this environment. Even as a long-term investor 1.1 billion is a big dilution.
After buying the last rights at 25 I had to average down last year at 15 just to break even on the initial investment.
Even with the large balance sheet it still has a dismal performance when compared to BBK, what's the need of having a huge balance sheet when it does not deliver value to the shareholder.
I know the KCB mandarins read wazua so unless the 1st qtr results are fantastic I think I will exit for a while.
wasee
#25 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:59:02 AM
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Issuing a rights issue will cause the shares to flood the NSE hence cost of the share will come down. i was optimistic that this share was headed in the right direction but now am 50/50.
probably an exit would be the best now then return once the shares flood the market????
Wa_ithaka
#26 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:01:28 AM
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Still waiting for an answer, especially from those who held KCB in 2008.
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ProverB
#27 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:19:41 AM
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..when all is said and done...its all about the money.

share dilution loses special quality any stock would have... scarcity.. ease with which large quantities can be mopped up.. KCB will soon be the Safcom of the finance segment.

Yes it has value..but that value will be unlock-able for a while considering liquidity..

for technical purposes..volumes traded and the demand and supply factors... Equity and coop fair far much better.

Prices likely to be lowest in sector once new shares are in...

Drat!!! Got to leave.
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slykat
#28 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:41:48 AM
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@Guru

IMHO any short term players should be running clear of this counter....


INMHO even long-term players should follow suit, and re-join at 13 afresh for long-term, at least 5yrs. Those who have held KCB for long have little to show for it compared to say, Equity. So why should I expect any different in another 4 yrs?
guru267
#29 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:03:05 AM
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@skylat KCB expect earnings to pass 9billion this year and judging by that alone snd the fact that investors expect rights issue cash to be translated to profit there is not way the price can fall to 13bob...

if it does then we will have an extremely bargain stock for the picking
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slykat
#30 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:07:47 AM
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@ Guru

the fact that investors expect rights issue cash to be translated to profit there is not way the price can fall to 13bob...

...rewind to 2007...the fact that investors expected the 2008 rights issue cash to be translated to profit there was no way the price could have fallen to 16...
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