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Rwanda dumps Kenya SGR route for Tanzania
Taurrus
#1 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 9:57:13 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana
#2 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 10:18:01 PM
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sisi tuko siasa, but in honesty burundi, rwanda and uganda are better off with tz, at least huko they get stability.
Kagame knows that if the duo do not to come back to power next year that sgr thing will be dead, but sometimes we have to think really carefully at what we do, hi mambo ya the country being under political tension from one election period to the other is not good at all, and if the same people who invited world leaders to come celebrate the promulgation of our new constitution are the same people trashing the same does not send a very good message, what if suddenly we do not like those agreement we signed with our neighbors does it mean we go to the streets to get rid of the same.
Alba
#3 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 10:58:05 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
sisi tuko siasa, but in honesty burundi, rwanda and uganda are better off with tz, at least huko they get stability.
Kagame knows that if the duo do not to come back to power next year that sgr thing will be dead, but sometimes we have to think really carefully at what we do, hi mambo ya the country being under political tension from one election period to the other is not good at all, and if the same people who invited world leaders to come celebrate the promulgation of our new constitution are the same people trashing the same does not send a very good message, what if suddenly we do not like those agreement we signed with our neighbors does it mean we go to the streets to get rid of the same.


Our elections pit one tribe against another in a winner take all. There is a youtube video of UK speaking in vernacular, telling people to be proud their tribe. He is basically telling them to vote on tribal basis. All this while pretending to be interested in uniting the country. You also have kina MaDVD telling Imara United people "Shienyu ni shienyu"

Then on top of the tribal voting, you also have rigging, ballot stuffing by all candidates, lack of transparency within IEBC. Then you have people holding a swearing in ceremony at midnight. Its like smoking a cigarette near a petroleum spill.

All this mambo is what causes tension.

This mambo of voting on tribal basis only benefits the elites. Kenyans need to start thinking clearly. All our problems be it corruption, poor infrastructure, insecurity, traffic etc etc are because we vote on tribalism instead of voting on issues.

murchr
#4 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2016 11:33:33 PM
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I support UG and Rwanda, just seen the idiots are plucking the rail out. No one can stand that madness....Let them use TZ for reliability
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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harrydre
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 12:08:47 AM
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murchr wrote:
I support UG and Rwanda, just seen the idiots are plucking the rail out. No one can stand that madness....Let them use TZ for reliability


unmask these ones.
i.am.back!!!!
harrydre
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 12:14:38 AM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
sisi tuko siasa, but in honesty burundi, rwanda and uganda are better off with tz, at least huko they get stability.
Kagame knows that if the duo do not to come back to power next year that sgr thing will be dead, but sometimes we have to think really carefully at what we do, hi mambo ya the country being under political tension from one election period to the other is not good at all, and if the same people who invited world leaders to come celebrate the promulgation of our new constitution are the same people trashing the same does not send a very good message, what if suddenly we do not like those agreement we signed with our neighbors does it mean we go to the streets to get rid of the same.


The Problem with Kenya is one man.
i.am.back!!!!
newfarer
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:14:17 AM
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www.nation.co.ke/oped/Op...2/-/ccossjz/-/index.html



This is point on,

n Summary
The desperate
helter-skelter we
have been treated to
since losing the
Uganda oil-pipeline
project to Tanzania
now confirms that
Jubilee
administration has
become the victim of
its own propaganda.
Land has been
grabbed all along
the LAPPSET
corridor and the
speculators, who
are of course
powerful people, are
waiting patiently to
reap big time on
compensation.
Investors can come
to Tanzania with the
confidence that
when they encounter
the corruption and
bureaucratic
obstacles, the man
at the helm can be
relied on to deal with
it.”

punda amecheka
kiash
#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:57:37 AM
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murchr wrote:
I support UG and Rwanda, just seen the idiots are plucking the rail out. No one can stand that madness....Let them use TZ for reliability



By the way does the SGR pass through Kibera ama anywhere near Kibera? What we might hear next is Mu7 doing the Kagame in SGR and that would leave Kenya with a railway bill from Mbasa to Malaba.
masukuma
#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:11:03 AM
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Alba wrote:

Then on top of the tribal voting, you also have rigging, ballot stuffing by all candidates, lack of transparency within IEBC. Then you have people holding a swearing in ceremony at midnight. Its like smoking a cigarette near a petroleum spill.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Applause I am wondering whether to contribute or just comply with conventional story telling wisdom namely, why should I let facts stand in the way of a good story.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Ethiteri
#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:20:25 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:

Then on top of the tribal voting, you also have rigging, ballot stuffing by all candidates, lack of transparency within IEBC. Then you have people holding a swearing in ceremony at midnight. Its like smoking a cigarette near a petroleum spill.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Applause I am wondering whether to contribute or just comply with conventional story telling wisdom namely, why should I let facts stand in the way of a good story.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Man Kales I like the way you write.Let the good story flow.
kaka2za
#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:17:24 AM
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So David Ndii was right after all?

I need to read again his articles on the Jubilee grand projects.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
thuks
#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:36:44 AM
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Ethiteri wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:

Then on top of the tribal voting, you also have rigging, ballot stuffing by all candidates, lack of transparency within IEBC. Then you have people holding a swearing in ceremony at midnight. Its like smoking a cigarette near a petroleum spill.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Applause I am wondering whether to contribute or just comply with conventional story telling wisdom namely, why should I let facts stand in the way of a good story.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Man Kales I like the way you write.Let the good story flow.


Hata hizo facts ni stories tu Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I care!
thuks
#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:38:36 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
So David Ndii was right after all?

I need to read again his articles on the Jubilee grand projects.


Yes, no 'mega' project should be done at all
I care!
kysse
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:45:21 AM
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Compare DAR and MBA port stats.
MBA serves an entry port to Uganda and Rwanda
DAR serves as an entry port to Rwanda Lusaka etc

Success depends on the volumes expected to move via these ports,all linked to upcoming development projects in the region.
Politics is a big influencer.
Rwanda's success depends on the political stability of TZ and Kenya who control entry points.
Bureaucracy in Dar and MBA ports equal in measure.
If Kenya wants to make Mba attractive to investors as the port of entry let them start by weeding out bad practices magufuli style.


masukuma
#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:13:02 AM
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So... lets ask ourselves... if you were UG or Rwanda or a business man in any of those countries - who would you chose?
A) A country that offers a shorter distance but is riddled with corruption at every stop. making your cost of goods go off the roof and one which is occasionally disrupted by political noise making and railway uprooting and blocking of roads.
B) a country that offers a slightly longer distance but is stable in all meanings of the word. They don't have a history of being unpredictable and they just got a president who is making everyone who is in gava tow the line.

Let's face it! We have all been in a situation where we wanted to find a path between buildings (assume a road on the otherside). We know of a certain "worosho". Short, stinky (coz walevis piss on it). it's dirty and with jualas everywhere and some gum sniffing chokoras who's first statement is always a slow, drunken and deep voiced -
Quote:
niaje buda! leo siutoe kitu?

But we also know of a longer route around the block - lots of people. well lit (predictable) - not it going towards 7pm at night and you had a stash of cash on you - which route will you choose?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Mtu Biz
#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:19:34 AM
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That analogy!

Sadly accurate.Sad
Sola Scriptura


maka
#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:24:23 AM
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masukuma wrote:
So... lets ask ourselves... if you were UG or Rwanda or a business man in any of those countries - who would you chose?
A) A country that offers a shorter distance but is riddled with corruption at every stop. making your cost of goods go off the roof and one which is occasionally disrupted by political noise making and railway uprooting and blocking of roads.
B) a country that offers a slightly longer distance but is stable in all meanings of the word. They don't have a history of being unpredictable and they just got a president who is making everyone who is in gava tow the line.

Let's face it! We have all been in a situation where we wanted to find a path between buildings (assume a road on the otherside). We know of a certain "worosho". Short, stinky (coz walevis piss on it). it's dirty and with jualas everywhere and some gum sniffing chokoras who's first statement is always a slow, drunken and deep voiced -
Quote:
niaje buda! leo siutoe kitu?

But we also know of a longer route around the block - lots of people. well lit (predictable) - not it going towards 7pm at night and you had a stash of cash on you - which route will you choose?


Spot on...
possunt quia posse videntur
Fyatu
#18 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:34:19 AM
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harrydre wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
sisi tuko siasa, but in honesty burundi, rwanda and uganda are better off with tz, at least huko they get stability.
Kagame knows that if the duo do not to come back to power next year that sgr thing will be dead, but sometimes we have to think really carefully at what we do, hi mambo ya the country being under political tension from one election period to the other is not good at all, and if the same people who invited world leaders to come celebrate the promulgation of our new constitution are the same people trashing the same does not send a very good message, what if suddenly we do not like those agreement we signed with our neighbors does it mean we go to the streets to get rid of the same.


The Problem with Kenya is one man.


Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
maka
#19 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:40:49 AM
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Fyatu wrote:
harrydre wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
sisi tuko siasa, but in honesty burundi, rwanda and uganda are better off with tz, at least huko they get stability.
Kagame knows that if the duo do not to come back to power next year that sgr thing will be dead, but sometimes we have to think really carefully at what we do, hi mambo ya the country being under political tension from one election period to the other is not good at all, and if the same people who invited world leaders to come celebrate the promulgation of our new constitution are the same people trashing the same does not send a very good message, what if suddenly we do not like those agreement we signed with our neighbors does it mean we go to the streets to get rid of the same.


The Problem with Kenya is one man.




Yep eliminate HIM...
possunt quia posse videntur
Othelo
#20 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2016 10:39:26 AM
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maka wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
harrydre wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
sisi tuko siasa, but in honesty burundi, rwanda and uganda are better off with tz, at least huko they get stability.
Kagame knows that if the duo do not to come back to power next year that sgr thing will be dead, but sometimes we have to think really carefully at what we do, hi mambo ya the country being under political tension from one election period to the other is not good at all, and if the same people who invited world leaders to come celebrate the promulgation of our new constitution are the same people trashing the same does not send a very good message, what if suddenly we do not like those agreement we signed with our neighbors does it mean we go to the streets to get rid of the same.


The Problem with Kenya is one man.




Yep eliminate HIM...

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